Posted my first FR in like 3 years the other day
this-should-be-a-lr-but-it-s-not-vt176679.html and decided I may as well start a journal as that's what I did the first time I got into pickup and conquered AA etc which is now back with abundance after a near 2 year relationship.
When I got good at pickup before I just did the gung ho method of constant approaching and blow outs etc but without ever working on myself, which I think is ultimately why I regressed, so this time I'm looking to take a slower but hopefully more effective approach in conquering AA and getting back on track.
Just a footnote, I'm gonna use letters/numbers instead of people/place names out of respect for their privacy.
Friday 14/03/2014
I'll keep this one brief as there's really isn't much to say.
Met up with 2 mates at a bar with an awesome jazz band playing, really got me pumped for the night ahead and feeling good. Get to the club/bar (I'll just call it M) and immediately start on the booze
[MISTAKE ONE: Alcohol is not good for gaming (for me), I know this and yet continually go back to it] drinking double whiskey and lemonade....you can probably guess how this night ends up. I make some fluff chat with the bar staff who are slowly beginning to recognise/know me, which is key as I want to build a lot of social proof in this venue as it's the main one I frequent.
First thing I notice, the place is nigh on empty, but I know from experience Friday nights here can be fairly slow at the beginning and pick up later. Unfortunately things get a little hazy here as we chug back drink after drink after drink; although I do recall that the place didn't in the end fill up much. I remember the night approaching closing time and being on the dancefloor with my mates, we're just dancing having a good time and there's a group of girls giving us proximity, now clearly we should have got them involved, instead we just kept to ourselves.
[MISTAKE TWO: It wouldn't have killed me to just extend a arm out to them to dance with us.]
Shortly after this the majority of the girls end up dancing with another group of guys, except one, whom remains close to their bags etc and doesn't seem too interested in staying with her friends; I clock her and think to myself "Maybe she's approachable".
[MISTAKE THREE: Every girl is approachable within reason, and the fact that she was purposely distancing herself from her friends also indicates possible DTF] Alas I didn't approach and shortly after this they left and that was it, no more females left in the place.
Lessons
1) Don't drink, or at least no more than 3. It turns me into a right asshole and I lose all calibration and concentration.
2) I had at least 2 golden opportunities to approach which weren't exactly difficult approaches to make; as well as multiple other women I could have approached throughout the night. Need to break this habit of over-analysing before approaching, 3-second rule etc.
3) This night displays exactly what I need to both reduce and increase. Reduce drinking, increase approaching, plain and simple.
Saturday 15/03/2014
This FR is a fair bit longer and I'm sure some of it is pointless but I like to be detailed haha. If you don't fancy reading all the fluff, the extremely short version of this night is, I had one beer, I ran some game with a girl who has a boyfriend and attempted to read peoples body language.
Reeling from the effects of alcohol the night before I decided to man up and go out anyway but not drink. (I confess I eventually had one beer but that was it, not bad for me) Met up with my mate J and we went straight to Bar M, same as night before. Got there ridiculously early but as there'd been a big sport event on, we knew it would be packed out later on; getting there early was also a chance to chat with the staff some more. On the way we walked past their promo team and one of which is the shots girl who recognised me from the week before when I tried doing a mind reading game with her for a free shot but she knew it haha, point was though, she knew me. The barman recognised me from the previous night and even offered me the same drink, when I asked for a soft drink, I got it half price. So looks like I'm gaining allies in there slowly.
[NOTE: When I was at the top of my game around 3/4 years ago, I knew every barman/woman/doorman in this venue, meaning I could go in on my own and have social proof right away, this is what I'm trying to do again.]
We chill out for a bit just having a general lads chat, eventually another mate of mine (we'll call him P) and his friends turn up and join us. After a short while P see's some ladies he knows and has a chat with them and they join us. The one girl is nicknamed "butterface" on account of she's sleeping her way through P's band, decent body but otherwise I don't find her attractive, the other is quite cute and I decide for practice purposes to run a little game on her (we'll call her E). There's a brief moment where J runs into a girl who he snogged a few weeks earlier, who he broke off contact with when he found out she was 17 not 18 like she'd told him originally (he's 25 and isn't down for that) she's trying to get his attention and starts saying he's ignoring her, he's trying to be a nice guy saying "no I'm not ignoring you" then carrys on, eventually I just say to her "he's ignoring you, deal with it" and she leaves in a huff. I found that situation kinda funny lol.
So we have all the introductions etc and I let them chat away with P and have their little catch up session while I chat with J. At this point I'm just keeping a bit of distance and not doing the usual bright-eyed and bushytailed "GIRLS HAVE ARRIVED" that I see guys doing all the time. After a short while the majority of the group goes to the bar/dancefloor/wherever leaving me J, P and E, so I decide to now start leading the conversation, but only talking in short bursts making sure everything I say is crisp, to the point, witty etc. At one point I hear her mention to P that she has a new boyfriend, who at this point isn't her, I decide to just game her anyway. We start talking about 'Do your best jagger' (search it on youtube) which is a game I got my mates doing years ago and we still do it now (someone shouts do your best jagger and you have to dance like mick jagger for a few seconds), E asks us to demonstrate so I tell P and J to do it, P asks me to do it saying that I'm the best and I decline saying I might do it later and I'm building precious jagger energy right now (talking out my ass, gets some laughs though) I tell E I'm gonna teach her how to jagger better than J. I tell her to close her eyes and she complies, everytime she opens them I tell her to keep them closed (asserting dominance). I tell her to shake her body side to side and purse her lips, now I decide to start kino by taking her hand at moving it jagger style. So we do this for a bit, high five etc. main point being, she's having a lot of fun and is now directing her speech at me; in mid-conversation some people she knows sit by her and are saying hi all excited, as I'm mid-sentence, she actually tells them to shh so she can hear/get back talking to me, she does this 3 times which I take as a big IOI. We still have a logistical issue of her being sat across the table from me, I need her closer to get the kino going more.
