Something I want to share with the young guys just starting out, because they seem to ask the majority of the questions on here. If you are just starting out, your mindset will probably be needy, strictly monogamous and you will get obsessed with the first HB5 who shows you any attention. Hell, you'll probably end up being her boyfriend and wasting YEARS of your teens / 20's in a relationship with a plain jane who treats you like shit.

My motto for you is simple: Do not get into a serious exclusive "I love you" long-term relationship until your 25th birthday at the earliest. By LTR I mean more than a year exclusively dating or longer. Start fucking as many hot women as you can and the moment you start getting soppy "I just want her" feelings for a girl, soft next her immediately and downgrade her either to FWB/fuckbuddy or dump her if you can't handle the strong attachment feelz.

Remember this is a pickup forum. Not a love forum. Not a "how to get a girlfriend so I can just go back to being a lazy chode again" forum. Not a marriage forum. PICKUP. I wasted 8 years of my teens and 20's with 2 women. One girlfriend and a wife. They were HB6's at best and treated me like shit. Because i allowed myself to be treated like shit. And because i craved their attention, affection and validation.

I'll be 30 this year and I'm currently wading knee-deep in hotter poontang I ever could've imagined (too many women, too little time!), my music career is taking off and I'm just radiating masculine sexuality. Any man with a cock and balls is born to be like this naturally. I'm not special; you're not special, PUA coaches are not special. You can be a pimp if you choose to be. You don't learn how to be confident. You unlearn how to be unconfident.

So if you are under 25 in a long-term serious relationship and you're reading this, ask yourself are you REALLY in love with your girlfriend or are you just: 1) scared you won't find anyone better? 2) scared of being lonely? 3) loving the infrequent, boring sex? 4) scared of a change in your circumstances? 5) scared of her reaction if you dump her? 6) scared of what other people will think about your breakup? 7) scared you'll regret dumping her? 8] in denial about her questionable personality and looks? 9) happy to fap to porn when your girlfriend is in bed? 10) scared she'll find someone better?

If you said yes to one, many or all of the above, it's time to dump her or downgrade her. If you're unhappy in your relationship, do the poor girl a favour and stop leading her on. Dump her now and challenge yourself. Stop "settling down" and getting lazy. There'll be plenty of time for that when you're older. No guy in the world ever looks back on his life and says "Gee, i fucked far too many women when i was younger".

Stop waiting to be dumped before moving on. Be a man and take control of your life. You'll only be young once. Don't waste your youth taking shit from women just to get regular sex. Stop crying over girls. Stop wasting time moping around. Just fuck them and replace them if you're not happy. You're the fucking boss! Start acting like it and hotter women will want you.

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I dunno. I've been engaged 10 times. All 10 were mistakes except for one. When the time's right, it's right.

Yo man,

I completely feel you on your post and agree that if someone is in that situation, that they should leave it. I personally would never wife up a girl unless i found her to absolutely beautiful, interesting, and dope in bed. There are plenty of guys that i see totally wasting their time in relationships with ridiculously average women for all the reasons you brought up.

That being said, i really dont think its as black and white as you put it. How can you know that 25 is somehow the marker. If another human being makes you truly happy when youre around them, then why wouldn't you be with them?

I am currently in a relationship with a girl i find to be an absolute HB10. Model face, dope body, and we fuck all the time. at least two to three times a day when were with one another. I find my sex with her to be fantastic. Don't get me wrong here, i have completely indulged myself in fucking some extremely hot women in my short past, but i can honestly say that they all pale in comparison to having sex with my girlfriend. She treats me very well and does shit for me all the time.

So while i do see what youre saying, and agree to an extent, i don't think anyone should impose an age bracket on being happy with another human being.

there are benefits to being in a relationship. Depending on who you go into the relationship with...also helps you find yourself a little. I don't think an age bracket is necessary. Even those over the age of 25 ask the same questions, there isn't a specific age group. Grown men can still be retarded when it comes to women, some men never learn. I agree with some of your opinions, such as if you're in a shitty relationship, then by all means end it. But if you have something good going, take the risk.

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25 at the very least. Settle down too soon and you'll regret not playing the field, thus potentially ruining that perfectly good relationship. The principle of always knowing women are easily replaceable is helpful for newbies.

As for being engaged 10x, just wow. Once was bad enough! Never again!!

The age bracket thing is like setting a goal in business. To teach you to not be needy.

Met my ex when I was 22 spent 16-17 months with her, got too needy and was insecure towards the end of it. Worse thing I did was let go of Pick Up when I met her, I forgot all of the basic teachings and became a complete AFC... She dumped me.

But the best thing to come from being dumped was that I got straight back into Pick Up and it gave me something to focus on and take my mind off the break up. The relationship gave me some essential life experience and through Pick Up realised what I'd done wrong. I know when I choose to commit again that I will do a better job of it.

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So true.

Dude, are you me from another universe? Lol.

Met my ex 2 years ago, aged 23, spent about 20 months together, started off still with at least a basic level of PUA mindset, that all but disappeared after about 7/8 months and then the relationship began to crack. Been single since the start of January after we mutually agreed the relationship wasn't working, although I admit I did kind of push for it to end more than she did in the end. Spent about a month not knowing what to do with myself, then decided getting back into pickup was a good idea, and it was! Only 2 months back in and I turn 25 next week, determined to go above and beyond the quality of my pickup skills I used to have and start enjoying life more!!!

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One thing I must note though, eighteen IS NOT YOUNG.

I know 16 year olds with at least 4 lays under their belts. With different people. As a +-20 y/o you are a latecomer to the game, not a newcomer. Adjust your mindset.

18 is fucking young dude. You shouldn't be fucking girls before you're 16, it's too young and in some countries / states, it's illegal. I still had acne when I was 18.

It doesn't really matter when you start pickup. What matters is how quickly you learn.

Pickup is 18+ material. If you're too young to legally watch porn or R18 movies, you're too young for pickup. PUA is for adults. Anybody on this forum who is under 18 shouldn't be here.

Alright, on one thing I have to agree with you, and that's do not go into a relationship too young.

But what about those guys who have very much trouble into destroying their limiting needy beliefs (like me for instance) and who maybe don't have the tools to change into real seducers (I don't like the term PUA's). Wouldn't it be better for them to settle down if they found the right woman?

And I'm not saying I never have women. I'm aged 20 and so far I've made out with 25-30 women, but only got laid twice. I know from myself that I'm extremely needy and clingy, and trust me, I've been doing this stuff for at least 1,5 year ACTIVELY. It frustrates me a lot that I fail at getting laid, what about a GF that actually gives you some sex once in a while? Seems better than a 8 month dry spell right?

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Settling down is something you can do when you're old or you want to start a family. Not when you're 18.

You're not getting laid because you're not learning from your mistakes. You're so desperate to get a girlfriend that you cannot see women as simply humans with the same desires you have. Some girls just want to fuck. Others want relationships. If you want to cure approach anxiety and dry spells, the only way to do it is cold approach and keep going out until you get better. Challenge yourself. Confidence and risk taking gets you laid. Get good at sex and your confidence will follow. Learn to back off and let the girl chase you a bit.

The best place to be is ground zero. No girlfriend, no sex. Because it gives you the hunger to go out and meet new women. 8 months' worth of experience going out regularly and opening hundreds of sets will improve your core confidence and game far more than clinging to one girl who feeds you pathetic little scraps of sex only when she feels like it, even if you don't get laid for 8 months.