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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:10 pm 
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Posted my first FR in like 3 years the other day this-should-be-a-lr-but-it-s-not-vt176679.html and decided I may as well start a journal as that's what I did the first time I got into pickup and conquered AA etc which is now back with abundance after a near 2 year relationship.
When I got good at pickup before I just did the gung ho method of constant approaching and blow outs etc but without ever working on myself, which I think is ultimately why I regressed, so this time I'm looking to take a slower but hopefully more effective approach in conquering AA and getting back on track.

Just a footnote, I'm gonna use letters/numbers instead of people/place names out of respect for their privacy.

Friday 14/03/2014

I'll keep this one brief as there's really isn't much to say.

Met up with 2 mates at a bar with an awesome jazz band playing, really got me pumped for the night ahead and feeling good. Get to the club/bar (I'll just call it M) and immediately start on the booze [MISTAKE ONE: Alcohol is not good for gaming (for me), I know this and yet continually go back to it] drinking double whiskey and lemonade....you can probably guess how this night ends up. I make some fluff chat with the bar staff who are slowly beginning to recognise/know me, which is key as I want to build a lot of social proof in this venue as it's the main one I frequent.
First thing I notice, the place is nigh on empty, but I know from experience Friday nights here can be fairly slow at the beginning and pick up later. Unfortunately things get a little hazy here as we chug back drink after drink after drink; although I do recall that the place didn't in the end fill up much. I remember the night approaching closing time and being on the dancefloor with my mates, we're just dancing having a good time and there's a group of girls giving us proximity, now clearly we should have got them involved, instead we just kept to ourselves. [MISTAKE TWO: It wouldn't have killed me to just extend a arm out to them to dance with us.]
Shortly after this the majority of the girls end up dancing with another group of guys, except one, whom remains close to their bags etc and doesn't seem too interested in staying with her friends; I clock her and think to myself "Maybe she's approachable". [MISTAKE THREE: Every girl is approachable within reason, and the fact that she was purposely distancing herself from her friends also indicates possible DTF] Alas I didn't approach and shortly after this they left and that was it, no more females left in the place.

Lessons
1) Don't drink, or at least no more than 3. It turns me into a right asshole and I lose all calibration and concentration.
2) I had at least 2 golden opportunities to approach which weren't exactly difficult approaches to make; as well as multiple other women I could have approached throughout the night. Need to break this habit of over-analysing before approaching, 3-second rule etc.
3) This night displays exactly what I need to both reduce and increase. Reduce drinking, increase approaching, plain and simple.

Saturday 15/03/2014

This FR is a fair bit longer and I'm sure some of it is pointless but I like to be detailed haha. If you don't fancy reading all the fluff, the extremely short version of this night is, I had one beer, I ran some game with a girl who has a boyfriend and attempted to read peoples body language.

Reeling from the effects of alcohol the night before I decided to man up and go out anyway but not drink. (I confess I eventually had one beer but that was it, not bad for me) Met up with my mate J and we went straight to Bar M, same as night before. Got there ridiculously early but as there'd been a big sport event on, we knew it would be packed out later on; getting there early was also a chance to chat with the staff some more. On the way we walked past their promo team and one of which is the shots girl who recognised me from the week before when I tried doing a mind reading game with her for a free shot but she knew it haha, point was though, she knew me. The barman recognised me from the previous night and even offered me the same drink, when I asked for a soft drink, I got it half price. So looks like I'm gaining allies in there slowly. [NOTE: When I was at the top of my game around 3/4 years ago, I knew every barman/woman/doorman in this venue, meaning I could go in on my own and have social proof right away, this is what I'm trying to do again.]

We chill out for a bit just having a general lads chat, eventually another mate of mine (we'll call him P) and his friends turn up and join us. After a short while P see's some ladies he knows and has a chat with them and they join us. The one girl is nicknamed "butterface" on account of she's sleeping her way through P's band, decent body but otherwise I don't find her attractive, the other is quite cute and I decide for practice purposes to run a little game on her (we'll call her E). There's a brief moment where J runs into a girl who he snogged a few weeks earlier, who he broke off contact with when he found out she was 17 not 18 like she'd told him originally (he's 25 and isn't down for that) she's trying to get his attention and starts saying he's ignoring her, he's trying to be a nice guy saying "no I'm not ignoring you" then carrys on, eventually I just say to her "he's ignoring you, deal with it" and she leaves in a huff. I found that situation kinda funny lol.

So we have all the introductions etc and I let them chat away with P and have their little catch up session while I chat with J. At this point I'm just keeping a bit of distance and not doing the usual bright-eyed and bushytailed "GIRLS HAVE ARRIVED" that I see guys doing all the time. After a short while the majority of the group goes to the bar/dancefloor/wherever leaving me J, P and E, so I decide to now start leading the conversation, but only talking in short bursts making sure everything I say is crisp, to the point, witty etc. At one point I hear her mention to P that she has a new boyfriend, who at this point isn't her, I decide to just game her anyway. We start talking about 'Do your best jagger' (search it on youtube) which is a game I got my mates doing years ago and we still do it now (someone shouts do your best jagger and you have to dance like mick jagger for a few seconds), E asks us to demonstrate so I tell P and J to do it, P asks me to do it saying that I'm the best and I decline saying I might do it later and I'm building precious jagger energy right now (talking out my ass, gets some laughs though) I tell E I'm gonna teach her how to jagger better than J. I tell her to close her eyes and she complies, everytime she opens them I tell her to keep them closed (asserting dominance). I tell her to shake her body side to side and purse her lips, now I decide to start kino by taking her hand at moving it jagger style. So we do this for a bit, high five etc. main point being, she's having a lot of fun and is now directing her speech at me; in mid-conversation some people she knows sit by her and are saying hi all excited, as I'm mid-sentence, she actually tells them to shh so she can hear/get back talking to me, she does this 3 times which I take as a big IOI. We still have a logistical issue of her being sat across the table from me, I need her closer to get the kino going more.

Eventually the rest of the group return and I leave for a moment to go to the toilet, I come back and whilst I've been gone she'd been up to the bar, had her seat taken and is now next to my seat...perfect. So I sit back down and immediately notice were doing something weird with her hands, she's attempting to spell P's name (I don't know why) letter by letter, I think for a moment and remember some sign language I was taught in college, so as she's doing that I start saying the alphabet and doing the sign language for it at the same time (DHV) she asks if I speak sign language and I tell her the truth, that I learnt a tiny bit in college and forgot most of it, one that I do remember though is how to ask "where do you live?" which (at least around here) you sign by essentially rubbing your nipple with your middle finger and gesturing with both hands towards your genitalia; she finds it funny and I teach her how to do it, she starts clapping like an excited child and I think at this point, it's on and the boyfriend is not even in her mind..........until he calls at that moment, he's outside. She goes and brings him in, as she does I go catch up with a couple of other mates I've spotted, I return and it's just her and her boyfriend, the rest of the group apparently all went off somewhere. I sit down and this part I find hilarious, she grabs her boyfriend and starts saying really excitedly "This is my new friend Musterion!!! He's a little weird but he's really cool!" I say "I know I'm weird, I like it" and she responds "No it's a good thing, it's so much better than being normal!", she then starts telling him, in the same excited tone "he's been teaching me sign language and how to do my best jagger" she demonstrates, with her eyes closed and the second her eyes close he glares at me lol. She's basically gushing to him about what a cool guy I am and it's obviously not what a guy wants to hear his girlfriend saying. I make a friendly introduction with him etc and decide to leave them be, I'm not gonna game her in front of her boyfriend because that shit can get ugly. But it's nice to know I made a solid impression on her and that I ran a decent game with her.

