4 attractive principles:

1. Have solid intent behind your actions. 2. move with a laser targeted focus on your intent. 3. be unaffected by the state frictions of the world. which will cause 4. A transparent projection of your intent into the outside world.

State frictions:

1. Distractions (particularly subconscious mind distractions that are meant to keep you in a comfort zone and in the sea of sameness that you currently exist in) You have to train the subconsciousness like it is an entity of itself. When you feel it pulling you off the path, stop and snap back to reality.

2. Social conditioning...Be unaffected by other peoples opinions. Let other people have their opinions and forget about them. Let their doubts and their prejudices roll off you like water off a duck's back. (this is where those guys fall in regards to me.)

3. Intention violation - This is when you do something that goes against your intentions. Stand by your intentions and have core values and principles that are unbreakable. 3 of mine are honor, courage, and commitment that I learned in the Corps. Remember a man who stands for nothing will fall for anything.

I always open the conversation with some form of contact. This lets me know how receptive the girl will be from the get go so I can move on quickly if she balks at me touching her. I do it in a natural way so as it's not coming off forced but part of my personality.

In my opening words I'll touch her arm when emphasizing a point, shake her hand after introducing myself, or give her a high five. Then as I talk I'll mix in light brushes on her arm or touches when emphasizing points, but not on every point I emphasize so it doesn't look forced. You can sort of feel when it's appropriate. For the scientific minded, I'll do it in 1 of every 4-5 points I make and not at a static interval but dynamically. Meaning something like point with touch, point, point, point, point with touch, point, point, point with touch, point, point, point, point, point, etc.

Depending on the intensity of IOI and if I get before I start talking I may skip this step and go directly to the more overt touching. This is to just get her comfortable with me touching her in a non romantic way.

The first few time she might react to the touches, as long as she isn't throwing you disgusted looks just ignore the reactions and she'll soon stop reacting at all. She's comfortable with the touch. This does not always happen, she might not react at all when you touch her the first time.

During this period I'm talking about superficial stuff if I'm going indirect. If I used a direct approach the first level would be skipped. Lets say I'm indirect for the purposes of trying to map this out for you all. Right now I'm getting her used to me touching her and am talking about superficial BS just vibing and making her laugh. Nothing serious. I might throw in a teasing comment here and there.

She'll say something that isn't congruent with the tone of the conversation. Something that is meant to impress me. Like what school she went to, or her job, or some hobby she might think I'll like. This is her qualifying herself to me. Some girls won't at which point I have a few methods to force a qualification out of her. When she has made a qualifying statement I give her a quick one arm side hug around the shoulder.

Then the conversation switches from BS vibing into us sharing likes dislikes and hobbies. At this stage I use more romantic touching. I'll give her a full frontal hug the next time she says something I like. I've got different tricks that lead to the hug. One is giving her another high five when she says something then holding on her hand calling it a hand hug for about 5 seconds then telling her she might as well give me a real hug. Another is just simply saying "You get a hug for that." then hugging her.

When the hug happens the next thing depends on whether it's in a club or on the streets.

In the club: I'll make sure I'm standing so that our legs are touching each other. This is where I'll use micro escalation. I'll break the hug but leave one arm behind her back and continue to talk for a few lines. Then the arm on her back wraps up to her shoulder, and continue to talk for a few lines. Then I mover my other arm to the back of her neck and I move in to talk into her ear, and continue to talk for a few lines. Next I'll switch between her ears while talking allowing our cheeks to touch, , and continue to talk for a few lines do this. Finally, I'll move in as if I'm about to kiss her then change directions at the last minute doing the cheek ear thing and continue to talk for a few lines.

Explaining the kino requires me to explain the conversation too. I hadn't realized how long this post would get before I started typing. Thanks a lot JACK!

Anyway, if she is in the optimal condition for extraction (been in the club for an hour, friends aren't around us, she answered "I don't know." To my question of what her plans where after she left the club) I'll set up an after party and escort her outside either arm in arm or holding her hand. I usually get a taxi because 1 I don't have a car (nor do I want one) and 2 in order to keep the kino going.

I'll have her rest her head on my shoulder. or put her legs over mine. While talking I'm now emphasizing points by placing my hand on the back of her neck and getting eye to eye. I'm also pinching her cheeks. I am purposely not kissing her. When we arrive at my place when I have her comfortably sitting on my couch We'll talk with her legs over mine or her head on my shoulder, and I'll do the hand behind the head thing, but this time go in for a kiss, if she turns slightly I'll change direction at the last minute and talk into her ear like I did at the club. So she won't know whether I was actually trying to go for a kiss or not. Thus no rejection occured.

I'll do this until she does not turn away, could be on the next go. If she turns her head a bunch of times before not moving then the kiss will be a quick peck because I stole it, and I'll break the tension with a line like "It's like kissing my mom." This is because this chick for some reason doesn't like kissing. But still the kiss has been accomplished you don't have to kiss her lips again the entire night, but now the door is open to everything else.

If she didn't resist the kiss at all then I make out for a few moments.

After the lips have touched now I'll kiss her neck. The base of the neck above her chest seems to be the best starting place. There is a spot there that turns women on. It's not always in the same place or on the same side. I'll kiss and suck on one side of her neck. If she is cool with kissing I'll move back to her mouth, then the other side. If she gave me hell just to get a peck I'll skip her mouth entirely and switch between the right and left side of her neck.

BTW during this process after the kiss if she resists the next step just go back to the last step and stay there for a few minutes then try the next step again. - This is the difference between rape and overcoming LMR.

Anyway, there is no set number of how many times you have to back up say at the current step, then try the next step again. It's different for each women. Some will allow you to proceed smoothly. Others will be extremely resistant. I've had women where I've spent 2 hours doing this with. I've learned to enjoy the escalation and not worry about the end result because you'll get bored, but the woman won't. It's about building her comfort levels.

Next, while distracting her with the neck triangle I'll lift her shirt up and mine and let out bellies touch. This excites women so much. This type of touch she only experiences while having sex.

I'll stay there for a few minutes.
Then I'll go down and stimulate her body by kissing her stomach. You can grab her tits at this point, but some women are very sensitive about their tits and it could kill the mood. So I usually just skip the breasts.

Next. I'll innocently stimulate her pussy by accidentally brushing it with my arm or leg a few times.

I'll mix stimulating her body with the kiss triangle.

Next my hand moves to her lower back and I pull her into me stimulating her pussy indiscriminately with my leg in the process.

Then my hand moves down her back into her pants and I play with her ass on the outside of her panties.

After a while doing that my hand goes into the panties and I play with her bare ass.

After enjoying that for a while I'll directly stimulate her pussy from behind. I'll start playing with it and fingering it from behind. This works best because it's unexpected by her, and a natural transition from where your hands already are.

If she resists I'll keep playing with her ass and then try again. If she resists 2 or 3 more times. I switch tactics and begin to dry hump her in missionary position. Then I'll pull my dick out and position it where her vaginal opening would be and I try to push my dick in through her cloths. And I continue dry humping her this way. For a while, continuing the kiss triangle.

Then I'll remove her pants. Dry hump her outside of her panties then take her panties off and put on a condom. Done.

If I get to finger her from behind I'll do that for a while and then undo her pants from the front with my other hand and finger her from the front.

After doing that for a while (btw when we get into my apartment I always put on a robe that has condoms in the pocket to make this last step smooth. You should always run to the bathroom and change cloths when you all first walk in)
I put on a condom. Done.

OK. the kino on the street is different. After the full frontal hug I'll break contact and talk with her a bit. Then I'll reach out and grab her hand in a smooth way while we're talking. Or I'll say "Let me see something. (grab her hand) I just wanted to hold your hand because I'm so romantic."

Then I'll hold her hand for 2 minutes strong. After 2 minutes of hand holding has passed I'll try to move her to an instant date. If I can't I'll go for a kiss then the number.

Say I can't get her on the instant date. After the 2 minutes of hand holding it's fine to go for a kiss without prepping her face with kino while on the street.

There are a ton of ways to do this. "The french goodbye." is a favorite of mine. You can find many examples here on this forum for k close transitions.

If I do get her on the instant date. I take her to a place where we can sit side by side.

At first I'll let are legs touch in brief instances and after she gets comfortable with that I'll keep our legs in contact.

After that I will emphasize points by grabbing her side, or placing my hand on her lower back. only for about 4-5 seconds. and not that much. 1 or 2 is really enough to move to the next level.

I'll touch a necklace she's wearing or brush something off her face.

Then I'll go for pinching her cheeks, or placing my hand behind her neck and moving in eye to eye to talk. At which point I'll try to extract her to a sex location, if that doesn't work go for the kiss, then the number.

If I have to take the number and set up another date. I'll start from a lower level of kino and build back up through the same process. If I managed to K close before the number I try to get her to come directly over to my place instead of meeting me out somewhere.

The steps at the sex location are all the same. Kiss leads to everything else.

Don’t Over Touch.

Don’t become Creepy the grabby clown … no woman is going to be into that.

As a general rule, short, fleeting touches lasting 1-2 seconds show interest and help sound the foundation for more. But you don’t have to punctuate every sentence with a knee-tap or shoulder brush; being the “overly touchy guy” triggers those giant red flags.

Touch is very important, but also must be executed with finesse.

When touching a woman, stick to the shoulders, upper arms and the upper back
area. A soft touch on any of these body parts, will send chills up a woman’s spine
and totally turn her on. Keep it light, short and DO NOT grab on like you own that shit.


Are you touching, because you read/were told that you MUST?

Because if it feels unnatural or forced she will feel that in the touch.

Women can smell doubt and fear from a mile away. They respond best to confidence
and leadership. If you doubt yourself, they are going to sense that and doubt you too.

My favorite 'touch ice breaker' is the old school high five. Who resists a high five? NOBODY!

I've noticed alot of guys on here having questions about how to escalate Kino effectively. Escalating kino is key to sexual escalation and building comfort. There is TONS of comfort building power behind touching and obviously, comfort is important in order for a girl to have sex with you. (She won't let you touch her inside if she isn't comfortable with you touching her outside.) One thing I learned from my old job... I used to sell cars. Something I started to realize that was once I started to touch people (pat them on the back or on the shoulder as I was leaving the office) saying "Let me see what I can do for you!" seemed much more buyable because it gave them the feeling that I was their FRIEND. They felt less threatened by me. It worked so damn well, I made it a habit to do every single time I was working a deal.

With women, You want touching to feel like a normal part of the relationship. NOT touching is why guys get blown out of sets or stuck into the friend zone or creep zone if you go for a kiss when you haven't even touched her at all the rest of the night. If you don't touch, it makes you seem like a pussy who is afraid to take up space. Part of this comes from the way we were raised to NOT invade people's personal space. Break the habit. Start doing it. You should honestly start touching immediately once you open a set. Being a "touchy/feely" guy will give you the "plausible deniability" so you can get away with it. Touch everyone. Not just your target. Touch guys too. It disarms them from feeling as if you are a threat. When you tell a joke or whatever... pat one of the guys on the back. It makes you seem much more friendly.

Touching girls (as cruel as this may sound...) is alot like horse training. You don't want to touch for too long at first. Nor do you want to look at where you are touching. Start off touching shoulders. Then touch elbows and hands. Once she is comfortable with you touching her hands, you can lead her to do pretty much whatever you want. You can lean back and pull her hand into you. Pulling too much creates resistance. When you start to feel the slightest resistance, throw her hand away. Make it seem weird if you were to stop touching her. DO NOT look where you are touching. Act as if each escalation is really no big deal. That is just the type of person that you are.


Escalate kino with your target through compliance tests. The classic "do a little spin" is completely useless unless you administer a compliance test of "Let me see your hand" and LEAD her through the interaction. Don't ASK for compliance by saying "Can I see your hand?" This gives her the chance to say no... Then you are fucked... And not in the good way. (This will help you establish the dominant frame and her the submissive frame that will later carry on into sex and help you push through LMR.)

Routines you can use to escalate kino are things like:

-The hand shake routine (make up a couple of hand shakes for different states in the country)
-The skin on joints routine
-Boy name/Stripper name routine (this lets you pull a girls hair VERY early in the interaction)
-The slaps game (think back to when you were a little kid)
-Thumb Wrestling (this is my personal favorite.. I've noticed quite a few girls are double jointed in their thumbs... don't be afraid to playfully cheat to win either.. this gives you the opportunity to escalate even further.
-Misinterpreting things she says as something that deserves a hug
-Body Back Writing
-Role Play Stories (another personal favorite of mine... Use role play stories to distract her and you can get away with a shit load of touching)

Here is a BIG tip to help you seem less "robotic" when escalating kino... Keep one foot in and one foot back and rest your body weight on your back leg. This way, when you go to make an escalation, you are not taking a step or two forward. You simply have to move your upper body closer. Personally, I like to put my front foot right in between the girls feet. (or off to the side of hers if she stands with her feet really close together) By doing this, I am already in her personal space but I am keeping my upper body back until I feel as if she is comfortable with it. This way, it seems much more natural to touch her.

Once she is comfortable with you touching her hands, you can then "lead" her around really wherever you want. You can kinda "pull her into you" and start touching her hips and her lower back (right above her ass.. Stay away from grabbing a girls ass in public and seeming like a fucking pervert.) then go to touch her face. Once you touch her face... KISS HER. If a girl is comfortable with you touching her face, she will be comfortable enough to let you kiss her. Alot of guys look for some "routine" to kiss a girl and then get mad when she rejects it. Kissing her (just like sex) has to do with how comfortable she is with you touching her. This is a way of testing resistance and calibrating exactly how comfortable she is with your touch. This will help you avoid "big moments" and just make it seem natural for you to kiss her.

IF SHE REJECTS YOUR ESCALATION.... DO NOT GET ANGRY. This shows that you are not in control of your emotions and that you turn into a whiny, pissy little bitch when things don't go your way. Girls subconsciously think about it this way... "He got mad because I wouldn't let him kiss me.... what's his reaction going to be when he tries to fuck me in the ass and I say no? Is he going to get even more upset?" DON'T. GET. MAD. Just be non-reactive. Simply roll off and let her come back to you. Then re-initiate the escalation. One thing to understand, say for example, a girl doesn't let you kiss her... She is not REJECTING you. She is just not comfortable enough with you yet to let you kiss her. By NOT touching any more, she will feel as if something is "missing" when you are NOT touching her and come back to you and want more.

Making kino NOT seem robotic really comes from practice and repetition. Just keep trying. DO NOT!!! and I will repeat DO NOT!!! force a girl to do something she is uncomfortable with. That is something that we here in Illinois call RAPE and is NOT FUCKING COOL. Kino escalation, when done properly, can be VERY powerful in leading a girl to seduction. Don't be a forceful douche bag... Calibrate her response with each escalation you make and make sure the emotions are ALWAYS positive. If you don't, you will have a girl running to the cops afterwards saying that you raped her. Don't be a rapist. (Don't not touch her at all though... This will get you friend zoned and you will become her therapist... Listening to her bitch about how big of assholes guys are.)

It's okay to be a little agressive... but don't overdo it.

Hope this helps you guys out!


-Majik

Check out the link at the bottom of this post. I strongly suggest watching the whole video if you're new to the game, however if you already consider yourself a PUA then you will be hearing a lot of the same information you have already heard, so just skip to 30:00.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWfSf1SMGi4

Part of the courtship process in general and about attractive behavior is YOUR behavior not just HER behavior. Body language is a form of communication and communication isn't you just observing her behavior, you must be aware of your behavior too, including over reacting to a girl looking down. Note: a look down is a sign of submission that is connected to attraction often, it's recorded in anthroplogist, zoologists, and psychologists studies of the courtship process. So a look down is GREAT thing, I'm not sure why you'd be paranoid about a girl looking down if you were actually well studied in body language. Check out the video below.