Eventually the rest of the group return and I leave for a moment to go to the toilet, I come back and whilst I've been gone she'd been up to the bar, had her seat taken and is now next to my seat...perfect. So I sit back down and immediately notice were doing something weird with her hands, she's attempting to spell P's name (I don't know why) letter by letter, I think for a moment and remember some sign language I was taught in college, so as she's doing that I start saying the alphabet and doing the sign language for it at the same time (DHV) she asks if I speak sign language and I tell her the truth, that I learnt a tiny bit in college and forgot most of it, one that I do remember though is how to ask "where do you live?" which (at least around here) you sign by essentially rubbing your nipple with your middle finger and gesturing with both hands towards your genitalia; she finds it funny and I teach her how to do it, she starts clapping like an excited child and I think at this point, it's on and the boyfriend is not even in her mind..........until he calls at that moment, he's outside. She goes and brings him in, as she does I go catch up with a couple of other mates I've spotted, I return and it's just her and her boyfriend, the rest of the group apparently all went off somewhere. I sit down and this part I find hilarious, she grabs her boyfriend and starts saying really excitedly "This is my new friend Musterion!!! He's a little weird but he's really cool!" I say "I know I'm weird, I like it" and she responds "No it's a good thing, it's so much better than being normal!", she then starts telling him, in the same excited tone "he's been teaching me sign language and how to do my best jagger" she demonstrates, with her eyes closed and the second her eyes close he glares at me lol. She's basically gushing to him about what a cool guy I am and it's obviously not what a guy wants to hear his girlfriend saying. I make a friendly introduction with him etc and decide to leave them be, I'm not gonna game her in front of her boyfriend because that shit can get ugly. But it's nice to know I made a solid impression on her and that I ran a decent game with her.
So at this point the place is packed, not in the good way, lots of drunk assholes etc (not M's usual clientele but this particular sporting event brings the animals out of the cages). I'm one or two fluff attempts at approaching, a girl that looked really bored looked nice from far but was far from nice, closer inspection indicated she was in a foul mood so kinda glad that approach didn't work lol. I talk to P and J for a bit and we're all pretty bored, so I suggest we stand near the dancefloor, and attempt to read peoples body language which is something I've never done, but after this it's something I'm gonna start doing much more often! How much people were silently telegraphing was unbelievable! I instantly spot one girl (very unattractive, like very) who is just stood fairly still, on her own, looking around like a meerkat, preening her hair etc and I turn to J and say "man, that girl is DTF anyone who will", no less than 10 seconds later, a guy from a nearby group of guys goes up to her, motorboats her and well, she proved me right haha.
Minutes later we saw 2 girls and a guy; the guy is barely moving and clearly has no interest in being on the dancefloor (he's there because he wants one of the girls, but which one?) now the one girl is all jumpy and clearly on the dancefloor to have a good time with her friend(s), the other girl is also dancing, not as vibrantly as the other girl but crucially, her body is facing the guy 95% of the time, my guess is she likes him. We observe them a minute and the guy is masking who he likes very well, they are either side and he's facing straight down the middle, but then he slips up. The vibrant girl (also the prettier) sees a friend and runs over to her, the other girl stays with the guy (further evidence she likes him) but he's now constantly looking over to the vibrant girl. The other girl picks up on this (she's now looking at him, then her friend, then back and forth over and over) she's says something to him and appears to dismiss it, she starts to leave the dancefloor, he waits for vibrant girl who now see's her friend walking off and her and the guy catch her up. (My guess is the one who fancied him suggested they leave the floor, he refused because he wants the other girl). There were other reads like 3 girls who all looked DTF (in a group together on the D-floor barely looking at each other or dancing, all like meerkats, but all unattractive to me) and stuff like that.
Ok if you've read all those paragraphs I am impressed and sorry haha.
Lessons
1) Not drinking was SO much better, I felt sharper, more alert and oddly a little more confident. Definitely gonna be holding off the hooch for a while, 3 beer limit from now on (I do enjoy the taste of beer unfortunately)
2) The staff in M are starting to recognise me more, I need to start taking advantage of quiet periods to get to know them better and build rapport.
3) I'm confident the girl with the boyfriend would have given me her number pretty early on if I'd asked for it, I just didn't, and I'm pretty confident that given more time 1-on-1 I could have at least k-closed her. My game wasn't completely solid with her but it went ok.
4) People watching was an eye opener at how obvious people are at telegraphing what they want through their body language. In my last FR where I was actively attempting to display non-needy, dominant, 'cool' and don't give a fuck body language (which worked in my opinion), I can see why that would seem attractive when compared with the plethora of guys that clearly display they're after one thing. I had been keeping this general frame all night on this night as well and am going to keep on doing so.
5) Not really any approaches to speak of, although I did make the concious choice to not make the night about approaches. Still though, definite improvement needed on this front.
Thoughts and opinions welcome guys, don't sugar-coat anything, be as cold and fucking brutal as you want.