So at this point the place is packed, not in the good way, lots of drunk assholes etc (not M's usual clientele but this particular sporting event brings the animals out of the cages). I'm one or two fluff attempts at approaching, a girl that looked really bored looked nice from far but was far from nice, closer inspection indicated she was in a foul mood so kinda glad that approach didn't work lol. I talk to P and J for a bit and we're all pretty bored, so I suggest we stand near the dancefloor, and attempt to read peoples body language which is something I've never done, but after this it's something I'm gonna start doing much more often! How much people were silently telegraphing was unbelievable! I instantly spot one girl (very unattractive, like very) who is just stood fairly still, on her own, looking around like a meerkat, preening her hair etc and I turn to J and say "man, that girl is DTF anyone who will", no less than 10 seconds later, a guy from a nearby group of guys goes up to her, motorboats her and well, she proved me right haha.
Minutes later we saw 2 girls and a guy; the guy is barely moving and clearly has no interest in being on the dancefloor (he's there because he wants one of the girls, but which one?) now the one girl is all jumpy and clearly on the dancefloor to have a good time with her friend(s), the other girl is also dancing, not as vibrantly as the other girl but crucially, her body is facing the guy 95% of the time, my guess is she likes him. We observe them a minute and the guy is masking who he likes very well, they are either side and he's facing straight down the middle, but then he slips up. The vibrant girl (also the prettier) sees a friend and runs over to her, the other girl stays with the guy (further evidence she likes him) but he's now constantly looking over to the vibrant girl. The other girl picks up on this (she's now looking at him, then her friend, then back and forth over and over) she's says something to him and appears to dismiss it, she starts to leave the dancefloor, he waits for vibrant girl who now see's her friend walking off and her and the guy catch her up. (My guess is the one who fancied him suggested they leave the floor, he refused because he wants the other girl). There were other reads like 3 girls who all looked DTF (in a group together on the D-floor barely looking at each other or dancing, all like meerkats, but all unattractive to me) and stuff like that.

Ok if you've read all those paragraphs I am impressed and sorry haha.

Lessons
1) Not drinking was SO much better, I felt sharper, more alert and oddly a little more confident. Definitely gonna be holding off the hooch for a while, 3 beer limit from now on (I do enjoy the taste of beer unfortunately)
2) The staff in M are starting to recognise me more, I need to start taking advantage of quiet periods to get to know them better and build rapport.
3) I'm confident the girl with the boyfriend would have given me her number pretty early on if I'd asked for it, I just didn't, and I'm pretty confident that given more time 1-on-1 I could have at least k-closed her. My game wasn't completely solid with her but it went ok.
4) People watching was an eye opener at how obvious people are at telegraphing what they want through their body language. In my last FR where I was actively attempting to display non-needy, dominant, 'cool' and don't give a fuck body language (which worked in my opinion), I can see why that would seem attractive when compared with the plethora of guys that clearly display they're after one thing. I had been keeping this general frame all night on this night as well and am going to keep on doing so.
5) Not really any approaches to speak of, although I did make the concious choice to not make the night about approaches. Still though, definite improvement needed on this front.


Thoughts and opinions welcome guys, don't sugar-coat anything, be as cold and fucking brutal as you want.

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Friday - 21/03/2014
As with my last FR, this is gonna be long, I like to be detailed as possible though just incase someone reading this finds something I do useful.

So yesterday I had a little issue (in PUA Lounge, 'Girl begged me to come out....' Long story short on that one, a girl begged me to come out, I couldn't and I felt a bit like shit because of it. However I reframed it in my head as I must be doing something right with that girl to get her ringing me like that, so I put her to the back of my mind and came out tonight for an evening where I was freaking determined to do better than last week.

Get to town about 11pm (I had work until 10:30) and meet J, we await my other buddy L to arrive and once he does we bounce to a bar called CB's, it's pretty dead but plenty of hired guns so I go to the bar and chat with one for a bit, I ask her if she has a river near by to throw J's phone in, as with last week he's glued to it again, she laughs and says she has a bucket, so I tell her to fill it up and we'll get this shit done! Not my finest hired fun game ever but I'll be going there next week with my mates all suited up so that's when I'm gonna really be hitting it hard!
Me, J and L sit chatting a while and we discuss life perspectives (L knows I'm into Pua but has no interest, J I used to do Pua with but he's not interested in the idea of going out and gaming anymore). As me and J are newly single and L has always been single, J was discussing wanting to fill the void left by his ex. I have an epiphany and say to him that there shouldn't even be a void to fill! He should get fulfilment from shakily, close friends, hobbies, passions and career, not one human. A girlfriend or girls in general shouldn't be filling some kind of void, they should be just an extension of your already awesome life.

Anyway, we bounce from CB's to M and it's a bit busier than the last time we were there, a fair few sets knocking around but all on the dancefloor. We see the former doorman of M and shoot the shit with him for a bit as he has huge status in that place and it gives me good social proof. I'm keeping my demeanour 'don't give a fuck' but it's not just a demeanour this week, it's 'state' and my mind is on one thing. The music playing is pretty shit so we decide to hang back a moment until something good comes on (I always look forced when dancing to music I don't like) as we're hanging back, this girl comes up and just kinda stands with us holding her finger to her lips saying shh, so naturally I start yelling "WHY, TALKING LOUD IS SO MUCH MORE FUN" she laughs and puts her finger to my lips, I just take her hand, bring it down and hold on to it then keep talking loudly. She comes and stands next to me, arms touching and putting me inbetween her and my mates, at this point I've decided it on, like stupidly easily. Now she may have been a little tipsy or something but you know what, if a gazelle kills itself in front of a lion and says "have at it" does the lion refuse? Shit metaphor but you get the gist, she's good looking and I decide to seize the opportunity, eye of the tiger and all that crap.

As she's talking to me it's pretty loud and I can barely understand her, we're talking about how this place used to be cool when we were 18 (she's 23 I'm 24), I put my arm around her and point to the dancefloor saying "these kids don't know anything, we rock!" (Getting her to think of us as a team here as well as easy kino). The key more than anything though is I just lock eye contact like a psycho and don't break for nothing, I notice when she's talking she's now moving her head closer to mine each time. A song comes on she starts singing to so I just take her wrist and say "we're gonna dance" (showing dominance, leading her) and we get to the dancefloor, I waste no time here, I take both hands, lift them up (it's like some antigenic rock song) take a brief step back (eye contact still solid) then pull her in caveman style and makeout. We makeout on the dancefloor a while then I take her wrist again and lead her to a sofa so we can get more comfortable.

She then turns into an animal, biting my lips/tongue etc, I figure out pretty quickly that she's got a good bit of crazy about her (I kinda like crazy though, that make me crazy?). She's moaning etc and everytime the makeout pauses, BOOM, eye contact like fuck lol. I'm starting to see it's power!! She tells me that she doesn't know what it is about me but I'm making her crazy and she can't figure out why. Game. So we makeout for a while and I started rubbing her no no place from the outside (I tried getting down there but the way she was sat on me made it ridiculously fucking hard so I decide to just go back to outside). Every now and then she leans back and just stares at me, I ask if she's still trying to figure me out and she says she is and really doesn't know how I'm getting her so horny. (Just like to point out, still holding 100% never say die eye contact, not that it necessarily mattered much at this point but I think it had something to do with what was happening). Now I try to pull the lay, I say we should go back to her place (my place is also my mother and sisters place) she says we can't because of her mum and dad....shit! I say let's bounce back to J's crib as his housemates are away for the weekend, then she says her son is at her friends house so she has to go back there. I try a few more times to get her to bounce either back to J's or even to a fucking alleyway outside lol but she isn't biting (well she nearly bit my lip off). She's telling me she wants to fuck me and all this and that and I'm thinking "you're making my damn balls blue bitch" lol, she gets real excited as I'm rubbing her I'm the venue, there's a little awkward moment where her friend comes over and we have a quick 3-way makeout, it then becomes clear the friend is the birthday girl and has been on her own all night...thanks to me occupying this chick (we'll call her B).

SO, if you're still with me, be patient, it's almost over. I warned it was long.