If you want to understand all of submissive signals check out this video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZlaW2UtlwA

How much did you study body language? Everything you just said showed more improperly applied knowledge than to understand it and use it as a tool.

Peace and Love,

Vic

I think what you mean is you’re trying to find a way to express “dominant body language” which is much different than positive body language. What I love to do when I’m sitting down (especially in a booth) is to sit back in a relaxed position with my legs open. Don’t cross your arms, instead put one hand by your side or on the table, and the other hand by your crotch (preferably put your thumb in your belt loop). This is a very dominant and sexually comfortable position and will be garunteed to get some women checking you out.

15 Body language blunders to watch out for:

1. Leaning Back too much — you come off lazy or arrogant.
2. Leaning forward — can seem aggressive. Aim for a neutral posture.
3. Breaking eye contact too soon — can make you seem untrustworthy or overly nervous. Hold eye contact a hair longer, especially during a handshake.

4. Nodding too much — can make you look like a bobble head doll! Even if you agree with what’s being said, nod once and then try to remain still.
5. Chopping or pointing with your hands — feels aggressive.
6. Crossing your arms — makes you look defensive, especially when you’re answering questions. Try to keep your arms at your sides.
7. Fidgeting — instantly telegraphs how nervous you are. Avoid it at all costs.
8. Holding your hands behind your back (or firmly in your pockets) — can look rigid and stiff. Aim for a natural, hands at your sides posture.
9. Looking up or looking around — is a natural cue that someone is lying or not being themselves. Try to hold steady eye contact.
10. Staring — can be interpreted as aggressive. There’s a fine line between holding someone’s gaze and staring them down.
11. Failing to smile — can make people uncomfortable, and wonder if you really want to be there. Go for a genuine smile especially when meeting someone for the first time.
12. Stepping back when you’re asking for a decision — conveys fear or uncertainty. Stand your ground, or even take a slight step forward with conviction.
13. Steepling your fingers or holding palms up — looks like a begging position and conveys weakness.
14. Standing with hands on hips — is an aggressive posture, like a bird or a dog puffing themselves up to look bigger.
15. Checking your phone or watch — says you want to be somewhere else. Plus, it’s just bad manners

Here are the do's and don'ts that have helped me discovery the Alpha Male mentality within me.

Starting from the Subjective state of mind
1: Don't be needy; an Alpha Male doesn't look to anything outside of his own resources for help or comfort
2: Learn how to face life...and the unknowns that come with it; Everyday is a new CHALLENGE, so suck up your pride and your ego. Take on the challenges of "living with/for a greater cause" ...
3: ...Courageously
4: ...Passionately
5: ...and with Ambition

Transitioning to the Objective state of mind
6: embrace the ideology of "Taking care of your own" first
7: believe (with confidence) that THE WORLD IS YOURS, Life IS OPPORTUNITY! and whatever you set you mind to CAN BE YOURS
8: be humble! the world is yours, but it's not for you to abuse. Do not exalt yourself. Be greater than no man, but the man you were yesterday. You have no need to prove anything to any man or woman for that matter.
9: be secure in who you are: your beliefs, your passions, your choices
10: Set goals to ACCOMPLISH, you can't measure what hasn't been sought out to achieve
11: reserve your strength/power for the goals you seek to accomplish
12: don't hesitate with opportunity strikes (goes along with 3 second rule)
13: be able to constantly think on the spot and make on the spot decisions (shows your wittiness)
14: go after what you want aggressively!! NO THING NEVER COMES to those who were NEVER WILLING TO FIGHT for it.
15: patience never rush a good thing, most of all success
16: LOVE the most powerful emotion and the only one that can overcame hate/disdain/ill thinking

BODY LANGUAGE
1: Mind over matter; it all starts in the head, your thinking - FOCUSED, CLEAR MINDED (no distractions), stay OBJECTIVE BOUND in a strong subjective frame of mind
2: EYE CONTACT is the first communicator of body language. it all starts in the head right?
3: FACIAL EXPRESSION the most powerful facial expression is having no facial expression. The most attractive facial expression is a smile
3: NO SUDDEN MOVEMENTS, your body control should be as fluid and in control as your mind over your emotions
4: IOI's and IOD's learn them, study them, master them (practice studying these in men - alpha men in particular and women; you'll pick on the signs alpha men give women and women give alpha men)
5: Strong, clear, but suttle attention to IOI's women GIVE YOU and DON'T HESITATE TO RESPOND WITH YOUR OWN IOI's (remember 3 second rule)
6: Direct IOI's of body language WHEN YOU HAVE VALIDATED A WOMAN'S PRESENCE..YOU VALIDATE HER! alpha male
- verbal opener (if you've done what you were supposed to do and studied/assessed the girl to be valid..complimenting, stacked assumptions based on OBSERVATATION showing your control of GREATER ATTENTION)
- physical opener based on proximity (wink, head nod, smile, a gesture of attraction, or simply close the distance and GET HER TALKING)

hope these Alpha Male guidelines help you secure the AMP'd up guy in you. Best and GL

Here is a simple trick to keep a conversation going forever.

Called conversational threading. If someone says a sentence there are a few subjects in it or at least 1. This is just basic English you know subjects and predicates all that stuff you learned in elementary school.

You take one of those and just say make a statement off of it giving the other person at least 3 positive ways they can take it. Then what ever they say back will have more subjects in it and you can jump off one of those.

After you run a thread it's course or can't come up with something you can always double back and pick any of the subjects you left alone.

Example: After you run a thread it's course you can always double back and pick any of the subjects you left alone.

I take the word thread out of that last sentence: "Yeah threads are a great way to communicate with people you don't know."

I take the word communicate: "Communication is key to life: I find that the only way you can make money in this world is through communication."

I take the word money: "The best ways to make money in this world is to set up a passive income and obtain financial freedom."

I take the word passive and Invoke the spirit of Majikal: "Passive income is for pussies! You need aggressive income!"

I take to word income: "There are ways to expand your income by using aggressiveness to work towards the passive income."

I double back and grab "people you don't know": "I find the best way to establish that aggressive mindset needed for PU, is to practice convincing people you don't know to hand over their money to you willingly."

I take this point and expand it into a story: "I used to work as a door to door salesman. Every day I would put on my cleanest suit then go to an office where they would focus on boosting your talkative state. I would be pumped, then I would go out and viciously assault the city in order to put food on my table."

You see how easy this is? I just had a conversation with myself and I could have kept it going indefinitely. You can talk forever. The beauty of this skill is that it can be used with any type of style you run. You can tailor your talking points to what ever you learned from your Guru, you will just never run out of things to say.

You won't find anyone who can help you here that has knowledge of how different styles resonate with different female psychologies.

Well, anyone besides me.

You want 5? I'll give you 8.

Here is my top secret 8 path framework.

After learning pandora's box and stealth seduction this was born. - This framework is still being developed because now I am pouring in the teaching of justin Wayne.

So I'll give this to you since I will soon be doing something much better. This will be a long post.

First. Understand female psychology.

She has 3 things she has to deal with. 3 problems. When it comes to relationships and dating.
Time, Sex, Relationship.

Each of these problems she will have 2 ways of dealing with it.
Time: This is how she invests her time with men. One is called a tester. The other an investor.
Testers will typically have many male friends. She spends her time with different male options and pulls certain characteristics from each of them to form her "perfect man" from the group.
The Investor will focus all of her time in one man and has very few if any male friends. She takes a guy with potential and tries to make him better, or more like how she wants him to be in ways she thinks is better. T vs. N

Sex: This is how the woman views sex with men. One is called a denier, and the other a justifier.
The denier will typically deny anything having to do with sex. She gets uncomfortable talking about sex or anything related to sex. Sex holds great emotional value to her. The justifier is numb to sex and will sleep with men easily. Sex to her is more like a hand shake and she often has hundreds of partners. She justifies the sex in her head, the other denies all sex. A justifier will typically drink, have tattoos, piecings, and/or wear provocative clothing. Denier obviously will typically not do those things and is a very religious girl, or one with strong morals, and values. You won't see her showing off a lot of flesh usually. A party girl vs a church girl. D vs. J

Relationships: This is how the woman views a relationship with a man. One is called a realist, and the other an idealist. The realist has a career and goals and can take care of herself. She views men and woman on a more equal playing field and will be more likely to buy you a drink then the opposite. Idealist this is the snow white woman. The homemaker who dreams of the picket fence the children, and the dog. She will want you to pay for everything and take care of her and her needs. R vs I

Now, combining these you discover 8 different psychologies of woman. TDR, TDI, TJR, TJI, NDR, NDI, NJR, NJI.

Now each woman responds differently to approaches in entirely different way depending on the mix of her psychology. You can't walk up and run a game on a NDR that is meant for and only works on a TJI.

When first starting out I focused on the clubs. The girl you will mostly find in the club is a TJI. That's why people find it hard to form relationship or meaningful connections with women by spam approaching women in clubs. TJI's are known as social butterflies for a reason. You get their attention quickly and lose it just as fast, and she doesn't care she is cold on the inside and justifies all of her actions including any fucked up traits. I don't like these women very much...

Anyway, that is a basic run down for a more complete overview I suggest you check out pandora's box, but the system is about 600.00 so that's why I'm the only one on this forum with the knowledge.

Ok, now that you know that lets go over the opener/framework.

I don't like cold approaching. It's a really bad style, I do what you consider a warm approach. After a quick preliminary analysis similar to what you may have seen in limitless.

First off we have the situation. 3 types of situations.
Dynamic, static, Dynamic-instatic

Dynamic is when there is a small window to approach like if you see a girl walking towards you and you're walking in the opposite direction.

Static is when there is an extended period of time between you and the girl. Like standing in line, or sitting on the bus.

Dynamic-instatic is a mixure of the two, mainly clubs and bars.

You have to approach each situation differently.

Wow so you told me I have 8 different types of women in 3 different types of situations. that means there are 24 different ways to go about this? If I use this one method or routine then I'll only be able to get 1 out of 24 women?

No. It actually gets deeper than that...

In each situation you have 3 types of women. Yes, NO, and Maybe girls.

A yes girl will be attracted to you as soon as she sees you, but if you don't use the correct thing for her psychology and/or you don't approach the situation correctly you will turn her into a no girl, and get rejected. No girls are unavailable to you, period. Maybe girls are on the fence about you, and if you don't hit the situation correctly, her psychology correctly, AND do a little more (Enter Justine Wayne - this I haven't mastered in the field yet so I won't speak on it) she will reject you.

This represents that 1 in 100 figure that these gurus throw out when telling guys to just follow their system, spam approach and you will get the girl.

Damn a lot to take in isn't it? I've internalized all of this stuff except the maybe girl skills so I'm no master yet. What I'm going to give you is the framework for getting all of the yes girls that you can get. Remember though that this will still only work on about 1 in 3 women you see. If you're an ugly motherf****r then it might not be 1 in 3. It might be 1 in 10! Factor in variance as well because it's not like you will run into 1 yes girl for every 2-9 unavailable ones. It doesn't work like that in the real world. You might run into 5-30 unable women before you walk past an available one. Or you might run into 4 available ones one after the other.

Imagine using an approach on the wrong girl in the wrong setting while being disqualified by your looks at the beginning...

This is why you see threads where guys are talking about "600 approaches and no lays", and 007 who has made videos of nearly 300 approaches and no lays... PU is too focused on the man, it should really be focused on the woman that you are trying to seduce, but the pioneers have set the wrong tone that everyone else has jumped off of.

Dynamic Framework -
Have your phone on your ear and enjoy a conversation with yourself. Just laugh and be really crazy and have fun with it. Maintain strong body language as you walk, shoulders pulled back chest up pelvis forward like you are penetrating a giant pussy, head held high and taking long strides. Stay focused on the phone and don't look at anyone or anything directly, as if you are in your own little world and nothing outside matters. Use your peripheral vision to spot the girl.

When you spot her asses her sex line. In your peripheral vision while talking on the phone and laughing look at how she is dressed, any visible tattoos or piercings. It should be almost instantaneous, if she is a Justifier you can use as much sexual tension as you want. (Note this does not mean talk about sex directly with you and her, or make comments on her being sexy or comments on her body, no woman likes that stuff up front.)

OK so you have D or J already figured out. Keep talking and closing the distance. When she gets into about a 6 foot radius you made a sudden gesture or movement that attracts her eye towards you. (this whole time you were not looking at her) Then look her square in the eye with a curious look on your face with a slight smirk. This is an investor test, it happens in a split of a second. A SPLIT OF A SECOND, and it will force an IOI out of her.

If she is interested in you and she is an investor she will return the strong eye contact and will smile lick her lips play with her hair or do something. I was shocked by this reaction when I first got it. It's so intense man...You won't believe it at first. Expect this to happen with like one in 35 girls that pass by you. She is an investor and is pretty much ready to go. You will perform a direct approach on this woman. Investors need direct approaches. Indirect stuff will turn them off immediately.

If she is a tester and is interested in you, she will break the eye contact and appear nervous. She will look down at her feet, and may play with her hair. Looking down at the feet is the signal of tester and interest. This is the most common reaction. You need to perform an indirect approach on her. Direct stuff is too intense and will turn her off immediately. During the conversation she will say something that will give you an opportunity to go direct. This window has to be taken or it will be closed, sometimes forever.

A no/maybe girl will either look off to the side indicating she is not interested, or will avoid looking at you entirely even when you make the hand gesture. This is because she is consciously preventing herself from looking at you because she is either afraid of the interaction or she is caught up in some thought and distracted from the world.

You can approach these women if you like, but it will be fighting an uphill battle. I'm studying the ways of these women now through Justin Wayne because I want to expand my choice even further than what I already have.

Man...I've been typing a long time. I haven't even gotten to the actual interaction after the opener, or the other 2 situations yet. I'm going to call it for now, if you are curious about the other stuff just send me a PM. You have an opener that is better than everything else you will find on this forum, or in the world for that matter in the dynamic situation.

Get into a heavy foot traffic area and do this with every girl that crosses your path, and run your favorite direct/indirect thing. This type of "approach" is done in a few instants and will allow you to "approach" massive numbers of women without anyone else even seeing what is going on.

I haven't been on in a while but I came across a similar situation before. I forgot how most of it went but this is how I started the approach.
Basically... lie.
I see my target and decide to sit next to her and no conversation was exchanged (it's a public bus and I can sit wherever the hell I want).
After a minute of looking out the window I turn my head to her and I said "sorry to bother you, but this is my first time on this bus; do you know what route it takes?"
I take that bus often so I knew exactly where it was headed. I didn't get the number but the rest of the ride she was more open to conversation.

Conclusion:
1) You went too direct. She isn't walking away from you; the target is static which gives you time for indirect game.
2) How often do you see people asking for permission to sit on a public bus? You see it but it's not too often which gives you the upper hand.
3) If you can't find anything relevant to say in the situation "lie." You are a stranger, essentially you can say whatever you want as long as it's congruent with the situation. If you marry her and she finds out that you took the effort to think of something to say (aka love at first sight) she will think it was just a cute memory (you will be forgiven for lying haha)

The only real element you want to use to create attraction is what I call POLARITY.

It's a philosophy of attraction that if you understand it, you can create attraction with any girl.

So to understand it, polarity is what happens when you put two magnets together. If they are
of OPPOSITE poles, they will by nature attract.

And that what attraction really is, two opposite poles put together.

