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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:20 pm 
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I'm not specifically talking women here, but to be a person of status and respect? I could start to better my health, attend technical college, try to get a min wage job I can tolerate(like a desk clerk) and be able to finance a car. And maybe join some clubs the rich go to. But that's where it ends. What do I do after that? After all, PUA is about picking up acquaintances, friends, and jobs right? This is my point, how do I get the experience and cred(the who you know not what you know experience) to move up the ladder?


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I'm not specifically talking women here, but to be a person of status and respect? I could start to better my health, attend technical college, try to get a min wage job I can tolerate(like a desk clerk) and be able to finance a car. And maybe join some clubs the rich go to. But that's where it ends. What do I do after that? After all, PUA is about picking up acquaintances, friends, and jobs right? This is my point, how do I get the experience and cred(the who you know not what you know experience) to move up the ladder?

Everything you just said you could do, were all material things.

Being a elite is more of a mindset, understanding sociology, and un-conditioning yourself from a lot of mainstream societal beliefs.

Really a elite pick-up-artist is someone that creates and innovates their own game, where the success rate of using it, never goes below 90%.

If I had to put a time-frame on it, the perfect learner someone that is going to try and progress and do pick-up all day everyday, I would say to be a ''ELITE" someone could do it in a year.

My elite could also be different than yours, my elite is someone that can get any women superstar, rich, model, they want, either for one night, or for a relationship.

You can do amazing things in 1 month max, and even crazier shit you would never have believed you could do, possible, in 6 months.

I grew up in Miami, A place where some of the most elite and greatest PUA's, have come and gone to non stop, and still do.

If you want to meet other pua's Id suggest posting your contact information on forums like this in the ''WING'' section of your city, and start looking for wings to go sarge with in your local city.

Most elite puas, you'll have to pay, but not all of them, the most elite are the ones you've never heard about, if your really lucky, you'd get the privilege of sarging with one.

A lot of the mainstream guys, or up and comers, do it for multiple reasons, mostly money, but usually money and other insecurities.

There are however some of us, that just love the sport, and to see the magic happen, one, never once, was
able to achieve.

I've helped many friends, and regular guys, get instant results, that they never knew, they were capable of, and seeing the amazement and happiness on their face.

That my friend to me is priceless, and meaningful, something money can't buy.


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Yes, it takes years.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 7:17 pm 
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This is my point, how do I get the experience and cred(the who you know not what you know experience) to move up the ladder?
Well, I'm 20 and I opened up my first business recently. I won't lie, it's been hard, but the thing is, it's what really interests me -- to the point that even if I made no money I'd still be doing it, day in and day out. Some nights I work till 3AM in the morning.

You don't push yourself to success, you get pulled towards it.

In the four months that I've been working, I made more money than many people do in a year. I've taken every dollar and reinvested it right back into my company. I've invested in my health by going to the gym 4 times a week religiously. I've invested in my relationships and dating. I've invested in my mind by making an effort to read one personality-developing / knowledge enhancing book a week.

You've got to take your shit seriously. No one can tell you how to move up the ladder -- otherwise everyone would be a high status successful fucker. You have to find out what you're passionate about and delve into it and add value to the world around you.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 9:52 pm 
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Yes, it takes YEARS. I've been at it for almost three and I've made little to no progress!


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Yes, it takes YEARS. I've been at it for almost three and I've made little to no progress!
Is this a consistent three or a ''On and Off'' three years?


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Yes, it takes YEARS. I've been at it for almost three and I've made little to no progress!
You're an exception. You're doing it very, very wrong.

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This is a life change thing

The guys that result with gym is that they make it part of their routine. They don't have to drag themselves to it, they have just become that person and enjoy it

Same with self-help. You don't have to mentally drain yourself each day but you just become addicted to improving small incremental changes that develop a compound interest effect over time.

Stop watching mindless TV and video games. I feel guilty if I don't do something productive for my life per day. I really can't connect with people that watch TV soaps and watch them again on catch up TV.

These same people are the ones that say they never time for anything

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What are you asking....?

Do you understand how weird of a question this is? There is ALWAYS going to be some other guy who's slept with more girls than you. There's always going to be someone who makes more money than you. There is always going to be someone who has more "status" than you do.

The secret to being "elite" with girls is not giving a shit about being "elite" in any of those other categories that society pushes you to thrive in and living a life that makes you happy.

Stop seeing money as a symbol of status and start seeing it as a resource to accomplish and build the things you want out of life. Stop worrying about if other people think your friends are cool and spend time with the people you enjoy spending time with.

You only live once. Meaning you're going to fucking die some day. Average lifespan is like 70 some years. If you're lucky, you'll be able to make it that long. Chasing after some superficial bullshit life that your parents and teachers forced on you your entire life.


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This is a life change thing

The guys that result with gym is that they make it part of their routine. They don't have to drag themselves to it, they have just become that person and enjoy it
So true.


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Stop watching mindless TV and video games.
Golden advice.


1. Get in shape (not Johnny Treadmill Granola shape, but weight lifting, get some muscle...a ripped physique will have you banging hot 20-somethings in your 40's while your peers look back fondly on "the good old days" when they see attractive women on TV. FUCK THAT.

2. Follow your passion, work your ass off.

3. Do not put women on pedestals.

4. Remain emotionally centered around women.

5. Remain playful and charming around women.

6. Always make them cum.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:44 pm 
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It's simple. Until you have something that money can't buy, you're not an elite. And remember money cannot buy you confidence, the best it can buy is a cocky attitude.

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What are you asking....?

Do you understand how weird of a question this is? There is ALWAYS going to be some other guy who's slept with more girls than you. There's always going to be someone who makes more money than you. There is always going to be someone who has more "status" than you do.

The secret to being "elite" with girls is not giving a shit about being "elite" in any of those other categories that society pushes you to thrive in and living a life that makes you happy.

Stop seeing money as a symbol of status and start seeing it as a resource to accomplish and build the things you want out of life. Stop worrying about if other people think your friends are cool and spend time with the people you enjoy spending time with.

You only live once. Meaning you're going to fucking die some day. Average lifespan is like 70 some years. If you're lucky, you'll be able to make it that long. Chasing after some superficial bullshit life that your parents and teachers forced on you your entire life.
Actually they didn't force that on me. They grew up like losers, my family is as simpleton as it can get. And I certainly don't want to fall down their path. I have had people turn on me because I was a loser. Or I was accused of being one. And that's really hurt me inside. So yes I want to get to a point in the ladder.


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