Jack will use words. He'll try and find points I've contradicted myself, pour through my old posts to tear me down, rather than build himself up.

But all he really has to do is find one of his many hot girls, and have them send a message, like my girl. Should be easy, right?

I mean, after all, Jack knows women, and I don't.

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Show proof that your game works. The game that you talk isn't the game that got this girl.

Things Arch Stanton said about his current girlfriend: You ignore texts with her, but that works and even if she thought you were butthurt, she still shown up. When you meet someone you like, you are outcome dependent. The fact that your entire post was about her thinking that she gets her way with you shows that she didn't view you as dominant and you actually were worried if she found out that she wasn't the one in control of the situation.

I have plenty of pictures, but pictures don't tell a whole story. However...you told the story with the one girl that you've been bragging about since the entire time you've been here and it's not reflective of how you tell guys to act.

But since you have this need for proof...here are a few different girls to hold you over.

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Jack, rather than tear me down, why don't you build yourself up?

Show us the proof that your game actually attracts a woman.

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If you didn't contradict yourself then there wouldn't be any issues. But are you happy? Did I build myself up? I didn't need to get messages...I've got pics of me and girls together.

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I don't see any images....

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There you go. Try again.

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Now Arch, explain how you got your girlfriend without appearing dominant, being emotional, and ignoring her text.

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Those pics could be anyone, and they're in public places....

Doesn't say much, really. Can't tell if the girl is fit, either.

But hey, you are Jack Zero, so getting a photo that actually proves your game works should be easy. You have fit girls in your place, right?

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Damn Arch. Anything to keep from talking about the the advice you give vs. what you really do. Everything that you say that all the 9's and 10's run from is what you've done for the one girl that you have. You're emotional. You didn't have a dominant frame. You punished her for not being compliant. You're outcome dependent. Yet you still got the girl. Explain how that works.

I posted pictures with girls I've been with at your request. That's not good enough for. you and now you want me to post pictures of them inside and you want to verify their fitness. If you explain how you got your girl while not following your methods which you claim work...I'll post some nudes of two of those three girls (blurred in the right places, of course).

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It's funny, because you could say the same thing abt ignoring her. Ignoring her can irritate her, make her wonder. Replying even in a relaxed way can signal "Ok, I'll try again later and I'm just a NICE guy who wishes you well." It kinda depends on whether she is interested or not. Her msg does not really require a response nor prompts one
I wont respond; just because she essentially ended the convo. Also, didnt ignoring work in your instance Arch?

You make some good points, which proves that the action is all up to context.

Ignoring worked in my case because I had sex with the woman and she liked it.

I don't think the OP has had sex with this girl, which is why i recommend the more chill response than no response.

I like the "planting seed" theory for fence girls.

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So it's okay to act butthurt and emotional after you've had sex with a woman as long as she likes the sex?

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Arch, ending communication is not / does not have to be an emotional reaction.

OP asked her out. She said she can't go. That's not a conversation ended because of undesired outcome. It's a conversation concluded. The exchange is done. Any need of OP's to continue it is compensation and outcome dependency.
A chill response would make more sense if he actually had sex with her. Like I said earlier, give people what they've earned. No more, no less.

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I ended up responding with "cool, have fun. I'll hit you up later" before R.C's post stating not to reply.
I didn't get a reply back, and I'm not expecting one. I just feel like I gave her the power after sending that text. I haven't even touched that girl, so she didn't deserve the chill response. I wasn't going to reply to her initially but I convinced myself that it was the cool thing to do. Regardless of the outcome with this girl, I'm going to move on to the next girl on my list. Plenty of fish in the sea right? Will start fresh with the right vibe from date #1 using the tips given throughout this thread on teasing/flirting.

No one has the power, because nothing exists to have power over. Nothing ever happened between you two.

Your reaction was very cool. *as long as you refrain from contacting her for a couple weeks*.

You don't have a choice, lol. You did the right thing, now enjoy the next girl.


It obviously sounds like the girl who said no to the last date was a girl you found very attractive. The problem was, you wasted her time with lame dates. She probably just wanted to fuck.

When you text "Cool, have fun I'll hit you up later", when a girl rejects you, you're not acting like most guys. Most guys would have responded like this:

You: Let's hang out.
Her: Sorry, I'm busy that night.
You: Come on, it will be fun!
You: Hey, still alive????

Or:

You: Let's hang out.
Her: Sorry, I'm busy that night.
You: I dislike girls who waste my time, or disrespect me.


You're acting like a man who has options. And when you don't contact her later, she'll wonder why (is something wrong with me? Did he find someone else?).

And sometimes, when you turn a girl off by wasting her time (three lame ass dates, no escalation), your indifference will turn her back onto you, and she'll hit you up down the road.

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