This thread is partly inspired by this one
. Aside from that there's my personal issue with the term.
Neo puts it into perspective here:
Please....could we stop using the term shit test? I'm actually concerned that no one who talks about them knows what they are, the term has lost its meaning and it's just the Pua version of people saying the illuminati to explain something or theorize something. No offense op but your definition encompasses a girl telling a guy to fuck off, a girlfriend flirting in front of her bfs face, a girl on a date teasing you, a girl asking a legitimate question.All different situations but I see guys dumping all sorts of shit into this shit test bucket. It's detrimental because it makes newbies laugh off red flags as well as over complicate or respond weirdly to a girl asking a simple question.
Guys post here about girls asking them over. About girls giving them compliments. About girls blatantly disrespecting or otherwise insulting them and they all come under the same name. Shit
Let's get something straight. This term was brought to the community by the same so called guys that brought you NLP, routines, attraction phases, negs, boyfriend destroyers and so on.
These were the guys like Tyler. They focused all their time and energy on appearing
attractive rather than becoming
attractive because people, for the most part are lazy fucks. They'll pay for magic shortcuts because the alternative requires some real effort.
Now here's the thing
. If you get snide remarks, it's for one of two reasons.
Either it's issued as
a playful challenge.
It's outright disrespect. Sometimes you deserve it, other times you're talking to a social idiot.
If it's a playful challenge, it's not a shit-test
. It's flirting.
If you're talking to a social idiot, like neo said, it's not a shit
-test. It's a red flag.
And if your own ways of communicating with women turn them off to the degree that they bypass their default 'let him down nicely' mode, guess what, it's still not a shit
-test. She's already flagged you as
unworthy of her time. She's not testing your resolve, she's being purely hostile.
-test is an excuse. The excuse used to justify the short comings of a flawed ideology. Because it's easier to tell a customer "you failed her shit
test" rather than it is to tell him "our methods don't work". Go figure.
Also, here's some wisdom from Jack:
The effort of reacting to them is ALWAYS defensive and takes away from your power.
The only thing
that comes even remotely close to being tested is when people scan for compatibility. And if you're not compatible with her, she's not compatible with you. However if you still feel the need to justify or react to that, you are, in essence, being needy and insecure in your own self.As
a final note, most of you guys would be far better off if you'd take more things at face value instead of going on intense mental masturbation sessions.
An interested woman will find 25 hours in a day for you.