So if you're talking with a woman, create the opposites in the conversation.

Two basic opposites you want to create is SERIOUSNESS and PLAYFULNESS.

How?

Well let's say the girl studies law, and she's really passionate about law and how the justice
system needs improvements.

That's a very serious conversation, so you want to use POLARITY and use the OPPOSITE of seriousness.

So you say something like, "Yea the justice system really needs improvements, they need to hire
guys like me to make things at least look better..."

You follow?

Let's say you are having a normal conversation, and you want
to make it more sexual.

Instead of saying to her, "Man I would love to grab your tits"

Say,

"You know I'm really enjoying this conversation, but I think it's just not fair that you had to wear
those jeans...I mean I'm all nice and normal and you have to come here being all sexy and nice...
I'm done talking to you"

Make sense?

So when you're talking with women, notice the tone of the conversation and combine it with it's opposite.

If the conversation is too light, make a serious comment to contrast it again.

Some more examples are:

- You approach a woman, and you say "You are really beautiful"...and then you contrast it by saying, "If you
were blonde(or any opposite of her hair color) you'd totally be my type"

- After you approach her and talk to her, accuse her of trying to seduce you, even though you were the
one who approached her.

- Tease her about something she does. If she has big feet, compliment her shoes, and then ask if they
come in women's size as well.

- You're in bed, you're making out and things are hot and heavy, you contrast it by saying, "We shouldn't be
doing this"..and then you kiss her again.

Maybe you can notice the patter which is first appearing serious, and then teasing her.

That is polarity, and that is the most important element you should use when building attraction. There are
others as well, like escalating physically, but the most important one is polarity.

I like to think of attraction as something that is just there for everyone, but to a varying degree... -Physical Fitness
-Grooming (hair style can impact how your face looks in relation, making you look more or less handsome, so a nice haircut can work in your favor, where as a bad haircut can work against you)
-Hygiene (most people like being around people that smell nice, seem clean and have nice teeth)
-Posture and Body Language (good posture is a turn on for most, and a person with good body language can make something relatively boring seem interesting just by how they are animated when they speak)
-Fashion (style is fairly subjective but if you appeal to a persons sense of style it can be a huge turn on, think about the type of girls you have a thing for style wise and see what you can do about appealing to that niche from a style point of view)
-Speaking Clearly and Confidently

Last night I was browsing youtube and came across some Cory Skyy videos. I really enjoyed this one even though it's basically 45 minutes long, so I thought I'd post it. It's just the audio from a webinar he did at some point, so you can basically listen to it while doing something else. He talks about the inner game side of how to build sexual attraction, the importance affirmations, etc. I think he puts forth a lot of really helpful ideas, even though the talk is a little all over the place, and there's this other guy who talk every now and then who is kind of annoying. There's nothing he says that can't be found elsewhere, but the way he presents it all is really great and made me almost immediately start thinking about myself differently. Heres the link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVv71WDCgxE

Here is something you might be interested in. Since this is a PUA forum.

After watching the secret I decided to test out the law of attraction combined with my alpha brain wave skill. This trick I have done several times and it works on a consistent basis. We will call this a happy coincidence for the skeptics. For the open minded individuals this is basically a summoning ritual.

I did this so many times I actually stopped because I don't want to be married and perfect women were being presented to me that matched all of my criteria. I didn't want to seem ungrateful due to me not wanting to be married at the time. I am a nice guy for real and I don't like leading women on. I can usually justify myself into not getting into a relationship because women don't meet my criteria, but when I meet a flawless woman I don't have a leg to stand on with not locking her down.

This is where the rubber meets the road and you will start to get an idea of the powers that I wield, and you are fully capable of doing. This is about to get really personal for you. To me it doesn't matter. I haven't fapped in a month and a half and Have no intention of doing so anytime soon.

Remember this is not going to summon some puppet. You will happen to run into this girl. She is still a rational thinking human being so you still have to do the stuff you normally do. After you do this don't do it again. It will be like hitting the reset button. You will run into the woman within 48 hours. The contingent is that you have to be in places that will allow you to run into a woman. Like don't do this then expect her to come knocking on your door. Go out in public and just keep your eyes open for her. You will see her trust me. 48 hours is the standard. If you don't run into her in the 48 hours you did something wrong, or you saw her and didn't realize it. Do the process again.

First write out on a piece of paper all of the qualities you want. From trial and error I know you have to put down that she is sexually available. Also single. I ran into some that were in relationships and I didn't want that. Get as specific as possible. It's all in the details. Be realistic also. don't be a troll and put down you want a girl who is 10 feet tall of some bullshit like that. Talk about her income, her attitude, and how she looks.

After you have all of the details down. Find a porn star that looks like the girl you want. Bring the movie up. Next, unfocus your vision so that everything is blurry. Use the breathing techniques I taught you and go into the alpha brainwave sate and review the stuff you wrote down then hit play on the movie and tell yourself you want the woman to look exactly like her while still maintain the blurred vision and controlled breathing to stay in the alpha brainwave state. The sexual energy you get from the porn will power up everything and fap to your hearts content while in this state.

Keep your vision unfocused and your mind in the alpha state the entire time. You can repeat the qualities to yourself over and over again to keep your mind on the intention, don't think about anything else because it will bleed into what you are doing. After your done don't fap again for the 48 hour period and go about your daily life. Don't worry about running into the girl. In fact I find actively looking for the girl blocks the process. I don't know why that is. Just... when she is in front of you, REALIZE it then and there and act.

Final thought. This isn't something a skeptic can perform. I mean why are you doing this while maintaining skepticism? You're telling yourself it won't work from the beginning so it won't. You have to throw that shit away at least for the 48 hour period. Actually it still may work I don't know, I didn't move through skepticism when I tested it out. Also, I've never told anyone about this process until today, it's one of the many skills I've been hording to myself.

A simple way to be able to pick up where you left off is through something called anchoring.

Anchoring is basically the PUA/NLP way of saying Pavlovian conditioning.

When she's in a state of being attracted to you (like when she's giving you IOIs), do something unique, like touching your ear. She'll eventually associate that feeling of attraction to you to the action you perform.

For your specific situation, though, it's probably too late to consciously set up a new anchor, right? In that case, think back to all the times when she showed interest in you and see if you can figure out what caused her to express those IOIs. You might find something useful.

All in all, don't worry about maintaining a casual attraction during a period of time when you have no contact with her. Focus more on re-sparking attraction when you go get another chance to meet. That's much, much easier. You don't even need anchoring.

Yo used these before in many sets. They're hilarious when used when it's all calibarated. Have got a lot of i'd say "good" results meaning ya'know dnt settle for good since great is a whole lot better.

These are some things I've said n used as pushing, pulling, teasing , n challenging goes.
These can work in building attraction but they'll all work for amplifying the attraction to a sexual manner (good sh#t)
Have used 3 but wanted to throw in a fourth one just to add da value. Yep yep.

When you know she's attracted to you n either looks /smiles at you:
"You're not seducing me with those hypnotizing eyes and warm smile. So stop."(smirk works w this too)

When she touches you or puts your hands on her lke shoulder for example (anywhere else will work too):
"I didn't say you could have permission to put those [add adj.] sexy hands on me. Stop ! It's too arousing. You just might turn me on and I don't think you could handle that."(cocky smirk added)

Just to playfully disqualify her:
"We'd never work out at all because you carry too much sexiness. You don't come off as someone who can handle carrying tht much attractive quality. You're a total goof. Seriously how are are doing tht?"
(look surprised or serious faced then smirk)

This last one just made on the fly but thought it'd be cool to share.
After you definitely have her attracted n she has qualified herself:
"Im not 100 percent sold on your good style/fashion. It's a total trick to try to get me to like you. Don't worry it's working a little bit though. You're VERY persuasive for an amateur/total trouble maker.

The last one was just made up but thought it'd be cool to share. The other 3 I've used at the time thts right n they work. These were made up but where I got the ideas for all of them can't reaylly remember w all the pickup material I've went through. Again they've been used before by me n have got a lot of results. Feel free to use them n give some constructive criticism n how to make them better. Thanks
- dasmooth

Think of it this way, when you talk to someone you don't give a shit about do you start listing off all your accomplishments? No, cause you don't give a shit what they think of you. If a woman starts telling you about how amazing she is, she's hoping that she'll convince you that she's amazing. Which of course means she's attracted to you.

Here are some examples of qualifying a target in A3 based on non-physical traits...

- you are a gym addict, wow, that's so cool... I work out every morning at 7 A.M. (shows appreciation for the target's discipline and establishes a commonality between the two of you)

- I like your sense of fashion... you remind me of these classy french girls from back when I studied a semester in Paris... (appreciation for her style and connection to an experience you had)

- you can take care of yourself... respect! (appreciation for her independence and shows you don't feel threatened)

- you've got such energy... we're so alike... (appreciation for her attitude towards life and establishes commonality)

You can reduce the qualifying line to a simple: you are/have ..........., I am also/I have once/......... you get the point...

I will not go ethical on you and tell you not to lie to these girls, we are here to learn the "how" of getting women, not to debate political correctness... in the spirit of the "how", I would advise you to keep the real reasons to yourself and pretend to like some non-physical qualities of your target. It will get you where you want a lot faster... You can also pull the honest act and tell her more or less directly that you just want an ONS, but that will reduce dramatically your chances... think about that and give them what they want to hear... few women enjoy being treated like pieces of meat...

... she is trying to grab your attention. She is telling you about how much she travels, animals, kids, etc. Things that she think might interest you in her. Qualifying is basically the females DHVing to you.

Qualifying just means explaining your intentions. As it relates to gaming women, this means explaining to each other what your intentions are towards them on a sexual level and why you think you are worthy of them.

You disqualify yourself by pretending not to be interested in the woman on a sexual level.
You avoid qualifying yourself as that makes you seem like you are seeking her approval and validation, which is a DLV.
You get her to qualify herself to you so that she is forced to recognize your higher value status, which is a DHV.

According to Mystery, when you receive 3 IOIs you have attraction and can then proceed to qualification. His qualification question is "if you could do anything in the world without fear of failure, what would it be?" Once she answers this, you qualify her about some aspect, and then you move into comfort building.

For me, qualification is THE WHOLE POINT of the interaction. It's the meat of the pickup and it's the part where you really get to find out what a girl is about and decide for yourself whether you're really interested in getting to know her as a person.

The attraction phase is essentially a bunch of silly tricks to get her attention and get her interested. It's like all those lame sales techniques like false takeaways and whatever. It's not really YOU, and you haven't really gotten to HER yet.

Once she's interested, THEN you can actually get to who she is as a person, and really display the fact that you have abundance because you ask screening questions, and want her to explain to you the positive features that she has that YOU WANT.

If you like to have wild crazy sex in bathrooms of clubs, then this is the time to tell a story about that and ask her if she's that kind of girl because you find people like that fuckin awesome to hang out with and so liberated and free spirited. If you're looking for something long term then that's the time to talk about that and ask her if she values family and honesty and loyalty because you're super tight with your family and friends and you don't have time for phonies and fakes.

If she shares any of this with you, she will qualify herself and prove that she does parallel those values. This is fantastic because now she's working to prove herself to you. Once you get a few of these out of her STOP THE BULL SHIT C&F NEGGING SHIT and just honestly say "you know when I first met you I wasn't really sure, but actually it's great to meet a real, honest person who gets X and cares about that cuz it's important."

If she just honestly disagrees with you then you've saved yourself a lot of time because you two are clearly not compatible and the rest of the pickup is gonna be more difficult and she will not be that fun to be around. You can choose to lie to her to get a ONS but there are plenty of girls out there who will be much more fun because you'll actually be able to HANG OUT with them and have a good time as well as fucking them senseless!

Finally, it's happened to me after a bunch of ONSs that they girl asks something like "why do you like me." This is because I didn't do qualification properly. I generated enough attraction to get through the close, but they don't feel a proper connection to me and this can cause problems down the line. If you want to avoid the player vibe, and you want to keep an LTR or MLTRs going, then you need to qualify properly and early, otherwise they will assume you don't actually give a shit about them.

In conclusion, qualification performs a number of important functions, and should be reached ASAP and properly executed before moving on to comfort and seduction.
1. Shows to her that you have abundance
2. Makes her prove herself to you
3. Establishes commonalities and a deep connection between you
4. You can figure out whether this girl is worth actually hanging out with
5. She feels there is more to this than just you wanting sex
6. She will want to see you again after sex (as long as you last more than 5 seconds!) and will be less likely to experience buyer's remorse.

After reading some new stuff I got inspired to put together a new routine,
used for qualification, DHV and Rapport.

The routine involves asking a girl 4 questions, witch involves
Social intution, Personal health, Ambition and Trust.

The routine is quite quick - Pop! Pop! Pop! Pop!

Setup: (Optional)
"You got the weirdest little look in your eyes. I dont know If I can trust you.
Maybe you're a serialkiller or something" (Make up something that applies..)
Her: Bla bla..
"You know what, I have a very good social intution. Mostly I can tell what people are about, but this one time I misstooke this really cute girl I met in a bar for a nurse, she said she was and I belived it, and almost died when she all of a sudden incisted on checking up on my prostate. Tuned out she was a plummer".
Her: Bla bla bla
"Therefore I always ask the 4 basic keystone questions before spending more than 10 minutes with someone. You ready?"

1.Have you ever, and I mean ever, lied to a guy you just met about what you do?
2. Lets say you could never have Icecream again. How would that affect your life?
3. Could you spend your time with someone who never dared to follow his dreams?
4. Have you ever felt complete trust for a perfect stranger?

I'll post result on this one later on. But I have great faith.

More like...share personal stories with her. I have a formula for creating a personal story out of nothing that I use.

I'll ask something like "so how was your day?"

"I went to work had an awesome lunch and saw the most beautiful sunset in my life!" - she says.

I go for the least eventful subject in order to slip this in under the radar...work.

Deep rapport formula - take the topic then relate it to something in your childhood, finally relate that childhood relation to something present day and present it as if you arrived to an epiphany in front of her.

I usually go off the top of my head in order to keep my honor. So it's real.

First introduce the topic into your childhood.

"I remember when I was a kid I always wanted to work. I had all of these things I wanted to buy but my mother never would get them for me." - then get confirmation from her to make sure she is hooked. "Does that make sense?"

her: "yes...(she may tell you something in return or just say yes)"

Next discover some lesson in the childhood situation.
"When I got my workers permit it made me feel independent. Like I'll be able to get what ever I want now." - Second confirmation to keep her on the story and so you aren't blabbering too much. "You know what I mean?"

her: "yes...(she may tell you something in return or just say yes)"

Finally, link it to the present.

"Now, it's like whenever I go to work I get that same feeling of independence." Get a final confirmation from her. "Does that make any kind of sense?"

You have to deliver the last part as though you are realizing it in the moment. I just came up with that as I was typing this out for you. Which is a true story, and I actually did just learn something about myself. I love when I get the opportunity to whip this out.

Then break the deep rapport and take things back to light and fun.

Do this one or 2 more times and she will have fallen in love with you.