The friend starts pushing for them to leave, so eventually we exchange numbers, she says to promise to text her in the morning and I say I'll call her (she likes this) and they depart. 5 minutes later after discovering L and J had gone home ages ago (don't blame them, but I was supposed to be crashing at J's to save money because I'm on my knees at the moment) I decide to leave, grab my jacket and bag and she's stood outside saying to her friend her sister tried ringing her but (in the space of 5 minutes) she dropped her phone and it's fucked, completely wrecked. I'm thinking "there goes day 2" but wait, Facebook exists!! I talk to her and let her use my phone to call her sister, she starts getting emotionally because basically her sister is a bit of an idiot, I won't go into all this but B is now freaking out and crying and shit. In thinking "great, just like 2 weeks ago" (see field report entitled this should be a LR but it isnt). I decide on a different tactic this time and stay with them, I can't have her last memory of me being of her crying, as well as no contact info now her phone is fucked. So I get in the taxi with them and her friends are like "how come you're coming with us" and I said "your friend is upset, and I wanna make sure she gets home ok" the friends eat this up and start saying "fair play, you're a cool guy" (bare in mind I'd ruined her friends birthday night out by keeping her occupied, now she's saying what a great guy I am haha). The 3 of them are say together on the backseat, the one in the middle gets out at her stop, then the friend says "sit here dude" telling me to sit next to B lol. I do and she's apologising for getting upset, I go back to the eye contact and we get back to making out in the backseat, she's getting hot and heavy again then they reach their stop, I grab her Facebook and she whispers to me "I'm gonna fuck you so hard, very very soon!!" The friend thanks me for making sure they got home ok and I travel home at 4:30am and am now sat here writing this whilst it's fresh in the mind.

FINISHED! If you've read all that, I take my hat off to you, 'cause that's a fucking marathon!

Lessons
1) Stuck to 3 beer limit tonight, definitely felt more positive again and am enjoying knowing I won't have a hang over tomorrow!

2) Whilst I'm disappointed about not getting approaches in (except maybe the hired gun) I'm pleased with how I seized the very first opportunity I had. In short leading to the initial makeout, I teased, rapidly kino escalated, held eye contact like my life depended on it, building quick sexual tension, built rapport making us like a team, showed dominance and leadership by just taking her and leading her to the dancefloor, and capped it off with no nonsense and confidently went straight for the make out as soon as we hit the floor. THIS is how I want to run my game, preferably by approaching as opposed to being approached, but even so, I feel like (and please do critique if I'm wrong) that I ran game well here. No doubt there may be an element of luck involved, but in the past I have no doubt I would have just froze and nothing would've happened.

3) "Leave her better than you found her" this is partly what was in my head when I tagged along in the taxi with them. Even though I knew I wasn't getting any tonight, I had nothing better to do at 4am so decided to make sure that the last memory would be a good one, not me lending her my phone to phone her sister and her crying. I stuck with it, got her friends on my side after they'd been hating on me all night and left her with a smile on her face. In fact, when we very first started making out again in the taxi, she looked at me and smiled, then said "my sister has pissed me off, my phone is fucked, why am I smiling?" I can't remember what I said, we just went back to the makeout after it though.

4) One negative about tonight, I've fucked myself money-wise for the rest of the week, is planned to crash round J's specifically to avoid getting a taxi and obviously that's not happened; however, this night has left me with positive feelings, mostly I think because I know that I left those girls with nothing but good feelings in the end, and I wasn't just some hit and run makeout punk like they're probably used to. Even if no day 2 or lay comes from this....I enjoyed tonight, and that's what counts.

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Saturday - 22/03/2013
Again long ass report, not as juicy as Friday but some things to take note from.

Started the day with a brief chat on facebook with the girl from the night before, made a cluster fuck though which I realise now, I pushed too hard to find out the situation with her phone etc, the last message I sent was read but no response, had I not pushed with that I'd probably be in better position; will freeze out for a few days and attempt to re-open.

Started off at my mate's uni flat, he recently decided he's now officially done with his ex and wants to 'get back out there' so I so opportunity to try and recruit a new wing. Spoke to him about game (loosely) and some of the shit I used to get up to 4 years ago when I was at the top of my game and he said it was very motivating for him and getting him pumped for the night. We joined some of his flat mates and some other guys in a different flat for pre drinks (I just had the one) and I saw further opportunity to recruit some more socially savvy wings and expand my social circle. On the way to the club, me, my mate (we'll call him Metal) and one of the other guys (will call him S) are chatting about game; it was slightly surreal because these guys have never heard about PUA or anything like that, however this conversation about game could have been with any of the guys on this forum. We discussed state more than anything and having a don't give a fuck attitude, we also all agreed we need to approach more (when I first brought up the idea of approaching to Metal, he said that he'd never have the balls to do that, now he's agreeing it's a good idea).
As we're on the way I call the girl who was ringing me on Thursday begging me to come out and tell her to drag her friends to where we were going, she said she doesn't really have much of a say, I tell her to be the boss and tell them she has it on good authority that the place we're going to is awesome, I then bust her balls a bit saying she still needs to prove to me she's a proper german and that even though I have to be up early for work, I'll still drink her ass under the table. She laughs and says she'll text me later to let me know what they're doing. I figure I'm not gonna receive one and sure enough I don't, oh well.

So we get to the club (Students Union) which I've never been to before so it's a little unnerving being in a new environment, however I decide tonight to at least make one cold approach no matter how fleeting to start taking steps towards more. We get inside and I quickly grasp the layout, 3 rooms, one is huge and full of sofa's/seats/circle couches, PERFECT isolation zone and on a busy night I imagine would be a very easy opening area by just sitting down next to some chicks. Next room is about half the size, circle bar in the middle that only sells shots and just a few couches, mainly a standing room though. (Both rooms have the music fairly low), then there's the club room which was more or less one massive dancefloor, packed full of meatheads who were using their size and strength to dominate the dancefloor....no biggy as I'm not really into dancefloor game, prefer conversing. The key thing though, is this place (being a students union) is packed full of hot university girls, there is a lot of natural male competition, but with a fair bit of practice and calibration, the layout of this place could be perfect for sarging!

We grab a drink and head to the dancefloor, Metal is pushing me to approach (I'd obviously been talking a big game earlier on about the shit I used to do) so I spot this girl next to me on the dancefloor on her phone, tap her on the shoulder ask her why she's on her phone on the dancefloor, she looks at me like I just farted in her face and walks off lol. I've said similar things to chicks on the dancefloor before and it's always either that response or laughter and justification so I knew it'd be hit and miss. Metal missed the approach as he'd gone to get a drink but S saw and was like "fair play mate, you had a go". Me, S and another dude leave the floor and head back to the seating room, other dude disappears so me and S talk about game. I decide to tell him about PUA and show him this forum on my phone and he said he thinks it's awesome that this 'thing' PUA exists; so I may be able to recruit him for proper sarging nights out as opposed to getting hammered nights out, which is all the rest of my mates same to be interested in doing.

After a while Metal returns and he's a little drunk but starts saying that we need to each at least approach once, I tell him I already have but realise that that shouldn't mean I'm done for the night, especially how bad it went haha. So we bounce to the room with the shots bar and take up position by the sofa's, I spot a 2-set at the bar and ask metal if he fancies getting a shot (knowing the answer before I even ask) he heads over and stands next to the girls, I kind of shimmy inbetween him and them and prepare a quick opinion opener to make for an easy open and show him how simple it can be (tooting my own horn without merit here a bit seeing as I don't approach enough at the moment). I ask him if he thinks there should be a limit on comedy or if everything should be allowed to be made fun of, I do this so that I can then turn to my left, tap the nearest girl on the shoulder and ask her the same thing, leading with the old favourite "hey, me and my buddy are having a debate, can I get your opinion on something?", she gives her answer and I just grab her and hug her saying I'm glad someone else is on my side, the other girl takes her attention as they've now got their drinks, but they hover around a little, so I basically interrupt them mid-sentence asking their names, I get them (can't remember now so we'll call them blonde and brunette...brunette being the one I initially opened), introduce myself and luckily Metal realises what I'm doing and comes over to introduce himself too. I ask them what they're studying (it's a student union, they have to be studying something to get in! Easy transition question and great for building a wider conversation) They ask us to guess so I stand back, look them up and down and joke "carpentry, and plumbing" they giggle a bit and brunette asks us to guess for real, I guess brunette first and get it wrong of course, she tells us then I turn my attention to blonde (my target) Metal now engages brunette nicely so I can chat one-on-one. She tells me she studies criminology and has weird dreams about it and necrophilia of all things lol. I bust her balls incessantly about her being a necrophiliac and she's in fits of laughter, all the while I'm kino escalating like crazy, maybe a little too much but I do shit like hug her and start stroking her hair saying "It's ok, we'll get you the help you need, I'll make sure you don't go to prison for necrophilia, it's ok", she's laughing a lot. Asks me what I do and I tell her sound technology, she says "oh like music then" and I say "no more the production side, I basically sit around all day and play with knobs", I intentionally word it this way so that she can banter at me about the "play with knobs" line and I pretend it came out wrong. She says is that my new pickup line and I tell her that I should go up to a girl and say "Hey, how you doing, I like to play with knobs" and she should go up to a guy and say "Hey, how you doing, I'm into necrophilia". Again laughter + kino and I think I say something like we'll be irresistible.

