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 Post subject: Re: What is cheating?
PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2017 6:11 am 
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Pretty simple stuff.

Cheating: Breaking the boundary of exclusivity in a devious manner.

Green light: A pre-set relationship boundary in which you are allowed to fuck another person "approved" of by both parties in an exclusive relationship, almost always under the same roof/room. My gf and I have this, and it's great. We have a "date" with a 25 year old woman on Saturday.

I like this arrangement because it satisfies the male desire to experience "new" from time to time.

Open relationship: A pre-set relationship boundary in which you can see who you want with less oversight from your partner.

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Pretty simple stuff.

Cheating: Breaking the boundary of exclusivity in a devious manner.

Green light: A pre-set relationship boundary in which you are allowed to fuck another person "approved" of by both parties in an exclusive relationship, almost always under the same roof/room. My gf and I have this, and it's great. We have a "date" with a 25 year old woman on Saturday.

I like this arrangement because it satisfies the male desire to experience "new" from time to time.

Open relationship: A pre-set relationship boundary in which you can see who you want with less oversight from your partner.

These girls are just fuck buddies yes?

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Nope.

The woman hit on me outside the gym. I told her I had a girlfriend, she said she likes girls, too. Number closed, then set up a meet after informing my girlfriend.

Should be interesting.

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Nope.

The woman hit on me outside the gym. I told her I had a girlfriend, she said she likes girls, too. Number closed, then set up a meet after informing my girlfriend.

Should be interesting.
Right, but what if your girlfriend wanted to bring a man to do the bedroom? Or fuck another guy in general. Would you be cool on that?

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I'd be open to it as long as it was under the same roof, and I was cool with the guy.

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Right, but what if your girlfriend wanted to bring a man to do the bedroom? Or fuck another guy in general. Would you be cool on that?
Geez how many times have I heard that stupid "AHA I FOUND A FLAW IN YOUR SYSTEM" question...

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Geez how many times have I heard that stupid "AHA I FOUND A FLAW IN YOUR SYSTEM" question...
You probably interpret it wrong, as you do in this scenario.

Most guys will have no problem with a FMF but will throw a fit on the subject of MFM.

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 Post subject: Re: What is cheating?
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I think cheating is just betraying your partners trust according to what ever ground rules you made, there are obviously different shades of grey for this for different people. Like for example for me personally it's physical displays of affection or hanging out with a guy alone who I know is interested and doing so without my approval.


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Most guys will have no problem with a FMF but will throw a fit on the subject of MFM.
There's no intrinsic problem with that (liking FFM but not MMF). If you don't like to have another guy in your bed, it's still not unethical to just have FFM threesomes.

The thing you were hinting at, as far as your response reads, is inequality in boundaries. Most people I know who practice openness in any degree, have equal boundaries in their relationship. Most smartasses who learn about this openness come up with the "Yeah but you wouldn't like your partner doing that, would you?" argument. Hence my "geez."

That being said some open couples have different boundaries for the two partners, and that seem reasonable too. After all, a woman can have sex with way less effort than a guy, or often a guy will have a stronger impulse to have sex outside the primary relationship, so there are "natural" imbalances between the two partners, that a difference of boundaries can take into account.
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I think cheating is just betraying your partners trust according to what ever ground rules you made.
A lot of people mentioned boundaries or ground rules, though the funny thing is, close to zero couple actually discuss these rules and boundaries.

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There's no intrinsic problem with that (liking FFM but not MMF). If you don't like to have another guy in your bed, it's still not unethical to just have FFM threesomes.

The thing you were hinting at, as far as your response reads, is inequality in boundaries. Most people I know who practice openness in any degree, have equal boundaries in their relationship. Most smartasses who learn about this openness come up with the "Yeah but you wouldn't like your partner doing that, would you?" argument. Hence my "geez."
I didn't "learn" about this openness. I practice it.
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That being said some open couples have different boundaries for the two partners, and that seem reasonable too. After all, a woman can have sex with way less effort than a guy, or often a guy will have a stronger impulse to have sex outside the primary relationship, so there are "natural" imbalances between the two partners, that a difference of boundaries can take into account.
As long as it's not double standards.

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That being said some open couples have different boundaries for the two partners, and that seem reasonable too. After all, a woman can have sex with way less effort than a guy, or often a guy will have a stronger impulse to have sex outside the primary relationship, so there are "natural" imbalances between the two partners, that a difference of boundaries can take into account.
As long as it's not double standards.
If "difference of boundaries" is not double standards then explain me how you define double standards...

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If you have no problem being sucked off by another woman in a FMF with your girl, then you can't throw tantrums when she asks for a MFM because you couldn't "stand the sight of her being fucked by another guy".

That's a double standard.

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In my opinion cheating isn't about what you think is acceptable, it's about what your partner thinks is acceptable.


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If you have no problem being sucked off by another woman in a FMF with your girl, then you can't throw tantrums when she asks for a MFM because you couldn't "stand the sight of her being fucked by another guy".

That's a double standard.
Why do you think double standards are a bad thing?

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Because they stem from insecurity, immaturity or lack of cognitive ability.

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