I did notice this thing when i was 18, and i tried to build rapport with a girl. We didn't have absolutely NOTHING in common! my topics bored the shit out of her and shes mine, but suddenly i noticed a very cool thing! I didn't no these rapport building things or comfort things then and i even usually didn't care what she was saying, i just wanted to get laid. But this one, instantly talking, i did notice something:

Her every third word was "hear", "listened", etc. It was always about something doing with her sense of hearing. So i tried to adjust my language with this. When she was talking about some shitty faggot band of hers what she listened, i always answered something like "i don't know what that is" or "do i look like i now those bands?!", i started to say "no, haven't heard of", "never listened that kind of music", and cocky "do i look like a man who listens One Rebublic?!" Then it all changed, then she stopped talking about them and didn't even get upset about me dissing her music. The whole conversation did 180! We did came along so fine after that that i fucked her later, while at first i was ready to jump out of window to never see her again! So, with smooth pace of bodylanguage, add these things in your language and pay attention HOW she says it, and how you say it:

*Sense of feeling
*Sense of hearing
*sense of seeing

*In the start, you don't really know yet how's she talking, so you use all these word of senses in your language, sense of hearing, seeing, and feeling. Example: that stupid MM opener which i modified for this purpose: Did you guys heard what happened outside?! I was in the line and i noticed there was two girls fighting for this one guy! It felt like they were gonna kill each other blaa blaa blaa. This one is a NLP trick with a little bit modified for my own use.

See, all three major senses in one sentence. When you talk like this, you please everyones inner language, since you don't know yet what they are. You should always talk like this to every group and your target until you notice what's shes.

*Then when you escalate what's hers, start talking the same way, talk with that same major sense she's using to view the world. Example: Girl: "When i was there, i felt the tension of that place, i could feel it in the air! I felt like everybody's was watching me, but then i started to grasp some courage and went there, and nailed that thing!" You: "Wow, that's awesome! I can feel you are a good storyteller, i really felt like i was there I don't know, maybe you will be very successful at what you do, i kinda feel it"

Then take her pants out

Few things to remember:
-Remember to point your interest on sense what she MOSTLY use; in everyday chatting we still use all of senses in our speakings
-Don't turn in to a robot who can use one million synonyms of that one sense because it doesn't sound normal, remember previous advice
-Some of these senses works together, so some times you need to escalate what is she really talking. Example if he talk about lot of 'saying that', it refers to hearing sense. Lot of 'then i thought' prefers feelings and etc.

now go out there and test these to someone, and notice the difference, Cheers!

So you can open, good.
You can talk, good.
Thats all you need to build chemistry and rapport. Lol.

If you want anything to happen you need to gage her interest by flirting.
Communicate as a man to a woman. That way she knows your not just another chump.
Then just try and get to know her, the rapport will build as you show a genuine interest and the chemistry will blossom as she reciprocates your interest.

I'd start of with a light fun flirty chat off the open then move into deeper questions but honestly when first getting to know a girl you dont need to go too deep, just enough to build comfort. Sometimes I just vibe and pull without knowing much about eachother, just basics and just have a goodtime and escalate(flirt, kiss, lead, roleplay)

It all just depends on what the girl is up for. But you dont need "techniques" for rapport, just go in, vibe, and flirt. It builds itself through your efforts at getting to know her.
Ill leave you with a nice rapport building example : As you get to know her and flirt, you can then ask a genuine question about her, anything you want to know, the more you learn about eachother the more rapport you build.

But to get to the point in which she wants to learn about you, you must keep it light and fun at first until she cracks and is focused on you. Play with it. Good luck !

Pacing and Leading

These are two extremely effective NLP skills I employ in almost every set-even outside of PU. Pacing and leading are components of building rapport with any other human being. Ever notice how groups of best friends speak to each other in the same way, or use the same vocabulary? Maybe you’ve noticed that when people are really engaged in a conversation, their body languages mirror each other’s. Pacing and leading allows for the PUA to use exactly these types of behavior to calibrate a set so that creating rapport is done subtly, [partly] nonverbally, consistently, and easily.

Pacing.

After whatever opener you’ve used, and considering you’re speaking to the HB, begin to pace them. This means that you are mirroring, as the technique is also called, the unconscious cues that they are projecting. Elements include
• Mirror their pace of speech (does she speak slowly, quickly?)
• mirror their vocabulary (if HB particularly loves to use the word “really” , for example, to describe something she’s fond of, use and emphasize that match word while you’re speaking back to her.)
• mirror their breathing rate
• mirror their excitement, or lack thereof
• mirror posture
• cross over mirroring: if your subject makes a physical gesture, as if to put her hair back behind her ear, you mirror that same behavior in a more subtle and less exact way. In the afore mentioned example, a possible cross over mirroring gesture by the PUA could be scratching his ear, nose, forehead or hair briefly. If the HB crosses her legs, the PUA could cross his legs too. And so on.. (be careful to be subtle in certain, but not all, cross over mirrorings, as they can be perceived as you mocking the HB.)
After quickly reading your subject, you can start pacing them using the techniques listed above. All of these are common occurrences that happen when two “click,” and what this technique does is that it refines the elements that make that “click” happen, and allows the PUA to generate a “click” when he wants to.

^ honestly much easier done than said. Yes. In fact, this is something you can practice everyday with everybody. The next part is even easier.

Leading

Once two people have a rapport, it’s very easy for one of them to lead another. After having paced and mirrored, enough so where you can feel a rapport already built, you’re now able to lead. Leading can be done verbally or non verbally, and is usually effective in the form of a suggestion. Commands are harder to make work, but are possible-especially if you disguise the command in the form of a suggestion. Command: Go to the bar with me to have a drink. Suggestion: hey you know, I could really do for a drink.
If you’ve created the appropriate rapport, when you lead, it’s going to feel like you both want to do ___, or go ___. The way that I personally lead most often is nonverbal. After establishing the rapport, Ill start turning my feet towards wherever I want to go. Because the HB is already in a state of rapport, she’ll often mirror me subconsciously. While my upper body is still facing her, ill transition into just slowly walking into that direction. Remember to make this step by step, and not just: one second you’re talking to her face to face, and the other you’re walking away. Instead, turn one foot, then the other, then take one step forward, stop, gauge her reaction (maybe more rapport needs to be established?), take another step and turn it into a walk.
You’ve said nothing, she feels comfortable, and you’re going to where you want to go.

Practice this, and you’ll see how effective, easy and simple it is to lead people. You can even adapt this principle to make the other person agree with you verbally, its basically the foundation for a compliance ladder. In fact, this whole post could have been summarized in: 1. Mirror. 2. Lead. It’s easier than assembling furniture from Ikea.
cheers,
Ali

arite well im laying here in bed and just have to get this off my chest...

so ive heard these terms thrown around: pacing and leading. Never really understood the depth of it and what exactly the terms mean in a real sense. well a few days ago i was in the car with a friend of mine who is probably the most alpha guy ive ever met. without realizing it he just subtly controls every aspect of the interaction. He rarely laughs, alwasy holds the tension etc. When i was talking to him about a topic he brough up(what we were just doing) he interupted me with a new topic(something that had just happened to him). at that second it just hit me like f*cking truck. That little thing that he does, changing from topic to topic, which he chooses, IS the textbook pacing and leading. I realized at that moment that thats why i find him to be a great guy, despite his self centeredness and his rude attitude at times, he just draws you to him. Because in every interaction he always paces and leads. The effects of this are just enormous. Its almost akin to how going through alot of venues in a short time builds rapport. Going through a lot of topics, in which u dictate all aspects not only increases the chances to build rapport, but it just leaves you seeking approval. im sitting there and without realizing it, im just subtly asking for his approval by constatly following his topic changes. by me following his pacing and leading the conversation not only does he coem off as an Alpha male, but he just makes you earn his approval inadvertantly.

so basically, i tried this out today with a few women, in the way i figured it was supposed to be done, by going by what was going on in that interaction. Let me tell you, it just boosted the game onto a whole new playing field. i used to pretty much heavily rely on my ability to make cocky+funny remarks, but wasnt entirely sure how to express my dominance in an interaction. but now with this newly understood idea of pacing and leading the convo along with cocky and funny i feel like im a whole new alpha male in the eyes of women. it just express's utter dominance. it says "Im here. Im leading this conversation. You follow me and what I think. Not the other way Around. We are going to talk abotu what I want to talk about." and it just works.

Try just to turn her around so that she doesn't have any friends in her line of sight but just you. See what I mean? That way she is isolated even if she is literally still like one meter away from her friends!

Take said girl by the hand, lead her to the isolation zone. This works no matter where you are. Maybe not the desert.

This one move will always separate the have's from the have not's.

Build enough comfort and connection with her to the point where you can suggest hanging out somewere alone. Simple.

"Let's go outside. I want some fresh air."

"I can't hear you in here! Let's go outside and talk."

Have a super hard erection when sarging the target and pretend that you're not noticing her stealing glances at your bulge. Eye fuck her without looking at any of her erotic body parts. Hold her hand for several minutes and when you notice her cheeks or her ear lobes are red, whisper in her ear, and say: "Let's go."

Don't elaborate where. Just say, "Let's go."

Works around 50% of the time for me but it works. It might work for you.

Hey man, isolating the target isn't as much about techniques as about increasing the levels of comfort and confidence in your target. If you get her invested in you to the point of isolating her, you can always ask her to walk with you to the bar to get some drinks, to sit down on a couch in a quieter place in the club, to step outside for a cigarette, any pretext will do... Just make sure you have passed the "funny guy I just met" status in her eyes and gone to the "guy I just met that I have a great connection with" level... Isolation is more about the right timing... You can say just "Let's go over there" and she'll follow if you have established that connection...

Exactly. just "TELL" her what you want to do with her, and LEAD. She will follow you and expect her to follow you.

I grab women and pull em around by the elbow/hand as soon as I meet them. Do this a few times and see what they do. The words you use aren't very important....hell you can just wink at em and drag em away.

Lots of times the females will initiate this if they are into you...ask you to walk to the bar with them, go smoke with them, etc. Its very obvious when they are trying to get you alone.

"Hey, let's get out of here. My place is pretty far, want to grab a six pack and go back to your place to watch a movie?"

Before the date--"Hey, I've been working on this new recipe. I'd love to come by and cook it for you."

Saying "let's go to my place" (which usually implies let's have sex) will usually force girls to say no because she doesn't want to feel like a slut. Instead I would first move her around the venue for a little while and then tell her "let's go check out this kewl place" and just take her to my place. Or you can say "let's go watch this kewl movie at this place". It's funny because in any of these cases the girl knows what you want whether you say it directly like you do or whether you say it like I suggest. The difference is if you say it indirectly the girl will not feel like a slut because she has an excuse now. Girls hate to feel the responsibility of things especially having sex because it makes them look needy. So if you can shift this responsibility on yourself they'll have easier time justifying their actions.

As far as staying in the set and extracting it all depends on you. If you like having a conversation with the set then extract less often. If you hate wasting your time and talking to the set and would rather just take the girl you like and fuck her then extract more often.

- Amazing Art -

For ex: start by holding hands, reading her palm, then kiss, then make out etc... get to as far sexually as possible. If she is with few friends most probably she will come with you. You have to lead in order for that to happen. I would usually say something along the lines " I know your with friends and probably not used to separating from them, but we are so attracted to each other it's just so much sexual tension between us(make out then say), come let me take you somewhere really fast" basically this lets her know that you understand her situation but genuinely like her.

I start finding out about her situation so I asked her with who she came and where she lived. She says she came with two friends and they all came by walking and that she wants to leave with them at the end of the night. The objections are your key to the pull.

So I know they don't want to be separated and I'll have to find a way once I'm outside to do that. If she came by walking, it means her apartment is near the club, so key #2 found. I look at my watch and 10 min before the club closes I'm like: "Damnn I haven't ate for 5 hours I need to eat some pizza. Come with me. Now!" (stop asking for permission, be decisive) She mumbles something but I just grab her hand and yank her towards the exit. I tell her friends: "Hey guys let's go, we're leaving". Everyone just follows me and once we're outside I make small chat with her friends just so that they know I'm normal and cool. We start walking in the direction of her apartment and my girl stops in front of the restaurant and she's like: "Well, here's your restaurant, let's go eat" I'm like: "Ah damn it they're closing at 3AM..." It was actually open written in big letters OPEN, but I point at a restaurant near it and say: "Damn it's closed". As soon as she sees the CLOSED sign of another restaurant, I quickly scramble her RAS by yelling nonsense ("McDonalds, damn it, hey where we're going? oh yeah we were supposed to do that oh shit, bla bla nonsense stuff) and suddenly just shift her attention to something else by yelling: "I'm sure you have salad at your house! Let's go I'm super hungry" in the same time I lead her by the hand so she just complied by completely forgetting about the pizza. Now we're almost there and one of her friends starts saying like: "Wow you're bringing a guy home! You don't even know him". I solve the issue by giving rational reasons that I'm going at her apartment just to eat a bit and than I'll be gone and every time she starts to say something about me going home with her, I just start talking loud about a random subject so she just gets suck in to my reality and she starts talking about that subject. Yes, women have the attention of an ant...you put some emotion in the way you talk and a loud voice and they'll just follow up with that without logically putting the pieces together of what is currently happening. We arrive at her house and of course, I don't want a fucking salad so I make out with her on the couch and her friends are looking at me. I go: "Hey give me a glass of water I'm thirsty". I get up and follow her in the kitchen...when she enters I just smash her against the wall and make out to get her really aroused. Do I grab a glass of water? No. When she starts to just a little bit moan, I grab her hand and lead her in her room where I closed the lights, throw her on the bed and the job is done. Smoking body for a 31 year old..

It's time to pull.

In my head, I briefly consider my options. Obviously, I could say something like "Let's get out of here" or something along those lines. I realize there's a lot sexier of an option.

I break away from kissing her, take her hand, and just lead her off the dancefloor, down the stairs, and out the venue. A few times, she takes my hand up to her mouth and kisses it.

When we get outside, she finally says something to me. Asks my name. Exchange names, and keep holding hands. That's when it struck me: this girl left the venue with me without me even saying anything to her. Fast, too!

I start walking her towards where my car is parked. I ask her if she drove. She said she walked. She says "Just so you know, nothing's going to happen". "Of course". I ask if she has roommates, she says she does.

"Cool. You wanna come to mine for a drink?" She says sure.

I tell her I am surprised I even made out with her on the dancefloor, since I usually avoid it "because it's tacky" but "there was something I liked about your vibe, so I figured why not?" She agrees.

We get in my car, and I drive towards my place.

When it comes to me having sex with a girl, who I am, and what I stand for as a man shines through. I never attempt to "try" and get a woman to call for sex. I'm never ever "trying" to have sex with anyone. Trying is doing with the intention of failing.

I assume that I am going to have sex with the woman 100 percent, it's a certainty in every single instance. It's going to happen at some stage regardless, so there is no need to force anything, or race. It's the only natural outcome which can occur from me being a polarizing masculine person.

The secret here, is that the above is simply a belief which I CHOOSE to have. It's a belief that serves me, my purpose, and guides me in the direction of my successful self. You can consciously choose any beliefs you want, so why pick the negative version, which only serves to limit your life experience.

With this belief, there is no desperateness or neediness towards sex ever. I know I can have sex whenever I want it. Sex is no longer a privilege that has been bestowed down to me by the every magnificent holder of the vagina.

I am the cause of sex. I stimulate sex. I am the result of sex. I am sex!

With this way of moving through my seductive endeavours, women, in many cases can get quite annoyed about this. It has become a very normal reaction for me. It confuses them and frustrates them, BUT, it makes the want to experience sex with you on a whole other level.

They ask themselves "why is this guy not trying to get me, why is he not trying to convince me to have sex with him? WHY is he not chasing me"

I do not try. Ever. I simply be, act in the moment, and authentically express myself through descriptive statements, or physical action.

I become what I feel, that's your only job.