At this point now I start locking the eye contact more, I can see that Metal's girl is losing interest fast and she keeps looking our direction at the fun me and blonde are having, I'm not interested in a number, I want that makeout!! Out of nowhere I pulled something right out of Cajun's Keys to the VIP pickup, I hug her and say she's adorable, she's my new little sister and we're gonna climb trees and drink lemonade, she gives me a big squeezing hug and brunette cuts in saying "it was nice to meet you" with her hand extended, I shake her hand but I ain't quitting that easily, Metal manages to drag brunette back briefly as I initiate a thumb war (one of my own old routines) with blonde, we're playing and she wins first time, I win second time, then I say "ok, last game, if I win you have to kiss me, if you win I have to kiss you", she replies laughing saying she's not that easy and lets go of my hand, I hold it there and just smile and she puts it back and we start the thumb war, she wins and the second she does, brunette AGAIN jumps in with the "we're going, nice meeting you" shit, blonde is being physically dragged off so I go for one last try for the makeout, the italian goodbye (basically the french goodbye but I'm part italian so it's more congruent to say that) I ask if she knows it and she kisses me on each cheek without prompting, I tell her "no it's 3 kisses, let me show you" get the first to cheeks then just lean in the the clincher and miss lol, she laughs and says she knew what I was up to, brunette then drags her off and that's it.

I'm a little gutted I didn't get the K-close as I thought it was on, she was displaying a LOT of IOI's (squeezed my hand, kino'd me back, hair tossing, eye contact, body language facing me completely) I probably should have just fucking gone for it earlier in the interaction and thought about it a couple of times but I pussied out. No excuse there. I'm glad I at least attempted it in the end though and think that it was better to try for that than a flimsy number, on another day I may have got the k-close. Metal said the brunette had a boyfriend (could have been a lie) but either way he wasn't able to keep her interest for very long, early days yet mind, especially for him as this was his first ever experience of being in a cold approach situation and the first time us two have attempted to wing each other. I went home pretty much straight after this interaction as I had to be up early for work which was disappointing as the interaction had got me a little pumped.

Lessons
1) With regard to the girl from Friday, I think I was a little more shocked than I should have been that she's been flakey, I didn't build any comfort what so ever and we didn't even get each others names until the end, I'll try and get something going in the next few days but I think this is gonna be a pretty cold lead, despite her last words to me being "I'm gonna fuck you so hard, very very soon". Also gonna freeze out the girl I called for at least 3-days, she's been too flakey and I'm not wasting my time anymore, she's called me to hang out before, she can do it again.

2) Feeling positive about recruiting these guys as wings, I need some more guys to go out with for the purpose of gaming, someone else to push me, I had that when I got good and crushed my AA in the past, trying to overcome AA with no encouragement (sometimes even the fucking opposite, with mates telling me not to approach) is so much harder.

3) First approach is a write off. Second approach however I feel went fairly well, I made some mistakes along the way, possibly busted on her about the necrophilia thing too much, possibly even kino'd too much and if I was gonna get the makeout, I should have tried much sooner and more 'caveman', even if I didn't get it I feel that would've been the better way to go. However, I did get some good positives, I was recognising her IOI's well, I opened the interaction cold (ok it might have been a canned line but that's just for the time being whilst I get used to approaching again) and it hooked well without too much effort. More than anything though it was a little ego boost that I needed - even more so than the girl the night before saying she wanted to fuck me etc, because ultimately if it doesn't happen, those words mean shit - this was a better ego boost in the sense that it reminded me just how simple and painless approaching really is, I had one on the dancefloor that looked at me like I was a piece of shit and it just made me laugh, and one which hooked well and was generally not too bad of an interaction, ignoring the lack of 'results' it gleaned.

4) Don't give a fuck attitude needs to increase. There was one point where Metal pointed out this absolutely stunning bombshell waiting in line at the bar and was practically creaming himself over her just by looking, there was no reason why I couldn't have gone over 'waited in line too' and opened, but I pussied out. I'm going to go back to basics with approaching and go out with a couple of canned openers in my phone notes, as soon as I walk in a venue I'll look at the first one and as soon as I have opportunity to approach, I don't have the "I don't know what to say" excuse. Eventually those canned lines won't be needed as the confidence builds and "Hi" feels natural.

5) Not really a lesson more of something that's been observed, sometimes when I go out (like last night) I wear a beany hat as opposed to spiking up my mohawk like usual. I have a full on walter white goatie as well, the last few weeks my mates keep referring to me as "The Edge" (U2's guitarist) but last night some dude who bumped into drunk apologised by saying "hey man sorry about that justin timberlake lookalike from back in the nsync days" lol. So my new opener when I'm wearing the beany "Hey guys can I get your opinion? Do I like more like U2's guitar player, or justin timberlake from the nsync days?" ANY time I hear timberlake I'll take that as a sign of finding me attractive looking because well, chicks love nsync lol.

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Very short report.

Went to the local bar next to my university where me and my friends are regulars. Every time I go up to grab a drink I chat with the barmaid. Eventually my mates leave and I have half a beer left so I stand and chat with the barmaid some more, a different mate turns up for one drink then leaves. Now I get chatting to this guy at the bar who knows the barmaid (even more a regular than me) and he starts asking me very serious questions...like imagine the ultimate shit tests you could ever experience, this is what I was getting, but I kept my composure and answered slowly/calmly, and that was all I needed to do, to the point where he was praising me for my intellect and 'goodness' infront of the barmaid.

Anyway I clocked her saying to someone she was about to finish and I was about finished with my drink, we left at the same time, at first I walked a different direction then turned around and told her to wait as I realised it was easier to catch my bus from her direction (not really a lie as it kinda was) we walked for a while and she said she was impressed with how I dealt with that dude at the bar, eventually as we're walking she says she has to go as she lives in the student housing across the road, I say to her she should give me her number and I'll teach her something (it was something we were talking about, I forget what it was) she says to come see her in the bar as she is working there most days (FUCK THAT) I tell her I'm not in there that much (as I'm taking my phone out of my pocket) I hand it to her saying "Put your number in my phone" which she does then we depart and that's it.

So not the most exciting sarge and whilst I'm confident the number is real, I'm pretty sure it's a flake (based on how quick she put it in but also based on her non response to my first message) but either way I'm pretty pleased about getting this hired gun's number, I know numbers ultimately mean fuck all but it's a nice little ego boost to start the week off. That and the girl I have frozen out since Saturday (the 18 year old) has re-opened me today after only a 2-day freeze out so I'm dealing with that situation as it manifests.

