I see, so in your view Eddie one should avoid falling in-love?

When the feeling isn't mutual, yes.

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I can see (and somewhat agree) with what you're saying, but there's a definite difference. I will say though, love (as most people see it) doesn't exist. It's just another word for attraction, investment, and in some cases oneitis.

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If you want to take that ride man, take it. I can't tell you what to do with your life. But what I can tell you is that if you didn't have these overly attached feelings for a girl that hasn't proven herself fully she would respect you more; and this be at the mercy of your direction. But the catch 22 is, once you're in that state, you don't want a relationship.

When a girl likes you enough she's not thinking logical (i'm going to leave soon, no point in trying to lock this guy down), she feels what she feels and wants what she wants despite whether or not it makes sense.

My question to you is; what does it mean to fall in love? Does it mean you just find a girl interesting and like her, or does it mean that you like a girl so much that she no longer has to meet your qualifications before you push things forward with her? From my perspective, when a guy falls in love he stops being objective, and once you stop being objective, you're going to have a problem on your hands. " In Love" is temporary, its momentary. One always likes the other more, and if you're liking her more than she likes you (which you do), she's the one leading the interaction,and if you're allowing her to lead, she's not going to view you as a potential mate. You can't be more emotional than someone who's nature is to be emotional. You've turn off your nature and took on hers, and you can't figure out whats going on here?

She's being logical and objective(more so masculine) "i'm not going to be here long, this makes no sense"

And you're being emotional (feminine) " I like this girl. logistics aren't that important. II'll find a way to make it work"

Stop it.

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I think you have hit the nail on the head Eddie, that's definitely where this whole thing is at with her being objective and me being emotional. The first step in change though is to recognise that it needs to take place, there is room for me to improve on overall game no doubt.

I have taken a step back, given no emotion and she has responded positively. She is a girl that doesn't express much emotion and appears to be very secure.

Eddie, can you recommend any decent overall game material? im going to email you to request a copy of your book as it looks really good.

Take it from me...since I fall into these traps time to time, listen to the advice given..

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Gentlemen,

A brief update on seeing this chick:

Things have been going quite well, seeing each other more and more and are keeping in contact every day.

I read Eddie's book which gave me some good rules to adhere to.

I have held my frame better since my last posts.

I have a question however, last night i was at my work christmas function. She came to join me a little later in the evening. She was stood with me and a guy i work with was chatting with her. I felt as though they were flirting and it made me a little jealous. I didnt show it or say anything however. I just kept being me. After a while we left and went back to her place. She then asks me about this guy, asks me if he has a girlfiend cos he is hot. I just laughed about it and she was like "what?? Im just being honest" and i didnt say much, i then fucked her. So my question is how would the more experienced PUA's handle a situation like that?

My second question is: Is it always 100% certain that a male must take the lead in an LTR? Sometimes i feel as though she is smarter than me and good and making decisions and therefore can battle to be dominant all the time.

Hope everyone is well!

This is only true because you allow it to influence your frame. There are dumb people leading people who are smarter than them everyday. How many employees are more "intelligent" than there bosses? Its not always intelligence that determines effective leadership. So, wipe your ass with that comment and the feelings it gives you.

Personally I would of taken that as a sign of disrespect. Most guys would probably say, "its not big deal, as long as you banged her who cares". But I care more about the respect I know i deserve than I do any one girl. Thats just a crossed boundary for me; that doesn't mean it has to be for you or anyone else. So I would of dropped her and she would of never saw me again, but once again thats just me personally and because thats my attitude, I never have to deal with that kind of behavior from women.

Women are intuitive. You don't have to "show" jealousy for her to know you're jealous. She can sense it. And she can also sense your boundaries and standards. Women know who they can get away with what with and who they can't. And if theres any chance that they'll lose you for crossing a certain line, it will never be crossed. But even if there is a 1% chance that they can still keep you after disrespecting you they may or may not play that card depending on how they feel that day. It has to be no doubt in your mind, body, or soul that you will drop her if she ever disrespects you and she won't.

I always say; The willingness to give second chances is the only reason people fuck up the first time.

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Girl: (Wants to hook up with every guy you bring round her) - This is like the 3rd time

You: (I want this girl to be a LTR)

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I'm sorry man, you bring a chick to a work thing and not only does she flirt, she asks about the other dude? I'm always curious how many guys just dont get turned off from certain signs of disrespect, especially when you felt someway from it. Can a girl ever do anything that just makes you think "oh, that was unattractive behavior...she just lost some points there."?!

Dont get me wrong, if she had tried hooking up with your friends in the past, you guys grew closer and she had slowed down on that, I wont be saying anything. But when you say you've been talking more and seeing each other more and she STILL is looking for new dick right next to you, I gotta ask what is the line where you say, maybe this is not gf material and I shouldnt even be thinking that?

I just had a DTF girl recently tell me that she has about 30% chance of meeting on Tuesday,

I lol'd and told her that I'm not a 30% type of waiting guy and I told her I'm gonna make other plans. She then get pissy and flaked me.

I could of compromised and let her tool me like that and then boinked her. But getting laid at the expense of feeling like a beta chode wasn't worth it.

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Personally I would not be pursuing a LTR with a girl that, as neo said, is looking for new dick basically right next to you. It's not the action itself. Opposite of Eddie, I wouldn't take that as a sign of disrespect simply because this girl would not be in a position to disrespect me in the first place.
But that because she wouldn't be more than a FWB to me. To you however, she's a potential girlfriend. And she's not exactly keen on returning the favor.

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Gentlemen,

Trust you are all doing well.

Little update on the status.

Going very well, I have learnt so much and upped my game immensely since I started seeing this girl. Ive done an awful lot of reading and turns out she slots in the rare subset of a ‘Alpha female’.

She is trustworthy and doesn’t break promises, unemotional & can take a lot of banter.

Im having a great time with her and am glad I didn’t follow the advice to call it off.

Who said not to see this girl?

Yes.