I already know I am amazing with women. I choose to believe this. But right now, that particular girl iv just begun interacting with doesn't...but, they are aware of 'something' that is making me different to other men out there. Something strong. Not even mentally, but rather physically, for example: "He is talking to me about a Chimpanzee riding on a segway, but my vagina is getting really wet, what's happening"?

Through the power of your desire and instinct, you undercut her logical brain, and stimulate her innate animalistic desires. We are animals at our core. We just have a huge brain, which is why we aren't all humping in the streets.

Ok, enough about public humping, I have side-tracked, lets return.

After some texting, and the reassurance that she doesn't have to do anything she doesn't want to, she knocked on my door at 9:30pm.

I shouted for her to let herself in, she did.

I was already lying on my bed watching a movie, she was simply joining in on that...for now.

She sat down on the bed beside me, in quite a rigid way. I knew she was uncomfortable, because she had suddenly made me feel it. Be aware!

To remedy this, I took action.

I got up and retrieved one of my t-shirts out of the wardrobe and threw it to her. She was in uncomfortable bedtime attire, so I took charge and fixed this for her, because I'm a good man, always looking to add and increase her comfort.

I lay back down, took her by the shoulders, moved her, re-aligning her pillows and laid her head on my chest.

"Chill out, relax, enjoy this"... I said.

Men, take the LEAD! Lead in every case. She wanted to be lying on me and cuddling, but she didn't know how to go about doing it within this new sudden dynamic. She is out of her comfort zone.

If you invite a woman into your world, you must guide her. Most women are not used to, or familiar with this level of masculine presence, so many will tip-toe.

Shortly after getting comfortable, we began to kiss. I stroked her, first softly, then firmly. We began to get more physical...when she stopped it!

She then began to tell me about her relationship issues of previous, and what had just happened.

Her state shifted quickly and she began to get flustered, anxious, and kept saying "I'm sorry, I'm sorry".

This, is quite common.

A moment of logical intervention from her ever helpful brain.

I immediately positioned myself back from her, but kept my arm on her.

"sweetheart, why are you saying sorry, you didn't do anything wrong. Weather we do anything tonight is completely irrelevant. You don't have to do anything you don't want to, I have told you this. There is no pressure, chill out and lets sleep" (or something along those lines)

She then began to get into a mental dialogue with herself attempting to justify her decisions based on the situations.

Where most men completely fuck up here, is by "trying". As they want the sex so bad, they begin to join in on the conversation she is having with herself, trying to sway her in the direction of his penis.

This is foolish, and in most cases a complete waste of time, to the point you may never sleep with this woman again. You will have destroyed the dynamic. Trying to take is not attractive.

Do not attempt to entertain or fix her internal battles. They are hers, not yours. Be respectful of her emotional process. They also have no basis in reality, so it's quite pointless.

What I do...is the same as I always do, and have done throughout the interaction from the beginning. I allow her to talk. I give her zero logical guidance. I don't want to have sex with logic...I want to have sex with instinct. Her instinct is still on...let's just give the logic a while to tier itself out...Again...we are animals.

I sat back watching the movie. Still, erect.

In my head...it's always on. I know once I'm aroused, she has no choice but to feel that energy from me. After more "I'm sorry's", I guide her head back down on my chest...

I am aware of her breathing shifting. I could feel her horniness and desire begin to build very very quickly. It was fucking intense. My heartbeat sped up. Her breath was getting heavier on my chest. She was trying so hard to control it. So what did I do...I listened to her body, and took unapologetic action within the moment. No thinking. Just action.

I slowly cupped her hand, and moved it, placing it on my hard dick.

She began to stimulate it...

I began to stimulate her...

We had sex. Obviously. Naturally.

Sounds like she just wasn't comfortable. Lmr in general is said to be the result of inadaquate comfort biulding before had.

And if touching her pussy is a big deal to her, pressing the matter at the time will only reinforce that belief.

happened to me once, the first time she did that i was like ok, this is only our second date, its fine, totally normal.
she slept in the same bed as i and nothing but kissing and touching each other. then i saw her again and she came again to my house and slept besides me and did not wanted to have sex.

i just dumped her and a week later i had a different girl in bed with me.. and we did have sex.

The point of the story is if she truly doesnt wanna have sex, and you do, your relationship is not going to work so cut it short.

but the best way to kill lmr if for her to trust that you actually like her. HER, not her body, not her personality, but her as a person. You have to show this by being confortable arround her and by showing it verbaly and physically. like hugh her qith actual care while you are kissing her, tell her she looks nice (dont overdo this one. tell her her dress looks good on her or her hair looks good and thats it, dont keep telling her she's beautiful or you will look like a pervert) etc.

and the other technique you could use is the freeze. if she shows lmr, say ok, and get your pants on and leave the room. wait for her to come to you and let her seduce you, repeat if necesary.

i've never used that technique successfully, but Style sais its good. i would not relly on its efectiveness to be honest.

NEVER DROP YOUR EYE CONTACT and say

YOU: Listen, I wanna see you again!! (pause for a sec) What are you doing tomorrow? Actually I'm busy tomorrow, what are you doing on (some day)?
HB: Emm, I don't know (most common answer)
YOU: Gimme your number!!! I wanna take you out!!**
HB: xxx-xxx-xxxx
YOU: Ok Candice, I'll call you.... BIG TIME!!!

(Note: don't ask for the number, DEMAND IT!!!)...
...** My Memory Routine:

PUA: Let me test my memory; tell me your 10-digit phone number and if I memorize it correctly you get a DATE!!
(You will screw up, she will laugh; so you stick out your cell phone and you get her number)

easy bro -

1) just ask for it because you are attracted to her
2) build a commonality, find an interest and do that interest together
3) if you know of a party or are throwing one, invite her AND her friends
4) business contacts (hard to build into attraction but do-able)

"you: so what time do you get off?
Her: blah blah blah
You: do you want to hang?
Her: sure/i'm busy/ blah blah blah
You: Ok let me get you number"

"man, I feel bad keeping you from your friends, maybe I could get your phone number and we could continue this conversation another time"

Triangulate, which means looking at her left eye, then her right eye then her mouth and repeat (not necesseraly that order) if she does the same kiss her.

Hey man, what tends to help with me is look for visual cues first. A big indicator that she wants to kiss, is her looking at your mouth, and perhaps wetting her lips (I bet you do the same thing to. I know I do ) So, if you're in doubt, keep an eye out for these signs.

Also, when I am ready to kiss a girl, I make sure that I'm already close to her. Planting one on her from 3 inches away is a lot easier and way less awkward than dive bombing her face from 3 feet away. Try putting your arm around the small of her back, and pressing your fingers in to pull her toward you, and you move in slowly. It gives her a sign, and helps the two of you coordinate so one person doesn't have to lean in all the way.

Hope this helps!

1. Do you have a boyfriend?
2. Do you find me attractive?
3. What is stopping you from _____ right now ? (making out, or having sex)

Stop progressing through the questions if you receive a yes to question 1 or no to question 2.

A friend told me about his success with this approach, and I have yet to try it out. I am going to use it soon and will report back with results.

Notes on question 3: success with the first option is higher. Secondly, unless they say no, you have the green light if they pause or do not say yes. (especially with the first option, use more discretion for the second option)

Lastly, I would try this at larger venues/events, so the chicks that you ask the 3 questions to find out that you are using this on multiple women at the same time and place.

Watch Gambler's videos.... he has some good techniques for kissing... jus improvise them and you can use them anywhere here's the link to part one... jus continue watching the other parts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DsVwYqVhdU

NOTE: Before you do the trick, you can ask her "On a scale of 0 to 10, how crazy are you?", whatever her answer is, tell her "We'll have to find out".

I'm going to use an olive as an example to illustrate my routine: You take the piece of olive, look at her and tell her "Take the olive from my lips" and then place the olive in your lips. Once she leans in and takes the olive, viola! You can easily kiss close.

The small piece of food was an excuse to get her close enough to your lips so you can kiss her. Notice that you did not ask her for a kiss, neither did you force her to kiss you. All you told her to do was to take the piece of olive from your lips. She can do it without touching your lips, so it's a challenge for her, and trust me when I say this, girls LOVE challenges like these.

Keep in mind that you can't pussy out when doing this routine. Keep your calm, don't shake or retreat, and most importantly NEVER be embarrassed if there is ANY way that this fails. I have already made a plan B just IN CASE it fails, which I highly doubt. If anything goes wrong, you can just say "Too bad, you weren't as crazy as I thought you would be" then swallow the olive or whatever you offered her and continue your date normally.

Enjoy

You'll generally get 5 objections to trying to kiss a girl.

1.) "I have a BF"

2.) "I don't kiss"

3.) "Not right now"

...

I usually override them 60% of the times or more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... -mOJFm86Mk

i always close my sets with an instant date request. Why?

Because if she says she cant go for a drink right now, i just say okay, some other time then & number close but if i ID-close, i always put in a time constraint & use language which leads, something along the lines of: "Well, i've got a spare 10 minutes and i was gonna grab a drink anyways. Come with me "

About 7 minutes of rapport building (and push-pulling), I said, "Well im about to checkout, thanks to you for your tips, and im going to head to Starbucks for coffee." and she replied, "Oh cool, I was heading there as well, let me try this on, and ill meet you out front!"

M15- Well ladies we are done shopping but my brother and I are gonna go get A shake you can come if ya want.

They stare at each other and agreed to come...

In Mystery Method they talk about compliance...

If you have built rapport and have moved into Comfort Zone.. you can usually get her to comply with certain things.. A great instant date or Bounce location in a night game setting is.. Getting a bite to eat after the bar/club/event.. If she has friends with her.. invite them too.. and when they come dont pay all attention to her.. act like they are all your friends too.. get to know them as well.. They will also be more comfortable with you if you do.. and when she talks about you later.. which she will.. If you give them a good vibe.. they will have better positive feedback towards you..


~Genuine

I say, Hey can you tell me where the sun glass hut is? the cute Asian girl says "yeah it's blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blab blab." "thank you" I reply, "hey, sorry but you look very familiar, where do I know you from?" (I love this question even though I know I've never met her before she's going to start talking about her school hangout and hobbies....and I'm going to use this information to help build comfort) she does just that and I use a few of the things she say's to open new threads (multi-thread)


We get to talking, I'm friendly and flirty and...Oh shit...I need her name? "I'm sorry I'm being rude I'm Vitamin-J and you are?" "Jessica!? no way, that was my high school sweethearts name, I can't even talk to you anymore" "okay Jessica you seem like a cool chick, you out waiting for friends to show up.., I need to find some sunglasses but have no sense of fashion why don't you help me?"

Always avoid using phrases such as "I was wondering / thinking" or "Maybe we could" or "Do you want to? It basically transmits no emotion what so ever and quite frankly, it's boring as hell.

Being assertive and slightly cheeky is something I recommend doing. Even from a psychological standpoint, humans are much less inclined to say no when they're being "told" what to do rather than "asked" whether they want to do something.
In your case, "You, me, english/jap practice at x place, y time" is what I would've gone for.

I'd agree with Majikal about tying it back to your initial encounter. First text, regardless of day-game/night game, whatever-game for me is generally something along the lines of:

"Hey it's X from X, now you have my number as well "

Adapt it... If it's nightgame and you're both drinking... suitable would be:

"Hey it's X. The guy who was just hitting on you. Now you have my number"...

She isn't mistaking your interest or the reason you're texting with something like that, that's for sure. Plus it's confident. (I've used this exact one a number of times... generally successfully).

First of all stop it with the stupid "lols" and "hahahas" and silly emotes. Since she knows what most of what you are saying isnt funny you are giving her the text equivalent of nervous laughing. Nervous laughing is generally considered subservient behavior in evolutionary biology used to lower tension with members who have higher status than you- super beta.

Secondly your conversation has no agenda or direction. While its nice to inset humorous asides most of your text is not funny and unfocused. The whole frame of the convo is basically wrong.

You should be focusing on being funny, slightly challenging, qualifying, exciting and looking to set up logistics for a live meet up. Again text is not a good tool to garner attraction and the more you do it, especially this unfocused, the more it seems like a aimless effort at rapport.

1) Never double text
2) Stick to 3 lines max per message
3) Keep the focus on meeting up. The conversation can start open ended then move to activity then to schedule and making an agreement about a time/place to meet up
4) Meet up ASAP
5) 90% or more of your game is lost over text, so forget about being self-amused/value/breaking rapport/investment, just get her in front of you again
6) Next time, set up the Day 2 while she is still by your side
7) If she sends multiple messages, only reply to the message that is most relevant to you meeting up with her. Let the other threads be. Text is basically a 1 thread game.

The only reason you should be texting this girl is to hang out.

Do you really think she's gonna talk about her fucking life via text message? SHES BUSY!! YOU SHOULD BE TOO!!!

Text her right after, so she's got your number as well.

I generally use something cheeky, like:

- Hello, is this the number for the penis reduction clinic?
- Hi you, it's the guy who was ogling you at the bar just now.

Keep it short. And funny.

I go for the booticall:

"Hey, just so ya know, i got home safe "

An area of my game that is particularly strong is my ability to talk to girls on the phone. If a girl picks up after giving me her number, I know that in 99 out of 100 cases, I will fuck that girl. It is therefore a great skill to have. If you can get your skills on the phone sorted, it will help you in so many areas of your game.

I run natural game and I therefore cannot give you the conversation. (I can help you with this, but not on this thread). I can however give you the principles that I have developed that have helped me to get literally hundreds of women into my bed.

Some basic info:

The main goal of my phone game is to talk to them like you have known them for years. “Hey Carly… how’s it going?”… “What’s going on in your world today???”

I always look to build up time on the phone with that person… I am looking to become a significant part of their life. When you start to game a girl on the phone, there will come a point where she always picks up your call… Where she always calls you back and gets excited when she sees you calling. This is like a tipping point and this is the point that we all must aim. Tipping points vary depending on each girl and the quality of your phone game, but it is important to have this goal in mind.

Some specific techniques / tips (in no particular order, so sort them out yourselves):

I usually send a text the day i will call them. I will not ask any questions in that text (needy) and I won't care if i get a reply. I will just send a text with some call back humour. Direct and dominant. If i kissed the girl before I took her number, i will always remind her of this:

"I kissed you last night.... don't you ever forget that... i'll call you later, BG xxx"

• I rarely say hello… especially after a few calls with that person… I normally go straight into the conversation. “What are you doing?” This is exciting and it’s fun and it gets the convo going with a good energy. I find that stopping and introducing yourself is a little needy.

• NEVER BE NEEDY… it kills attraction fast. “Why haven’t you returned my call?” “Are you ignoring me?” These are things you should never say… If she hasn’t returned your call, don’t let it bother you. You need to make this girl realise that you are not hanging on her every word… that a call from her isn’t going to make your day… that you don’t give a fuck.

• Once calls are made / voicemails left, don’t dwell on them… get on with something else. Occupy your mind with something else and just forget about it. You can’t change the voicemail you just left by thinking about it, so stop thinking about it. If you dwell on it, when she does call back, your conversation will convey to her that it bothered you... you are suddenly a needy nerd.

• Give girls nicknames. If one comes to you straight away, then use it and stick with it… Don’t worry about shit tests… Keep hammering her with it and it will stick. Every other guy is calling her Kate or Lucy or Carrie… DON’T BE EVERY OTHER GUY.

If a nickname doesn’t come to you straight away, then you should call them “Miss X” with the X being the first letter of their surname.

So you get the number of a girl names Helen Smith (and of course, she is saved in your phone as “Sexy Smith” (but that’s a different topic). When you call her, you will refer to her as “Miss S” – simple.

A quick case study:

You are calling her…
Helen Smith: Hello??
You: Well hello Miss S… what are you up to today?