EDIT: Noticed the barmaid on facebook and she has a boyfriend lol

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Went to the bar by my uni with some uni mates to have a victory drink after we did a successful presentation, after a while they all shot off and I stayed for another drink as I was waiting for my father to meet me in town and drive us to visit my sister who's recovering from an operation. As I got my drink I noticed this kinda cute chick chatting with the barman (who I've gotten to know through being in that bar all the time)

I joined their conversation and when some other customers came, just chatted one on one with the girl. She asked if she was keeping me from a friend and I said I was just waiting for my father for about half an hour, she asked me to join her at her table so of course I did. She then began asking loads of questions about me and my studies etc, fortunately I'm quite knowledgable about my subject so I was DHVing MASSIVELY without even trying. At one point she tells me that I'm the second person with my name that she'd met that day, but I was much cooler than the other guy, so jokingly I turned around to some people sat behind and shouted to them "hey guys, apparently I'm a really cool guy!! Much cooler than some other guy called (my name)!" There was no logic behind me doing this, I just thought it'd be funny, and it was, they laughed, she laughed, I laughed, good times. I get a call from my father who's now got to town, so I tell her I have to leave but we should stay in contact. I get her number and she asks me to call her phone so she has my number. We have a little banter and she asks if I really have to go (big IOI, she doesn't want me to leave) but I tell her I do, we hug I kiss her on the cheek and part ways.

Very shortly after leaving she texts me saying it was nice meeting me and some other shit, I responded a few hours later but have yet to receive a response. I'll probably give her a call tomorrow or Monday and try to get a day 2 set; which I don't think should be too hard based on the solidness of the interaction and her not wanting me to leave. Anyway I thought this was quite a well spent 20-30 minutes while I was just waiting for a phone call.

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Out for my birthday, got everyone to come out in suits, we looked suave as fuck! However I wasn't out to game as some of the guys had travelled quite a distance so I wasn't gonna just abandon them, but there were a couple things from this night worth mentioning.

For a start, women love a well dressed man, we were getting so much attention! The place we ended up in is the kind of place where you NEVER see guys in suits, and that is precisely the reason we went down so well in there; but going out in a suit every week isn't practical, maybe we should do it more often though.
One cool thing which will be good for future nights out, I appear to have gained a wing-woman! My buddies girlfriend arrived later in the night and the 3 of us were on the dancefloor, some pretty unattractive girl was up in my grill and my mate's gf came over and 'saved' me, after I looked across at them and they could see I wasn't into her. Later on I bumped into the same girl again and I thought "fuck it, let's try some speed seduction" so locked eyes like a psycho, then she was telling me that she thought I was really hot but she was engaged lol, I just kept staring at her and it was quite funny watching her animalistic brain (that wanted me) fight her logical brain (that wanted to remain faithful) and she was literally going back and forth, I did think about going caveman but at the same time I kinda wanted to respect her future husband and she wasn't very attractive anyway, she kissed me goodbye later on but that was it.

I got chatting with my buddies girlfriend and told her she's gonna have to be my new wing-woman (them 2 are always in this venue, the one I almost always go to) and she said she was up for that, so that's cool.
Some other friends I bumped into in the venue had this cute short girl with them, when we were on the dancefloor I had a second unattractive girl getting up in my grill so I grabbed the cute girl and asked her to save me, she made it look like we were kissing and I told her we should just kiss anyway but she didn't haha. Anyway later on me, cute girl and some of our friends end up by the taxi's, she says she's cold so I wrap my arms around her, even after we stopped this little hugging session she kept her arm around me so I did the same. She asked me if I was going to be out next weekend (of fucking course I am, plus IOI) I go for her number but she can't remember it after the first 5/6 digits so she takes my phone and adds herself to my facebook, I'd obviously prefer the number but it was like 6am, she couldn't remember it, and I wanted to go to bed lol. Am currently speaking to her on facebook now, her profile says she's in a relationship but we'll see how true that is (news flash guys, a lot of girls fake their relationship status so they avoid getting creepy guys adding them and messaging them for sex), at the moment the convo is going well and she's investing more so we'll see where this can go. If she is actually in a relationship I'll just recruit her as a wing-woman.

Also had a chat with a friend of a friend about the unattractive girl who was looking to shag anyone, he said he'd have done her. He was talking about his philosophy for this year, which is that he'll take ANY opportunity for ANY lay, because why the fuck shouldn't he? It did get me thinking about maybe I should just throw any idea of 'standards' out the window, at least for a while, based on his premise which I've interpreted as "When she's sucking your dick, do you really give a shit that she's not that good looking?" I think this could be a good mantra to live by for a little while, maybe until I finally get my own place this summer and finally have a place to bring chicks back to, until then I gotta take the chances thrown my way to get some notches on the bed post at the girls place, which is pretty tough when at least half the girls I meet still live with parents etc.

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Much of this FR is just a rant about one of my 'friends' whom is very swiftly losing that title.

Went out late after work, met up with J and P at one of our casual bars. Saw the manager from another bar I've become a regular at and we had a good chat...my social proof in that particular bar has been sky-rocketing recently but unfortunately it's not usually very busy. J started his bullshitting again, saying how he really doesn't like how many girls are messaging him at the moment and how he just keeps thinking about his ex; then when me and P were in a discussion about something, J butted into our conversation, grinning like a Cheshire cat, and said "Boobies!" then proceeded to show us all the pictures of boobs on his phone that girls had been sending him. So just to reiterate, he says he's not enjoying the attention, then has a big cheesy grin when showing us examples of said attention... actions speak louder than words, he is loving the attention, and why shouldn't he? I would as well! But why lie about it?

So, we move on to our usual hang out "M" and it is dead, barely any signs of life (students going home for easter which could explain it) however I'm a student that is from the same city so I'm going nowhere. I have a little banter with the shots girl I've been very slowly getting to know, at at one point as she walks passed me, I tease her for walking "like a gangster" which gets a good laugh. What's interesting is that she's there to sell shots, I have declined a shot every week for the last 3 months without fail, she admitted she knows I'm never gonna buy one, yet still always comes over to us anyway. I'm probably reading too much into that but it's intriguing me at least.

Eventually J says some girl is coming to meet him at M. Now, he says to me that he's never met her before (tinder) but says to P that he can't remember where he met her, it turns out she was from tinder, but why lie to P about it? Again....why lie?
He goes outside to meet her and comes back a few minutes later saying she isn't as attractive as he thought and she's brought a gay guy friend so he not interested in trying to get with her at all. An interesting thing to consider, which I found out later, was that they had been talking together for 3 MONTHS via Tinder/Text. I go to the bar and when I come back, she's leaning over him as he's sat down, talking to him; I decide fuck it, if he's not interested, I'll get some practice in. I march over, go right up to her and say "Hi, I'm Musterion, who are you?" in a very commanding/dominant tone with my hand out for her to shake it. I notice (and no this isn't an exaggeration) she is physically stirred by this confident character coming over and taking over the whole group.
*Side Note* For all his success at the moment, J is actually a very beta kind of guy, his success at the moment is almost exclusively from Tinder (which as we know is very superficial/looks based) but the sheer fact he has abundance is making him give less of a shit. In terms of our group dynamic, the kind of 'pecking order' if you will is Me, P, then J... this isn't by design or anything to do with game, it's just how the group formed, P is too laid back to be the alpha of the group and J is very much an outsider in many different ways, but I won't go into that.

So after she shakes my hand I hold onto it, not in a "FUCK YOU I AIN'T LETTING GO" kinda way, I just don't let go. She recognises me from Tinder (we matched once I think) and I just go into general conversation about what she's celebrating tonight, where she's from, the usual shit. After about 5 minutes she notices we're still holding hands and mentions it, but crucially, she does NOT try to pull her hand away, which is a good sign, I say "oh yeah, I didn't even realise", I don't let go and just proceed with the interaction as if she'd said nothing. After another few minutes she says she has to go find her friend as he's on his own so I tell her we'll talk later, she asks if I'm gonna be in the same area later on (good IOI), then we hug and she goes to find her friend. All of a sudden, J (who remember was not interested in this girl before) suddenly seems a bit, detached. I later found out that whilst I was spitting mad game at this girl that had come to meet him, P had been saying stuff to him something to the effect of "Man, I think Musterion is moving in on your territory, he has completely taken over that girl", why would he say this? I have no idea, he's not the most intelligent guy in the world, but it had clearly stirred something in J. As I sit back down I said "hey man, if you aren't interested, you know I need the practice", I met J through game many many years back but he was never really that interested in it.