NEVER EVER CALL THEM BY THEIR FIRST NAME. Don’t just use the nickname once… hammer it into them every time you refer to them.

The more interesting girls will start giving you nicknames in return… accept them willingly… It’s a connection that you have with this girl that very few other guys in her life have.

• Swear at girls in a playful way… DON’T START BY CALLING THEM A CUNT. “Swearing escalation” is like kino escalation or sexual escalation. You need to start slowly and when they accept it, move forward. Keep your voice tone playful.. … Cow… Bitch… You bastard… you wanker… you fuck head… you piece of shit… you cunt. I am swearing at every girl I fuck. It’s fun… it’s so offensive, it’s actually non-offensive and no other guys are swearing at them like that. Be the guy who is strong enough to do that shit and it will pay you rewards.

• Mimic their voice. This can be used over the phone or in person. If the girl has an unusual or different accent or talks slowly or with unusual diction, impersonate her when you speak to her. Calibrate… Don’t just do it because I told you to do it; does she laugh when you are doing it… Is it pushing a few buttons (it should do because it’s cocky and that should create attraction)? Is she shit testing you? If she is, carry on. Is she getting genuinely pissed off with you for it? If she is, then don’t do it. Turkish, Spanish, Russian… mimic their accents throughout the call… it’s hilarious.

Also copy their expressions... Everyone has sayings and expressions that they use more than others... Start to copy them... Not in a weird and freaky way, more a playful... "I am busting on you kind of way".

One girl always says to me "can i ask you a question"... So i start saying the same back... it's just fun you know??

• Have conversations with other people when you are on the phone – it’s non-needy and demonstrates dominance – both of which are good qualities to demonstrate. It lets her know that you are not dropping everything to speak with her. She is no one special... It’s natural.

Eg:
Chat chat chat….
“Hang on a sec… Westy… where the fuck are my shoes?... Ok… so anyway…”

• ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS BE DOING SOMETHING WHEN YOU FIRST CALL THEM… The first call is often deemed the pressure call because if you mess things up, it could be game over. Doing something keeps the mind active and makes you less concerned about what she is saying and the manner in which she is saying it. Why do sales people pace when they are making a sales call… Don’t be sat in the corner of your bedroom with every word crushing your frame. Make a bed, sort some washing out, tidy your room, be driving somewhere. Just make sure that you are engaged in some activity.

I always tell them what I am doing as I am doing it – involve them in the experience. It just sounds more natural.

Her: blah blah
Me: Hang on a second… OK… just take a left here and then it’s… hang on… well… where the bloody hell is Falmer Road??? What a nightmare. These multimaps are shit.

I have girls on the phone when I am brushing my teeth.

Me: I’m just doing my teeth… Keep talking… [brush brush brush]… keep talking.

I gargle down the phone and away we go.

• Call multiple girls in a row and leave the hottest one until last – you will develop good “chat” and you will reveal a good few talking points that you want to carry into the next conversation.

• Use call-back humour to get the humour flowing at the start of the call.

Eg “Who’s that???” It’s gay-boy.

• Do funny short little calls.

Eg…
She picks up: “Do you love me today?” [then hang up]
“What are you doing?”
“I really want a blow job.”
“Should I buy chicken or steak for dinner?”

It’s funny and it’s unpredictable and these are both attractive qualities.

• Try to do a lot of second date stuff on the phone. I regularly do all my day2 stuff on the phone, which means I am just meeting them for sex… More tips on why this is so good and how to do this later.

• For all you TMM junkies… a ROUTINE!!!!! When you are not so strong on the phone, have a go to story. (When you first call a girl) – This is a story that you can go to when the convo dries up. Interestingly enough, just having that story there should make you more relaxed and therefore reduce the chance of you actually needing it.

Eg…. I saw something hilarious today… “a man fell over on the underground and his wig fell off… blah blah blah”…

See… watch how my method and TMM seamlessly integrates with each other.

• Never let a call go dead… the length of the call is not important… keeping it lively, fun and interesting is. If you feel it dying, get the fuck off the line – NEVER ALLOW HER TO FINISH IT.

Always look to end calls… you end MSN conversations… You lead.

• Have phone sex with them if you can – Sorry guys… you are not getting this!!! But remember… your voice tone is essential when you are getting sexual on the phone and in person.

Practice, practice, practice – You will not wake up tomorrow and just be a master at using the phone because you read my post on phone game. It may be hard for you at first, but you verbal skills will develop over hours spent on the phone.

There is a shit load more I could tell you about Phone Game, but I feel there is enough into here to notch you up a bit.

I hope it helps.

Baby Girl xxx

One of my buddies got drunk and made a move on a girl, nothing got out of it, but apparently he was overly persistent, and she accused him of sexual harassment with their college authorities. After that my friend has fears of making any move on a girl, to simply avoid legal issues.

What do you do to prevent this from happening?

Here is my take on this matter:

Cut down on drinking goes without saying, but my friend has fears of making a move even if he is not drunk.

Sexual harassment thing interferes a lot with the perseverance of a real alpha male. There's a gray area of her testing you and harassment. You can only learn to distinguish it with practice. But what do you do to practice? - you may ask.

You make a move, you escalate, you persevere AND you always leave a way for a girl to simply walk away. If she can easily walk away and she doesn't, even if she verbally refuses, she is probably testing you. For example, if you decide to kiss her, keep your arms behind your back and just lean in. She can walk away, but if she stays she likes you.

It is a very sensitive topic, especially in the US. With practice you will easily see and feel if a girl is into you and when to escalate, when she wants you. Before you get there, cover your ass, and always leave her a way to walk away easily.

Remember, to always use your judgement, for that you must stay with clear mind.

3 Things, As Seen From A Woman's Perspective

1. STOP SENDING WOMEN PICTURES OF YOUR DICK.

Most women don't get turned on by photos of a man's penis. It's a common mistake. Even if you think she'll like it, ask first before you do. If she says no, drop the subject. It makes guys look sleazy and gross.

2. Negs can cause more harm than good.

A well-delivered neg will actually get a little chuckle out of a girl, or a playful punch. A poorly delivered neg is often mistaken for a flat out insult and will get a girl to hang up the phone. Though I have seen good negs being delivered, they are exceptionally rare. If you're new to PUA, do not even attempt a neg. It will more often than not come out wrong.

3. Most women don't care if you are a bad dancer - they just care that you dance.

True story. I mean, there are limitations, but even a general two-step shuffle is appreciated. Girls like guys who dance, and guys who dance get more opportunity to game girls.

Should add : 4. Stop trying to be an asshole
So many guys think being an asshole makes them alpha same as with negs you have to use it like a spice if not your just going to tool yourself if you deliver it wrong and mostly comes off as being in-congruent

Just as important as knowing which types of girls to approach is knowing which ones to not waste your time on. Most of the following examples is for night game but some also apply to day game.

Here is a good list of women not to waste your time approaching as 99% of the time you wont get anywhere with them. Time is a major factor when out at the bars/clubs and its very limited so spend it wisely.

1) Women who are holding hands. This seems to be getting more and more common. Girls who are doing this usually aren't lesbians but rather having a girls night out. The moment you approach one she will usually shut you down pretty much immediaty and if not, her friend will.

2) Groups of 3 or more. With groups of 3 or more there is almost always a major "group dynamic" that goes beyond the scope of this post. Just know, don't bother.

3) Girls surrounded by tons of guys. If you want a challenge go for it. However, if there are two cute girls, one with another girl friend and the other cutie surrounded by a bunch of guys... why not go for the easier one? Simple logic.

4) Hyper Chicks. If a woman is bouncing off the walls and running around all over the place, stay away. You won't get very far with this chick.

5) Over dressed woman. If it looks like she took an effort to cover up, chances are she doesn't wanna be there and was drug out by her friends. Don't bother.

6) Zero chemistry women. Ever approach a chick and find you really have to work and force it? Basically there is zero chemistry between the two of you. Just eject and go talk to someone else. This stuff should be fun, not something you have to force.

7) Girls who won't let you escalate at all. This ties into the last one a bit. Even if you're able to have a good conversation with her, if she continually rejects your escalation attempts then she have zero sexual interest in you. Move on buddy.

Girls who are rejecting everyone left and right. Go out enough and you will see the following happening: Girls non-verbally baiting guys to approach them and as soon as the guy does, the women blow him out. These girls usually go out in pairs and are only there for validation. You wont be getting anywhere with these girls.

Till Next Time,
Jeff "Warped Mindless" Stanton

I myself am pretty well off, not Lamborghini rich but I do very well. I find that not even mentioning money at all goes very well in attracting sincere women.
Just do pua like any other guy, It will be a welcome surprise for the girl later.

The #1 most unattractive trait a man can possess is being creepy.

Have you ever been talking to a girl and she’s finding excuses to get away from you? Or maybe you think she’s interested but it’s impossible to get her number? How about the time when you started talking to a girl and her body language was turned away and you couldn’t make eye contact?

These are just a few of the signs that you’ve been labeled creepy. And the worst part about it is, once you’re in the “creep zone,” it’s EXTREMELY difficult to get out. In all of your interactions with women, you want to stray far away from creating this label. Let me tell you the six best ways to avoid being creepy.

1. Don’t Ramble. The second you start to ramble in a conversation it demonstrates that you’re nervous and you don’t actually care about the conversation itself. It appears as if you just want to talk and not listen. When a person in conversation won’t stop talking and doesn’t pay attention to who they’re talking to, it exhibits weak social cues. Converse with the other person, ask questions and create an experience. Don’t be a talking robot. Also, stay away from initial conversations regarding death, religion, politics or any other intense debates. This usually doesn’t create a sexy vibe to work off of.

2. Smile. Ever see a person walking down the street toward you with either an angry or straight face? Imagine if a stranger with that face started a conversation with you out of nowhere. Creepy vibe? Yes, definitely. If they approached you with a warm smile, then you would at least give them a chance. The same goes for you! Smile all the time. Especially, when you meet new people. I don’t care if you have to fake it. The creepy guys are the ones who either don’t smile or have a face that looks like their numb. Don’t be that guy.

3. Fashion. Beyond the fact that being fashionable is attractive, it also makes you appear like you’re “with it.” A man at the bar or on the street with a solid getup looks important and appears confident. If you decide to skip out on the way you dress, you have an increasing chance at coming off creepy. Remember, a man in fitted, clean garments will come off more attractive than a man in gym shoes, baggy, khaki pants and a ratty t-shirt. Women think you’re creepy when you don’t seem put-together.

4. Cleanliness. Keep the armpits deodorized, your facial hair intact, and keep the teeth clean. If you’re not already doing that, then I suggest you start right now before you finish reading the rest of this post.

5. Overstepping your boundaries. You have to know the proper social boundaries when meeting a woman for the first time. Examples:

• Don’t start touching a woman before she knows you’re into her.
• Don’t be too needy.
• Don’t talk constantly about your ex-girlfriend.

The aforementioned examples will label you as creepy. Not sure if you’re overstepping your boundaries? E-mail me for an answer: tripp@trippadvice.com

6. Body language. This is last but definitely not least. In fact, it’s the most important. Confident body language will be a huge factor in keeping you out of the “creep zone.” Examples: keeping eye contact (don’t burn a hole through her head), straight posture, not fidgeting and keeping your hands out of your pockets. Also, remember to give her space. A close talker is so awkward, especially if you have bad breath.

Those are some of the basic techniques to being personable and to not being creepy. Employ these in your everyday social interactions and pay attention to your moves. If something ever goes wrong in an approach, NEVER blame the girl. Instead, look back at what you could have done better. This way, you’ll always be striving for improvement.

7 Could be: When you kino escalate don't look where you touch or wait for a reaction from the girl..just flow as if the touch is the most natural thing in the world.

Something I stumbled upon quite recently. Read this, think about it and if you think im wrong, critisize it. Its how we all learn this game. So here goes:

Game should be cycled. What do I mean? I mean there should be periods of time where you go out gaming every damn night, and periods of time where you don't actively go out gaming. As a metaphor, a body builder who takes steroids will tell you to cycle them. Take them for about a month and then dont for a month. Why? Because if you keep taking them you will damage your health and if you don't take them at all you will not gain mass as quickly. I feel game is the same.

I feel most puas fall into 2 traps. I have in fact fallen into both. First is the fuck this I give up, ill just work out, make money and get married to a decent girl one day. Second is the one where PUA takes over your life. You NEED to PUA and if you don't you feel like crap. You start needing this validation of girls and when you don't have it, you feel empty and like shit. If you want to have PUA as a fun hobby to improve your life, you cant be at either of the two extremes and you need to be in the middle. This is where cycling PUA comes in.

Go out for 7 nights. Straight. First day will be decent, the second will be better, third and fourth will be your peak days, fifth may suck and the sixth and seventh will likely be peak days again. (Dont quote me on this because other factors apart from your mind set can affect your game too). You will feel like a baller, like a boss. But then stop. Dont go out for the next 7 days. Why? Heres what will happen:

The first day will be all good, you will feel like a boss reflecting on your last week.
The second day will be kinda shit, the withdrawal from the validation will start.
The third you will be ichting to go out, just wanting more validation.
After that things will get better as you immerse yourself in other activities, hobbies, friends, read up on pua materials, even go on dates with your sucsesses from before.
After the 7 days are up, go PUA! I promise you will start this 7 day cycle better than the last.

It was DEFINITELY a shit test.

She was trying to poke at your height. There are various answers you could say, one that
comes to mind is "If I'm not too big for you, you won't be too tall for me..."

I had a client once and he told me how he went out with this girl, and things
were going great when all of the sudden she asked him if she can call him shorty.

It was obviously a shit test aiming at his height, and he was kind of taken back by it.

I told him he could have said "Baby after I see you naked you can call me whatever you want..."

And then to ignore her for a moment.

Another member of mine said that he was talking to this girl, and all of the sudden she says "Yea, I have
a boyfriend..."

And he, without a moment to think about it just said, "I have a dogg"

The girl burst out laughing, and they actually hook up.

If you want to learn how to pass shit test, you need to learn how to come up with stuff that is

A) BALLSY to say
B) CHALLENGING for a woman
C) Slightly COCKY and ARROGANT, but FUNNY at the same time
D) STUPID just like the test

The best way to do this, is every time a girl tests you, and you don't come up with an answer, jot the
test down and then try to come up with 5 to 6 answers you could have said that fit the above
description.

You want to train your mind to answer tests quickly.

My personal favorite is: "This is an outrage." Delivered in a very serious yet calm tone... very versatile.

Another one that is pure gold is: "Clearly, your boyfriend isn't spanking you enough." It's a pretty commonly used canned line, so there is a good chance she's heard it before, but it's still good.

I hate making threads that are supposed to teach lessons as opposed to asking questions. So I'll post it here!

Per Gunwitch's SMMA, and I subscribe to this idea:

Stop looking at everything as a shit test when a girl pushes back against you. Learn to distinguish between a girl telling you to get lost, insulting you in a serious/angry tone (that's a rejection, deal with it, it'll happen a lot more), and a girl's logical brain struggling with her attraction to you. If a chick comments that she doesn't date guys your age, race, etc, it means that for some brief moment in time she has evaluated you as a dating/sexual partner. So stop looking for snazzy comebacks.

Just like with AMOGs, the best comeback to a shit test is to just keep talking to her, ignore the test until she tells you to leave or just starts ignoring you.

OP - ...This is a great routine, but I think it comes a bit of tryhard if you don't transition well. You also don't got the flowers for the suprise effect.

* So does anyone have any suggestions for a good transition?

Bad poster - kino her.

Take her arm and pull it over you.

or claw her.

Push/pull is kino as well as verbal

integrate both.

OP - True, but that isn't a transition!

Bad Poster - lol, it is a transition if you didnt kino her before

actually, an obvious transition isn't needed. You can just keep the convo going with anything. That is a transition in itself

Just keep talking about everything and anything (whilst keeping kino and escalating the kino slowly)

The trick is to be comfortable with her- the convo is to help you be comfortable escalating more than just "trying to game her and get her to come with you".

Talking about anything and getting comfortable is more important than "a line" or a "routine"

Its all about being yourself and getting comfortable being yourself.

Now look, rambling takes balls, just like anything you have to do it. What is rambling? It's talking about anything and everything. Tell her she's cute on the opener, then quickly notice shit about her and talk about that, or talk about something that happened to you before or yesterday, or talk about how amazing the weather is for a date wink wink cheeky. Or tell her to quickly walk with you and chat about her favourite dress.

This is where the saying "what you say doesn't matter, it's HOW you say it" comes in. Of course it matters that you say something, but that something can be anything apart from the obvious things you wouldn't talk about like rape, murder, insulting her or her friend, or anything that causes girls to run away screaming ohmygodhesscary.

Rambling is learnt easily, it's not something you require much training for, in fact it comes when you are in a talkative state of mind and you can get yourself there quite easily. Force yourself to talk about something and go on every tangent possible, whatever comes to your mind. This is called free association and shifts your mind into a forward thinking mode, where you do not look back at what you said but always move forward, the way it should be. This is also how you pass shit tests by the way, by constantly moving forward in your conversations, never looking back, because looking back causes you to analyze what you just said, self doubt, say you're sorry for saying something when there was no need for apology, etc. Moving forward in you conversations is the way to game constantly, which means you can make mistakes in your conversation game because even if she is a little weirded out, you are spouting so much shit that she'll forget it in the next 5 seconds. The great masters of the game don'T have top notch conversation skills, they just don't look back.

That's how you transition from open to bed.

Ah transitions, those simple little things to keep everything moving along nicely. Most guys use transitions that are far too long. Personally I’m a fan of the single word transition and I’ve covered four of them in the past. Now, I’m going to share a top secret transition that you can add to the other 4 (the slide, the dismissal, the action-reward, and the pulse to recap).

You could call it the interrupt, but I prefer to refer to it as THE COUNT as it is named for the Sesame Street character Count von Count. This transition is mainly used for when she starts taking the conversation down a path where you do not want it to go and you need to keep from drawing negative attention to the fact you have to switch the subject.

Two of the instances where the interrupt transition is the most useful are for:

1. Boring conversations
2. Upsetting conversations

Did You Know: If SHE starts talking about boring subjects YOU will be the one remembered as “that boring guy” if you are remembered at all. Likewise if she starts going on and on about how this woman at work upset her, as she is getting more and more upset, she will later avoid you for those feelings you stirred up in her. Crazy, I know.

So, how do you switch gears midstream without drawing unnecessary attention to the fact?

You listen for any example of itemization involving numbers (people love to itemize) and once you catch it you switch over to the transition.

Sounds easy enough. But what is the transition?

The Count Transition:

When you recognize the switch over point you become Count von Count by adopting his cheesy vampire voice and start counting.

“1…2…3! Ah, ah, ah.”

Note: This transition works for people who have actually watched Sesame Street so the best bet is twenty-four-years-old and up. Also, please, please, please use this transition sparingly as it is one from my personal trove. The last thing the world needs is guys misusing this and spazing out all night as the Count. This is a hundred per center that works equally well with both men and women.

If she knows what you’re going on about she’ll laugh and your transition will be successful. The ladies LOVE the Count. (They also love Scooby Doo, but I’ll save that one for another time.)

If she has no idea what the hell you are talking about it still confuses her and you’ve successfully interrupted the conversation long enough to transition into something else.

Some of you will immediately get this simple, yet complex transition. The rest of you are probably saying to yourselves, “That’s cool, but WHY does it work?”

It works because it first creates a pulse interrupting her thinking pattern with an unexpected bit of information. Second the tonal shift of your voice suggests playfulness and lightens the mood. And third it creates an inside joke that you immediately pull her into. She’s counting, you’re counting, and suddenly she gets the reference as you regress her into a nostalgic state. Not to mention the extra points you get for being witty.

1. Pulse-State Interrupt
2. Tonal Shift
3. Regress

Ah, ah, ah…ahem.

I know what you’re saying. Counting isn’t something that always comes up in a conversation. Not to worry. I’ve got you covered.

Running Wingman Gag:

You can use it to settle your nerves before approaching.

Wingman: There’s a busted ass chick over there.
You (as Count): Ah, that’s ONE! One busted ass chick!
Wingman: No, she’s not the only one.
You (as Count): That’s TWO! Two busted ass chicks! Ah, ah, ah!

As an Opener:

As you are walking up to a group of three girls:

You (as Count): One beautiful girl. Two beautiful girls. Three beautiful girls! Ah, ah, ah. Now…that was silly. (Start talking about whatever you talk about after you open)

Random Interrupt:

After ordering shots as you are passing them out at the bar.

You (as Count): One tequila shot. Two tequila shots. Three tequila shots! Ah, ah, ah.

So, as you can see there are a number of uses for the interrupt transition, but be careful. A big reason this works so incredibly is because it is unexpected. You break it out and then you drop it shortly after. However, if you overdo it the transition loses a lot of its magic and turns you into the weird guy. Don’t be the weird guy.

"Oh that reminds me..."
"Get this..."
"You are going to believe me but..."
"Oh my god, check this out..."

Make a tease
Use something observational
Run another opener
Run a routine
Just let it happen
Shut up and look

It depends on your budget. I worked on my wardrobe buying 1 expensive thing at a time.

This is my entire closet (minus stuff I wear for comfort or to do work) - Credit Paul Jenka mostly, some women's opinions, and what I like and am comfortable wearing.

2 bath Robes. One blue Ralph Lauren Polo and the Other is a white one I stole from the Carlyle when leaving from my trip to new york. When a buddy and I had some chicks over we sat around puffing cigars in the bath robes like bosses then fucked the girls. It was great.

3 dolce and gabbana black T shirts. 2 have picture designs on them and one is all black

5 banana republic t shirts different colors

1 Adidas Hoodie Fitted (I don't like baggy cloths)

4 pairs of prps jeans different colors and patterns.

2 prps t shirts

2 gucci belts

2 Luis vatton belts

1 zegna emeraldo all black dress shirt

1 zegna emeraldo blazer tailored

3 Armani dress shirts

1 Armani tie

1 Armani pin stripe suite italian tailored

1 armani belt

1 pair of Timberland 6" Premium Waterproof Boots

1 Pair of Gucci Snake Skin Loafers

1 Pair of low top prada's

3 pairs of Adidas (different colors I wear the Adidas everywhere because they look good and are inexpensive to replace)

2 pairs of loafer like timberland's

The way I pair the stuff is usually one of two ways:
Uptown and downtown.

Uptown:
Full Armani suite, dress shoes - with tie, or without the tie top two buttons unbuttoned
Zegna blazer, dress shirt, jeans, and loafers - without the tie
Armani suit jacket, dress shirt, jeans, and loafers - without the tie

Downtown:
Tshirt, jeans, any shoes besides the Armani dress shoes. I'll throw on the hoodie if it gets cold.

I don't mix t shirts with blazer or suit jackets. I've never really liked that look. Anyway, you don't need to buy high fashion items to have a wardrobe like this, and some of the stuff is inexpensive like the Adidas or the banana republic t shirts. I would suggest if you do get a bunch of cheap stuff to gradually replace the cheaper items with the more expensive ones as you go. You get what you pay for and not everything high prices is "over priced". Italian made is generally better.

I need to buy some more jeans though that's probably where I will spend my next few checks since I only have those 4 really high quality ones. I have a few pairs of cheap jeans but I don't wear them when I'm trying to get women.

Many people mess up when buying Tshirts because they don't get the right fit. I don't feel like explaining how to fit the t shirts because this post is long enough as is. Just google it.

Get a nice suite even if it is just a 150 buck men's warehouse suite. Get it tailored also women notice that stuff.

Get a decent blazer and get it tailored also. get some jeans that fit you. Not super tight skinny jeans nor baggy loose jeans. They should fit snugly but not strangling your balls. Comfort is key. get a pair of boots, a pair of trainers, and a pair of loafers to give you options with footwear. Get a nice bathrobe, aim for 2. I always go into my bathroom and change into my robe when I bring women over. It makes things much simpler. Plus I pretty much always wear my robe when I'm not outside. You can mix and match your cloths and create many combinations by just having a few pieces that color co-ordinate well together. Get a high end belt.

General rules, I don't mix patterns like wearing stripes with paisley or something. My belt color always matches my shoe color.

Dress with edge. (usually fashion ads are selling sex... Not fashion. I'd stay away from those.)

Be unique. I have a friend of mine who owns a print company. I have all my shirts and hoodies made with custom print so I don't look like every other douche bag in a club wearing the same Affliction shirt. Start making some connections

And accessorize as much as you can. Try using different tattoos, piercings if it is something that you can fit into your normal everyday life. I have my labret pierced and I typically get alot of attention due to that alone. Necklaces, bracelets, watches, earrings, shit... I wear a rubber bracelet that is black and red for diabetes support and another one that yellow and says "LEMONHEAD" on it.

You don't have to buy expensive clothes... just make sure they are clean and again... edgy

Hope this helps you out bro.

If you have 5 minutes to start off with in the morning you can get ripped and strong!

After you do this do a fitness test immediately. Here is what to do.

When you wake up in the morning roll out of bed crouch down in this position:

but I keep my knees between my arms.

Jump up into the air as high as you can. What I do while in the air is visualize myself descending to the earth from the sky like a meteor with fire and stuff all around me. I used to see myself crashing into the earth and causing a creator, but that's a bit destructive. Now I land in the ocean. You want to land softly so you don't fuck up you ankle or knee.

Land in the super hero 3 point pose in real life:


While in the ocean A giant version of Dory from finding Nemo starts swimming around my head. Repeating "Just keep Swimming, just keep swimming." Her smile, enthusiasm, and encouragement make me feel great.

I reach the bottom of the ocean and start taking small consistent steps in an image like this:


When as I'm walking up the path an orange appears in front of me. I grab the orange and literally feel the feeling of holding it. I start to peel the orange and can smell the citrus of the peal. Then I eat the orange and literally taste it. Can you imagine taste, smell, and touch? If you can't yet just practice it's like any other skill.

That last part about the small steps leading up to the orange is a memory peg. Look up "How to develop a perfect memory" by dominic o'brien. It goes perfectly with your personality.

Anyway, the symbols represent these two phrases: "Small consistent steps lead to great things.", and "The hardest part is getting started, but once you peel back those initial layers things become easy."

How many times have you spend hours days months procrastinating only to find out the thing you were avoiding was really easy and just took a little of your time?

if you only can jump 2 inches in the air then jump those 2 inches, and do that. Wake up every morning doing that. It sets the tone for the rest of the day.

Now for the 5 minute work out. Push ups, Chin ups, low plank, 123 Hysmans, and squats.

Here is how. Do some push ups right now. Count how many you do and do them until they become slightly difficult. Only slightly difficult. This is your base number. it could be 60 it would be 5. Mine was 30 when I started in november.

So if yours is 5, then after your jump visualization and landing (you will want to include stretching here) you do 5 push ups, get into a low plank position and hold it for 5 seconds, 5 - squats, and 5 - 123 Heismans). Don't worry about being intense because you can injure yourself, just hit the numbers. (then do another stretch)

When those 5 push ups become extremely easy increase the number by 5. so now you're doing 10 of each. The order of the other workouts after the push ups don't matter. You do 1 chin up for every 5 push ups you can do. If you can only do 5 push ups you'll do 1 pull up.

Repeat that pattern for the rest of your life. Right now I'm up to 90 easy push ups, only 2 months later I've become 3x as strong. 18 pull ups

It's a full body workout that targets everything in small unnoticeable increments. It won't feel like your doing anything at first but gradually over time you'll be hitting numbers like me easily and you will be cut and ripped everywhere, along with gaining some mass if you pack in the right proteins each day.

I have 7 stretches I do. I used to only do 5 but in the process I caught a slight injury and realized I needed to stretch another muscle group (my hip flexors) in order to make this work properly.

Bicep stretch, triceps stretch, chest stretch, quadriceps stretch, I bend over keeping my legs slightly bent reaching for my toes, Hip flexor stretch,

Airplane:


I only spend about 10 seconds on each stretch. Take every Sunday off. Initially the entire process takes less than 5 minutes of your time each morning. Even now, even at 90 it still only takes me less than 15 minutes in my entire day.

If you wake up one day feeling muscle soreness in your chest then skip the work outs until the soreness goes away. Then pick up where you left off.

You won't find this anywhere in the world. A workout program that targets your entire body and with light cardio, balance, and flexibility in under 5 minutes.

2 months I've become 3 times as strong basing it off the number of easy push ups I can do. 3 times as strong! It's nothing. 5 minutes.

Day 1 - Chest, triceps, shoulders, abs.
Day 2 - Upper + lower back, biceps.
Day 3 - Legs + abs (again).
Day 4 - Cardio.

(i am currently bulking)!

But if you are going for it, go 100% in, count calories, i recommend using My Fitnesspal", it calculates your macros, all protein, carbs, fat, calories and so on. Hit the gym hard, i workout 4 days a week. Eat a 200-500 calories surplus for maximum musclegrowth, sleep enough and train right.
I run a 4-split:
monday - chest and tricep
Tuesday- legs and abs
wednesday- back and biceps
thursday- shoulders and traps.

Extreme cuts are a pain to get used to produce rapid results
you mentioned you weighed something around 220lbs im not sure but im not going to check so thats what i gonna work with.

Establish your BMR. BMR is your basal metabolic rate or the rate at which your body burns calories at rest. Its also the starting point of your calories which you will adjust to cut down....so to make it easy im not going to explain it but if you have a slow metabolism multiply your weight by 14 and if you have a fast metabolism multiply by 16.

If you are 27% fat then chances are you have a slow metabolism so 220x14=3080 calories is your bmr that means you can eat upto that amount and if you are moderately active you wont change much in weight if you eat less then you loose weight if you go over then you gain weight.

Extreme weight loss involves cutting down calories by 2 so 3080/2=1590 calories that is how much you can eat per day. At that rate you can expect to lose 1lb of pure fat not weight its easy to lose weight simply dont drink liquids and dehydrate yourself and walla youre down 5lbs, fat is a little more resilient.


Now cutting down fast involves a cutting down carbs, I can go into why but the basis of biology you would need to understand are a little complicated and i dont expect you to keep up with me so im not going to explain it if you wish to know you can contact me.

1 gram protein=4calories
1 gram carbs=4calories
1 gram fat=9calories

You will now set your total carbs to 20% of you cutting calories in this case 1590*.2= 318 calories from carbs

Now you will set your protein to 1gram per lean bodyweight you said was 187, so 1 gram of protein has 4 calories so 187*4= 748 calories from protein

So far we have 748 from protein and 318 from carbs which adds up to 1066 calories. Fat will be used to fill in the rest its important to note that good sources of fat actually have a profound impact on fat loss and enhance it tremendously, good sources include fish oil, avocados, wide variety of nuts, whole eggs, coconut oil, olive oil etc.