She comes back with her friend and sits closer to me than anyone else, as she is a drummer, me and P both guitarists, I say the 5 of us should start a band and the other guys need to learn to sing or play bass. She really gets into the roleplay/frame and it's all going good. I need the toilet so naturally go, when I come back she's sat in my seat (next to J) now here is kinda where I fuck up, I should have been dominant and lead her out of the seat to keep the group dynamic the same, but instead I think "Nah fuck it, J has already said he's not interested so I doubt anything'll happen" but of course I forget, they've been chatting for 3 months and already have a lot of groundwork built up, J also has the looks card on his side as well as pre-selection (he adds at least 2 new girls to facebook almost daily), sure enough I notice J's body language, he's leaning into her, talking her ear off, and clearly is interested, after about 10 minutes they start making out and that was that. Now the fact that they made-out (and after about 3 hours, they left together) doesn't bother me, it is once again, the lying by J. Why not just tell me in the first place that he wanted to bang her instead of coming back to us saying "yeah, I'm not interested", is he trying to save face incase he bombs? Is he saying it for mine and P's benefit? Or did he genuinely mean it until he saw me moving in, and all of a sudden, he was no longer the centre of the girls attention.

Myself and P spent much of the rest of the night discussing J's change in personality since his ex broke up with him a few months back. His life completely revolves around random hook-ups and he is consistently lying to both of us. Another example of the lying is about a month ago I asked if he wanted to go out in the night, he said he was tired, then 2 texts later said that he was meeting a girl, so I called him out on it and said "well which is it? Don't lie to me" he then changed the story a third time to something else that I can't remember and I repeated myself "What's the TRUTH? We're supposed to be mates and you can't even give me a straight answer as to why you don't wanna come out tonight. I don't care what the answer is, just be fucking honest!"
Now I'm aware none of this necessarily has anything to do with game, but in another sense it kinda does. I don't wanna hang out with people that cannot tell the truth, even for really simple things, he does not need to lie to me and P about anything and yet regularly does so. P even suggested that he is only using us as a launch pad on nights out to meet up with girls on tinder in town, making it look more casual so he can say "oh I'm out with friends tonight anyway" and he continually ditches us to do so without so much as a "guys I'm gonna shoot, later".

Lessons
1) Possibly some interest from the shots girl, need to push harder to test her interest.

2) When I opened the girl, she didn't initially know I was with the guy she was talking to, she just thought I was this super confident guy with the way I approached and the hand holding really worked too. This is definitely a small ego boost as I've proven to myself that I can open like a fucking boss if I want to and just say "Fuck it!". Need to do this more.

3) J is treading on thin ice, I don't mind that he left with that girl etc, she came there to meet him anyway. But if he doesn't stop these petty little lies, he's gonna have one less true friend in his life, all for the sake of just not being honest. As for right now I'm gonna remain calm, but I don't suffer fools gladly and he's close to an ultimatum, stop lying or we are no longer friends (I've already had at least 2 discussions with him on this topic, 3 times is too many)

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Saturday - 19/04/2014
Haven't really done any gaming the last two weeks, for a variety of reasons which I won't go into, so before tonight I've just been utilising the spare time to work on my text game via Tinder, am getting really good at scoring numbers off there, now just need to turn them into dates... Possibly one lined up for next Saturday but seams a little flimsy.

Anyway, went out tonight with the usual pair, J, P and my cousin B (no offence to the guys as they're my best mates but am getting a little tired of always going out with the same people, hopefully trying to bring together the PUA's in my city will pay off) first bar nothing happened, was dead; second bar I flirted with a barmaid a little, we bumped into another friend of ours (we'll call him Mini, on account of his nickname, because he's so tall) and his dudes, we all shot the shit for a while and I was feeling pretty sharp, then all of those minus 2 bounced to our usual hangout, M (another reason for wanting to go out with different people, need more venue variety).

M is fairly busy, we grab a drink and head to the far corner where Mini is meeting some people; he's pretty well connected and knows a few girls so it's always worth hanging with him for warm openings. Unfortunately there was like no girls to speak of in his crowd, I introduce myself to a couple of the dudes just for networking purposes and to get into the chatty mode. Go back to bar to get a drink and I see P talking to an actual living breathing female, who looked pretty nice from distance... I think "Wow, he must be hammered because this never happens", upon closer inspection it turned out to be our friends wife who we've not seen in years, we end up talking to her for about an hour because it's literally like finding fucking bigfoot! She even got really mad at me at one point (partly because she was drunk) saying our friend misses us and we never go and see them (there's a little more to it than that, but I won't go into that here), anyway it was a good chance to use some social gymnastics to diffuse the situation.

SO, we go on the dancefloor for a little while, I soft open I girl I know from school, trying to steal her glowstick but to no avail; didn't want to game her at all though, VERY unattractive, plus married. After we come off the dancefloor for a break, J and I discuss the fact that we both noticed we were getting serious proximity from a group of 4 girls, he also said they kept looking our way, I made it a personal goal then to open the next girl(s) that gave me proximity on the dancefloor and we went back. Sure enough after about 1 minute some girl bumps into me, I turn around, put my hand out and say something to the effect of "We're gonna dance, you're a terrible dancer so I have to teach you" (for the record, I'm the fucking worst dancer in the world, NO calibration between all those damn limbs, but that isn't what's important here) she says no and points to her friend (who's hotter, shwing!) and says that she's an even worse dancer and I should teach her. So I go over, put the hand out and say "I've been told you're a terrible dance, so we're gonna dance" she does a flimsy protest "no no no" but sure enough I just take her hand, spin her and get to it.
We bust out all the cheesy dancemoves - for example one point where I told her to do the snorkel, and a couple of times I dipped her - but even though we're both dancing AWFULLY, I'm leading the interaction, almost throwing her around like a ragdoll, putting her where I want her and just dominating. She throws a couple of little shit-tests out like seeing if her friend was ok talking to some random guy, we go over but I'm sure to keep it brief and the friend says she's fine. The venue announces free toast at the bar and she wants to get some but I know I gotta get the makeout first, it's already been too long. So I tell her we're gonna continue to dance for 2 minutes because I like the song, then we'll get toast. She started fucking with her hair in her eyes so I tell her to stop, brush her hair back with both hands, and make out; dance a bit more, make out a bit more. No hint of resistance at all which was pleasant. We go to the bar to grab a drink, she gets her card out to get her own drink but I'm wary that the longer we're isolated from the friend where she can't see us, the shorter this interaction is gonna get. So I get our drinks to save time and say she can get the next round which she agrees to.

Soon as we get our drinks I tell her "I wanna get to know you better" and lead her to the sofa's, I ask her a question I've been experimenting with recently, asking "Would you rather have £10million or live in a world where Pokemon exist". It's a screening question for myself where £10million is the wrong answer, she says that, I bust on her a bit, she asks me something which I can't remember and we have a back and forth a little. I make sure to get her number now as I'm wary her friend could drag her off at any moment (NEED A FUCKING WINGMAN!!) and give her a shit-test asking her what my name is, she remembers and I tell her it would've been a deal breaker if she hadn't remembered. However, I notice she's now breaking out of our little bubble as my mind has gone a little blank a couple minutes after the #-close, she's saying she's worried about her friend with the random guy; so I know I've gotta break her chain of thinking and say "Ok, we'll drink another 6.5% of our drinks, then go find your friend" just talking out of my ass here but it works, she drinks a little a says "Ok, now you have to drink 6.5% of yours" and I reply "I will, in a minute, but first I wanna do this" and go straight back to the makeout, but this time I'm making sure to make it more intense and suck her back into my world, but just as soon as I can tell she's really getting into it, BOOM! Her friend taps her on the shoulder and says they're leaving, then practically starts dragging her away, I quickly stand up and stop then briefly just to quickly hug and kiss her then say I'll text her something amusing or some shit.
I'm already thinking this number is gonna flake though, I don't feel like we made enough of a connection during the time together; some guys can get away with that but I usually can't. Anyway, we'll see what can be salvaged from this.