1590-1066=524calories from fat
524/9=58 grams of fat
318/4=80 grams of carbs
748/4=187grams of protein

if split up into 4 meals a day thats
14 grams of fat
20 grams of carbs
47 grams of protein

sample meal
2 whole chicken breast
2 slices of ezekiel bread
2 teaspoon of almond butter

or

11 egg whites
2 slices of cheese
1 slice of whole grain toast

Build an emotional connection through your hard throbbing cock.
Build trust and comfort by holding their hands and covertly rubbing your elbows on their nipples.

When I walk in I step in like I own the place for real. The doorway into the club. I imagine a giant block of ice. I crash through that shit like the Juggernaut. Then I stand there with awesome body language and survey the landscape. The closest girl who noticed my entrance will be looking at me. I walk over and open her up and chat for a few minutes. This is a throw away approach to build my talkative state. As I'm talking to her I'm looking for someone else to talk to. It doesn't matter if it's a man a woman or a group. They should be fairly close. It also doesn't matter if they are looking at me. If they aren't looking at me I simply tap on the shoulder and open. If they aren't up for a quick 30 second to 3 minute friendly conversation and some light kino I just move on to someone else as quickly as possible.

After about 10 minutes I have this playful talkative state the entire night. Then I just keep moving through the entire place opening when I feel like it dancing when I want to. I never stand still by myself sipping on my drink or whatever. You have no idea who is watching you in the club. There are so many eyes on me from the start due to how I go in that I just don't know. The only times I'm stationary is if I'm talking to someone, dancing (alone or with a woman, if you dance alone pay no attention to anyone around you and women will flock around you), or buying a drink. Other than that... It's constant movement.

I'll sometimes go stationary with a 4th situation. I claim territory in the club. If you get a nice spot where you can be seen by everyone and you stand firm, and socialize with the people who come into your territory interesting things happen.

You'll have guys who will try and move you out of your place. (Annoying fucking haters) Just cold shoulder these fools and don't move an inch. They will literally walk up and say say excuse me so they can walk their path through your spot, even though there is space to go around you. Even if there isn't space don't move. make them move someone else. Make sure when your choosing this spot that it makes logistical sense for these assholes to walk around you.

I've even had guys walk up and tell me to move before and I responded with a smile and a cold shoulder.

After dealing with that you'll notice a perimeter of space form around you. This becomes your territory. People will be afraid to get too close because they know you will engage them, and they're nervous, AA. This is where the fun comes in. While maintaining your position you aren't looking to hit on women. Just claim some territory.

Women will begin to hover around you in groups. Some more confident ones will enter into your territory in hopes you will talk to them. A few will attempt to move you out of your spot. A challenge test, don't budge for these women either. After you do an approach or two some non-hater guys start hovering around your territory. They see you engaging these groups of women, or are attracted to the flocks of women that are around you. You can open the guys and then make the guys wing you when you go for the groups of women if they are cool and positive.

This will only work if you stand out in some way. Like wearing a suit in a hood club, or something eye catching so people become aware of the whole thing. It works on a lesser level if you don't peacock, but the more outlandish you look the more powerful this technique becomes. Just don't give off that "weird freak" vibe.

If you walk off to approach or get a drink there is a chance a guy or group of guys will steal your spot. I don't know if this is conscious or subconscious, but they are like vultures. What I do is when I get back to my territory I engage the guys, reposition myself where I stood, and then cold shoulder them if they are assholes. And get back to sipping on my drink and watching the women in the club present themselves to me.

Only claim territory after you've built up your talkative state. Otherwise you will be coming from a weak position, and people will see that. Then you will have a terrible night.

This will only work if you aren't a pussy because people will challenge the fuck out of you.

In contrary to the old Eminem song don't lose yourself...in PUA techniques and tactics. Make sure the technique you use is serving your identity and not you serving the technique. What do I mean by that?

When we show up here all we want to know is how to get results or be less lonely and bring women into our lives. Guys immediately pipe up and tell you what "techniques" to use or work with that will bring results. The reason for this is simple --- the shit works. The problem is these are techniques typically made up by someone else. It was congruent to the original author of them but not to you. Still we can go out we can replicate these techniques as that original author right? We can Neg, we can DHV, we can kino, we can run a best friends test, left handed fluffy bunny routine or whatever and we can make it work consistently with the right practice of the technique.

Many many guys start to conform their identities into something that they didn't mean to be based on those techniques and then aren't truly ever satisfied. They have a pink mohawk, some nice shoes, feathers on their belt, and they are in the club every weekend pulling girls but aren't happy. Well if we aren't happy then what the hell is the point of all this work?

If you are a guy that likes to relax and chill out and stuff then don't put yourself in those high stimulus environments with clubs and dance floors unless you are just doing it to learn a skill to be well rounded or whatever. Then in that case once you get consistent results stop, and move on.

Everyone keeps getting pointed to start at the technique. Go to the technique and do this, or if you do that technique this way then you'll get results.

Instead I think we need to start telling guys coming in, "Look you need to figure out your identity first then you can start tailoring these techniques and pick out what you want almost like a buffet line of PUA techniques and ideas." There is plenty of stuff centered around online, day, night, high energy environments, low energy environments, relationships, single night lays, or just about whatever you want right?

That's hard I know because guys come in here wanting a "quick fix" for their problems for the lack of women in their lives or how to get the one girl right. They don't want to hear you need to build your identity they want the magic pill that bags them a babe with some magic words whispered in the girls ear.

So many guys I've seen come and go and they haven't established an identity for themselves, they have no sense of themselves, and no self expression. They say I'll be whoever I need to be to get the girl. I'll act like whoever to get a laid. Then when the results come it is cheapened in some ways because it wasn't you and your congruent stories and your techniques that got the girl, it was some PUA who wrote a book or whose video you watched, or someones advice from here. It never feels completely real. Sure it feels good in the short term while you're kissing her but long term it doesn't work out so well.

Establish your identity figure out for yourselves who you are, what are you passionate about, your insecurities, the things you are attracted to about women, the things you are not attracted to, and what you want no matter how crazy it sounds to anyone else, and then go for it. Only then start picking those things that compliment your identity and how YOU want to meet people and live your life.

Own the techniques and tactics that you want to use, don't let them own you. At the end of all your journey ensure you are going to be happy.

This makes total sense. Even to I who uses a calibrated game. The source code of it all is based on my own personality though. I just display different aspects of myself to girls who resonate with the different parts of me.

That being said I'll tell a congruent story with the post.

My avatar is a black version of an anime Character Named Itachi.

In his final battle he met an individual he had great empathy for... A man named Kabuto.

Kabuto was an orphan from a warring period. He had been found adopted by an orphanage while very very young. Where he was given the name kabuto. He wasn't a baby when adopted and spent years wandering as a nameless child.

He left the orphanage and joined a black ops ninja unit. Here he assumed different fake identities and worked as a spy in other countries. Later on a secret mission he killed someone who had a mask on. The person he killed happened to be the person who had adopted him and gave him his name. The leader of the black ops unit knew it all along before he sent Kabuto on the mission.

This tragedy made Kabuto go down a path of darkness and he latched unto someone named Orochimaru as his next guiding force in the world.

Orochimaru was a snake incarnate. A nasty ninja who sought immortality and wanted to learn every technique in existence. Betraying everyone who ever cared about him to obtain it. Orochimaru was killed eventually and Kabuto found himself without a guide again.

Kabuto then tried to fulfill Orochimaru's dream and took on the path Orochimaru walked. He learned and perfected all of the techniques that Orochimaru studied. One of which was implanting the cells of other people into himself in order to use their skills and techniques that were specific to their bloodlines. He became an abomination after altering his dna. He then raised the dead and helped start a world war!

Kabuto had no identity of his own. He was just a combination of a bunch of different personalities and techniques and life circumstances. He also tried to walk the path of someone else in what he thought that other person wanted. (Orochimaru was resurrected later and he even states that he wanted nothing to do with the war Kabuto started since it had nothing to do with him.)

Itachi, knowing kabuto was nothing more than an orphan who's assumed the identities of others his entire life, wanted to help Kabuto. He defeated him by performing a technique called Izanagi on him.

Izanagi stuck Kabuto in an infinite loop where he experienced the same situation indefinitely. The only way to escape it was to accept the lesson the Itachi wanted him to learn. The lesson for Kabuto was to understand who he was, and form his own identity. To walk his own path.

This story has many parallels with the OP. While walking this path of pick up it's important for you not to make the mistake Kabuto did and try to assume the identities of others. If you go down that rabbit hole too long you'll wake up one day not knowing what you are.

Most men have no boundaries.

The fact of the matter is that by virtue of simply being hot, a woman can get away with anything she wants with most guys. How attractive is that? That's why the 'neg' was even invented. Another way to hide the fact that you only care that she is attractive and have zero standards.

In any case, the first step is to ask yourself who's values you live by - yours, or society's? Ask yourself, is the epitome of achievement having a hot girlfriend? Only you know the answer.

Sit down and find out what kind of woman you want. Sit down and find out what kind of girl you do NOT want. Once that's done (and this is the tough part), you have to have the courage to genuinely see this through! What that means is to not break your own values no matter how hot she might be.

Qualifying? not even a phase anymore - you're genuinely trying to find out if she can fit into your life. Willingness to walk away? - test me and I will. You will naturally have that laid-back attractive vibe because you are no longer needy; she has to live up to your standards.

And don't do this as some tactic. Do it because life is short, life is beautiful and its worth spending with people that make you happy...

I started getting into pickup when my girlfriend at the time and I broke up.I was feeling like I needed to thaw myself out into the dating scene after being away for a while. Seeing as I read a lot it was natural that I found books on the subject of seducing women and that opened me up to all of this pickup artist stuff. Now at first it was great. I devoured books and instructional videos on the subject and became obsessed with trying to meet women. Everything was good at this point. I'd go up to the mall or the library with a friend walking in circles just to find women to break the ice with. It was fun even though it was neurotic and compulsive because I felt I was practicing. My emotions weren't invested in what I was doing in the name of desensitizing myself to approaching. This seems to be the nature of all pickup teaching in the community. Try the next thing until you master it. If you fail, its practice if you don't its a success, all action give you xp points. As Isaid this was great until iI became comfortable with approaching and good at naturally attracting a woman but once it got to the point of going out with these women or being alone I found there was no neurotic, impulsive function to help me through it. People gave advice on what to do in specific situations but none of it helped because it isn't of the same nature as meeting women. My feeling is that the pickup community needs to put more emphasis on emotion. Its common to see advice given saying "oh, you'll get past that when you learn to not give a fuck." In all seductive matters you should give a fuck. You should not fuck women that you aren't at least a little emotionally curios about. You do yourself a disservice every time. The top priority should always be to spend time seducing women you have compatible emotional interests in and not wasting your time with those emotionless The current ideology on these forums is geared toward becoming emotionless so that your free to shamelessly do as you please in the name of progress. What do you guys think? Has anyone else ran into problems of feeling too rigid or emotionless.

You made a good point that i think deserves to be answered.

First of all, when you entered the pua community you had a goal, right? For some is to fuck as many women as possible, for others is to take revenge on the other sex for what some of them has done to them (it's not nice, I know, but there are those people as well in the community) and then there are people like me that want to have some fun, but then settle with one girl and have a family.

Because of what you said, I would say you are in my same category.

So, let's go back from where I started: I was shy, introverted and it wasn't easy for me to make friends, gfs even worse! I would have a crush all the time which stopped me to go after girls that for some misterious reason wanted me. Then I got into the pua community. Everything changed. As you did, I read many books, watched videos and tried to understand everything the gurus where saying. Then I understood I had to go out there and try it out, but my AA stopped me every single time. That's why in order to succeed I needed help. A couple of my friends did as wingmen for me and that's when I really started to apply everything I had learned. I understood I had to desenzitize myself in order to not fall in love with these girls, but I wasn't a pro, so it happened. I got in three relationships and i really liked all of these girls, but when we eventually broke up, one of them actually hurt me more than the others.

From that point on, I decided to completely desezitize myself from every girl. I decided that I wouldn't have had any more feelings for someone unless I could see she really deserves it. You may say now "haha that's impossible! You can't control your feelings!". Well, you can. Feelings are nothing else than hormones in your body and once you train not to release certain hormones at a given time (thing that you can do, like any other kind of training), you have control over most of your feelings.

So, now I have a lot of success with girls, but I'm completely desezitized from them and am a bit unhappy. Why? Because I'm not going towards my first goal, the one to find a special one (I don't care if you say such people don't exist. I believe in it, that's all that matters to me). What's the solution to this? Opening up. Retrain in order to actually not being able to control my hormones anymore.





So, what is the point of all this story? Well, first of all, you should think about your goal in your dating life and do everything you can to get to it. If then you are like me, that you want someone special, you need to learn to open up again if you are desenzitived to the girls, because that path won't lead you to your objective. If your objective are one night stands, then stay like that.

Hope I helped!

You, my friend, are the only person I've interacted with on this forum that a psychoanalyst would consider "sane". Haha.
Your story was perfect and you sound to be on the right path. But you see how you criticized yourself about "looking for the one"? That's the attitude that Isee perpetuated on these forums and in books. That women are like play do to mold to your image of perfection. The whole idea of a dysfuntcion coined as "one it is" is insane. The problem is you can mold and manipulate women once you crack the code but what else, but vanity do you accomplish once you reach that place. Loving women is the ultimate goal I don't care who you are. Its a dysfunction to not open up, as you were saying. Fear of women and fear of failure seems to be what leads to the dezensitization.

Pretty sure we all have had them. The girl who one texts, the girls who who is too hot for school to give you the time of the day, or the girl who you messed up with and has turned from a green light to a yellow light.

In this post I mention the girl who i messed up with to Eddie.

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I have recently turned it around with that same girl who I messed up with a month ago and man...took awhile to get that yellow light to turn green. My advice to you guys still pursuing the woman who gives you trouble :better practice and reading up on game in the meantime because it will take some time. GAME OTHER CHICKS. Makes it easier while you're working your magic.
If you really want to go through the trouble of getting this one girl, you will need to be in tip top shape because I am pretty sure messing up the second time will be the last.

Maybe it's just me and my game but I JUST recently kiss closed this chick mentioned in the above post today. She has said "cheek only" the last two dates even thought I went for lips.

Mentally I was ready to tackle it again and I have been generating attraction since the messup to today, and it's only Saturday morning. I didn't take her shit. Don't run away from conflict and this results in attraction, women love drama. Remember this. I expect to go further with this girl in the coming weeks. I got this now.


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Same situation, didn't mess up but facebook # closed and been trying to get her to meetup. Once again, St Patties day weekend, did not expect this girl to be texting me of where her location might be. I have been working to getting through that little shield for weeks. I had my chance, went to the club she mentioned, I was a little late because I chose to get a quickie with a f buddy earlier on in the day. By the time I got there, she was already saucy and grinding on some dude and generating attention to herself while other dudes where surrounding her.

I was too sort of late, but maybe it was all in my head. I could have pulled but got in my head again...thinking is detrimental. I danced on the dancefloor (by the way I was alone, i got out of work that day and my friends were already exhausted from drinking earlier) with other girls because at that point, my game has been progressing and I didn't do any verbal asking and just grabbed one girl and started grinding on her.

My target soon leaves and I didn't even say hi. Now, same process I have to start over. Have to schedule another meet again.

Can you turn it around with a girl you screw up with or giving you trouble? Possibly. Except, it will take work and it is up to you to decide whether it is worth it. Personally, I like the challenge and it makes picking up other girls who are receptive a little easier. If you get the first date or any green, make sure to give it to her good. Because if you drop the ball...expect to get pushed back and start the progress over again.