I go meet up with Mini again and end up just me, some random acquaintance who's a bit of a dick and some random girl who I can tell already is a little crazy. Me and guy are in almost a comedy battle of chess, he doesn't know what he's dealing with, quick comebacks are my speciality. After a while the girl even says "I can't decide who's funnier" and after about 5 minutes, he's all but given up and the interaction is mine. After a little while a big irish guy that we all know (used to be a bouncer at M) sits down with us and girl is giving him 2 fingers, so I take opportunity for cheap kino and grab her hand then fashion it into different insults (middle finger, wanker, etc) then don't let go of her hand, our faces get real close and the sexual tension is thick as a fucking brick wall, I SHOULD have gone for the makeout as looking back I'm like 95% sure I'd have got it as we were locking eyes with our faces close for a good long time but I just didn't pull the trigger. I figured I could just build back into it later but let's just say some shit happened that made that impossible (like seriously, am not even gonna go into the crazy ass shit that happened 5 minutes later). Still though, this girl was hostile at first when she joined us just after I joined and was throwing an unbelievable amount of shit-tests, so it was satisfying being able to completely turn that around and get her attracted which I'm sure now she was.

Lessons
1) Tonight has made me recognise how much opening on a dancefloor really isn't a big deal as long as you have the mindset I had at the time which was "You WANT to join me and would be lucky to!", and that goes for opening in general. Just after crazy girl at the end I opened her friend who was Hot. As. Fuck. By simple introducing myself as she'd kinda been on the outskirts of our group, unfortunately the crazy shit that ensued 2 minutes later fucked that up. But point being, with the right mindset, opening isn't a big deal, gonna look to carry that mindset into tonight.

2) BE DOMINANT. LEAD HER. Everything I did with the girl I k-closed was only possible because I was dominant and lead her. When I first approached and she did her flimsy protest, dominated, took her hand and lead. Getting the makeout; there was no "would you like to kiss me?"...."oh you just looked like blah blah blah" no, it was simple, I knew she was attracted and leant in. Isolating her; literally just put my arm around her, started walking towards the sofa's and said "we're gonna get to know each other better" and there was NO RESISTANCE AT ALL. I had 100% belief in everything I was doing and the thought of "Oh she might not do this" didn't even enter my head. I was even doing mini compliance tests, like just before isolating I said "pick up your drink" no reason was needed, she just did it.

3) Should have gone for the makeout with crazy chick, it was SO on, there's hardly a shred of doubt in my mind, and looking back I'm pretty sure she was staring at my lips a little during our 'moment'. Need to be more cut-throat and that goes for the chick that I did makeout with that I could've done earlier!

4) I need to start thinking ahead and making day 2's DURING the interaction. When I got her number I just said "we should exchange contact information because we're gonna hangout" but I should have been more specific, I know a few awesome date locations in my city that not many people know about, so next time I need to filter these into general conversation, there doesn't have to be a reason for bringing up pancakes other than "Question, do you like pancakes?", girl "yes", me "good, I know this awesome pancake house, they make the BEST pancakes, I'm taking you there, you free tuesday?" or some shit like that. I think this is a logical step to take to decreasing my flake rate as just getting the number and going from there is getting me nowhere at the moment, either with or without k-close

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Sunday - 20/04/2014
Had a few mates over to mine for some beers whilst my family is away, in hindsight we probably should have stayed in, would've been a more fun night but J was convinced that tomorrow being bank holiday Monday, our usual place would be really busy, I told him it wouldn't because there are no students around until next week. We get to town and go to M, sure enough I was right, we get there and I'm not joking, there are 7 people!!! I actually counted!

Anyway, of those 7 people there were just 2 girls, on their own at the bar when we walked in, I opened them about the place being dead and we had a little back and forth then parted ways. Spent the next 2 hours me and the guys just having a general chat and trying to figure out if everywhere was gonna be this dead. At one point I chat with the bouncer who's now getting to know us a bit, and he says they're closing in 15minutes (2 hours early) because of the lack of people. So a couple minutes later coming back from the toilet I see the same two girls sat down so I just think fuck it, they're literally the ONLY two in here, I'm gonna make a point of talking to them. I ask if they know anywhere that'll be bumping after M closes and they suggest one bar, we have a little chat about that place then one of them suggests a gay bar, so I take the opportunity to sit next to them (unfortunately the uglier and more bitchy of the two) by getting her to be me and me playing the part of a 'bear' that once hit on me in a gay bar. I sit down in an awkward position, my ass wasn't skinny enough to fit the gap between her and the arm of the sofa lol should have told them to move along to make room but fuck it.

Anyway miss bitchy pants starts with the shit-tests saying "do you expect sympathy from us? We get it all the time", I say "I'm a guy, I'm not used to being hit on by guys" or something like that. Bitchy pants then cracks out with something like "yeah well we're used to that stuff, like what you're doing now" said in the most dismissive tone possible... I notice the other girl who's actually pretty cute, her ears prick up as if to say "I wonder if he can handle this". I ask bitchy "what am I doing?" And she says some shit like "you know" and we repeat ourselves a few times, eventually I say something like "I'm a friendly guy, what's the problem with that?", though I think I worded it better. At this point bitchy throws another couple smaller shit tests but I just repeat myself because I know she can't answer that statement.

So, following the little bitching session, bitchy calms down and cutey is a little more open... I think if I had a good wing that could have distracted bitchy, it could have been on with cutey, maybe coulda been anyway but fuck it. We shoot the shit for a bit then bitchy takes her tights off to show me a tattoo (remember all those shit-tests 5 minutes ago lol) J and P come over at this point and I tell her P is covered in tattoos to try bring them into the conversation. Before it goes any further though just after getting their names and a few more mini shit tests from bitchy, the place starts shooing people out the door. I tell them it was nice meeting them and tell them we're gonna hug, which we do and then we depart. I probably could've got the number from cutey or maybe even both but they were only in town visiting family for a few days and I didn't have really any interest in meeting them again.

All things said and done though, they were the only 2 girls in the entire place and I had a decent conversation with them as well as flexing my social muscles with the shit-tests bitchy kept throwing out.

Lessons

1) One set in the entire place and I made the effort to make it mine, and somewhat succeeded. With a bit more time and if J/P had managed to distract bitchy's attention, perhaps something coulda happened. But this was good nonetheless, for the simple reason that it would have been so easy to say "there's only on set, what's the point" and not approach once, but instead I approached them twice, successfully so (obviously more so the second time, shaky though it was)

2) Shit-tests are fun! When she came out with the "what you're doing" line I actually felt like an excited child, like in my head I was thinking "oh you think you're hot shit? You think you got game? Bitch you gonna love me!" I genuinely had fun testing my mental muscle strength against this shit-tester, especially given her dismissiveness and persistence of telling me they get hit on ALL the time and are used to saying No.

3) Bacon sandwiches at 3am are fucking awesome!! J crashed on my couch and I served them up, 'tis truly a kings dish!

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Been waiting for this day for months, student loan day!! Bought a new suit, secured my new place with my mate for us to move into in two months, passed my driving theory test last week, handed in a big Uni assignment. Truly it is time for some celebration, so me and my Uni mates decided to go for a big night out in suits! (Well, 2 of us wore suits, the rest just did top half)

I arrive fashionably late at the place where we are regulars, I walk in with my 3-piece suit on and I'm not even joking, EVERYONE in the place stared at me, it's not a very big bar so I could see. Spot the manager of the bar and catch up with him, go to the bar and chat with the barman whom I also know, they have a new barmaid who is hot as fuck so I chat with her a bit, making a conscious effort to use downtalk like crazy, the bar is quite busy so we don't get long but she's hanging on my every word, I get her name then go meet my bro's. After a while one guys sister shows up with 2 friends, one of which is bitchy to everyone from the start, the other is pretty hot. I get conversation going with her a bit and make everyone laugh by calling her a witch because she made her nose-ring disappear, only one that got pissed off was bitchy girl as expected. That's the last I really spoke to her, but no worries.

We move on to the next bar and just chat amongst ourselves and have some drinks as it's pretty dead, shortly after we decide to go to the same bar's underground club, on the way down I notice two of my buddies are just stood in the smoking area outside and are deciding to leave. At this point (memory is a bit hazy on this) a girl comes over and starts talking to me, I think about my suit possibly but I can't remember. I quickly go to work and start gaming, her friend comes over and I talk to them both, they're just about to go to the underground bit too. So we head in and my girl (I'll call her Shorty, because she was pretty short) actually buys me a drink, ironically we have the same favourite drink which is cool, we chat for a little bit (about 5 minutes into the interaction) and I've asked for her name about 6/7 times by this point, because I'm shit with names and just told her that, did she get mad? No. Because I was straight up instead of trying some sneaky tactic to get her name from her, eventually she decides to write it on my hand and I say "better idea, put it in my phone" and just get her to put her number in, obviously with her name. So I tell her I've been neglecting my friends and am gonna go join them, but we'll be heading to another venue later and she should join us, she agrees and I pull her in and just start making out with her. Then stop the makeout and tell her I'll text her later on. Rejoin my friends and we're just fucking around having a laugh etc.

Eventually we leave and go to the next venue, I text Shorty and tell her where we've gone. Me and the boys are just having fun now, then I get a tap on the shoulder from a girl that falls into the category of "Would do when drunk", well I was a little drunk. She says it's awesome to see me blah blah, then just when she's about to go back to her friends, gives me a peck goodbye........uh uh, no, she goes to walk off and I physically pull her back and make out a little. Possibly a bad move because then she kept trying to get my attention the rest of the night, ah fuck it.

Eventually Shorty and her friend arrive, greet her with a short makeout, we're now buying each other drinks back and forth though I think she ends up buying more, weirdly both my friends and her friend leave at pretty much the same time, as we just happen to be going back and forth between each other and them. But this is cool. I take her over to a booth so we can get some more serious one-on-one time, she smokes and pops out every once in a while for a cigarette, I leave her to it half the time, not gonna get caught in the trap of following her like a puppy dog. I get a big obstacle at one point when she bumps into a guy she knows and long story short, you know how everyone has that one person they've always had a huge crush on, well that was him for her. I knew I had to act fast so I befriend the guy a little then lead her back to our booth. She then tells me that she's always had a crush on him and blah blah blah, I make a joke like she's just settling for me or some shit, probably not the best move but either way, I quickly steer the conversation away from that guy and back to us. She goes out for a cigarette again and whilst she's out there, 3 girls come and sit in the booth with me (these booths are pretty big) I open them and just start chatting generally, Shorty comes back and we make introductions, then Shorty grabs me and starts making out with me. NOTE: *Pre-selection guys, pre-fucking-selection*

One girl from the 3-set is interested in me as she is constantly trying to talk to me/get my attention etc. but I'm focusing on Shorty as I can tell it's on. Eventually the venue closes and we stand outside a little while and get chatting to some random indian guy who was a little over-the-top friendly and wouldn't leave us alone. We blatantly say we're leaving, he asks where we are going and Shorty says "we're going back to my house" *NICE* he actually invites himself along! And we promptly tell him that isn't happening, some random guy then comes over and helps me out by taking indian dudes attention, me and Shorty start to walk off and indian guy tries to follow, but random guy actually calls him back. Whoever that random guy is I wanna meet him and buy him a pint for being such a good random wingman lol.

So we get back to shorties and the cab ride has taken it's toll a little, we're both on the verge of passing out, we get inside and she puts the tv on for me saying she's wants to tidy her room before we go to bed because it's a mess, I take the opportunity to get some water down me and try to sober up a little. She comes back downstairs and we makeout a bit, then it's problem time, we stop making out for a little while and she passes out, NOOOOOOO. At this point I kinda lost hope. I wake her up and tell her we need to go to bed, we get upstairs and make out some more, I get her down to her panties and start fingering her on the bed, she's moaning etc. but......we now have a new problem, I'm still in a full 3-piece suit, I need to get undressed, at this point she's on top of me and I'm trying to get her as horny as possible to give me time to get undressed. I get up and start getting undressed, as I'm doing so the tiredness sets in her again really badly, and well, by the time I get out of my clothes she's asleep......damn. I try to wake her up but she's out cold, we did have a LOT to drink.

So yeah, that was that. Alcohol fucked me once again, but I guess it makes a change that it wasn't me that it had the most effect on.

Lessons
1) So the suits were great, me and the guys all agreed it was an awesome night and we need to do it more often, the key thing though was, because we knew we were the best dressed people in every venue, we all had shitloads more confidence than normal.

2) Hot barmaid in the bar I'm a regular at is definitely on the hit list, Mondays are always busy in there but me and the guys usually go there when it's quiet, which is how we got to know all the other staff. I made an almost perfect first impression so next time she's in there when I'm there, it is fucking on!

3) My going for the makeout tactic was straight up caveman with both girls. "Would you like to kiss me?" fuck that, lean in and find out.

4) Consciously using downtalk was good, especially with the barmaid which is when I did it the most, it's definitely something I'm going to implement more.

5) Should've planned ahead when I got back to chicks place, should have taken off shoes, tie, jacket, waistcoat, etc the second I got there to make it easier later on. Not a lot I could do once she passed out the second time. It's all a learning experience, but I'd be interested to hear your guys take on this, if there was something else I could've done better there.

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Tuesday - 29/04/2014

Woke up in Shorty's place. 2 things. 1) Her bed is so fucking amazingly comfortable, like, seriously I think it's the most comfortable bed I've ever slept in. 2) Hangover from hell (both of us) we're both still half naked from the night before and I make a pathetic attempt at getting shit going again, I should have been more dominant about it but I just wasn't, maybe it was the hangover but that's just making in excuses. I chill there for a couple hours and she orders us some pizza, we pretty much just talk and get to know each other a little better with the occasional kiss thrown in. She only lives about a 10 minute walk from my place so when she leaves for work (also walking distance) I leave too and we kiss goodbye when parting ways with her telling me to text her later on. It was pretty funny walking home from a night out, at 3pm in the hot sun, dressed in half a dishevelled suit and carrying the rest. I felt like this http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2x7i ... 1_1280.png it was pretty funny, my Uni mates were all having a big convo about the night out on facebook and I just chimed in with a picture of me out in the sun still in my suit, awesome times.

So, later in the day extremely hungover still, a buddy of mine who's rarely ever out starts messaging me to come out. I say no about 100 times because I'm so hungover then just decide fuck it and go out. Problem with Tuesday nights out though, is they are pretty much always dead everywhere. So after jumping around a few different bars we again say "fuck it" and decide to hit up a strip club where I know a bouncer but have never been to, unfortunately that bouncer wasn't working so we had to pay to get in... bad times.
Of course we go in and get hounded but generally it's just a pretty cool place, music isn't too loud so we could have a good chat in there, we got chatting to some dude who was only 18 and it was his first time at a strip club so he was feeling really awkward, was a cool dude though, he was there with like his sister or some friend that was lesbian or something, don't remember much but remember her being fat and batshit crazy.

Me and my buddy have no intention of buying any dances and we're kinda pissing the strippers off haha. I said to him though that because it was so dead, eventually one would come over and not leave. Which happened about 5 minutes later. So I thought fuck it, STRIPPER GAME. Never tried it before but was feeling pretty good despite the hangover so decided to try breaking down her stripper shield, which went pretty well. She opened up to us about where she was from, what she was studying, blah blah blah. We talked about stripping a little because I mentioned I used to work with a stripper so have a lot of respect for them as the girl I knew had said about how much guys would try groping her and that they have to pay to work there then make their money back by getting dances etc, I noticed when I said all this, her shield dropped completely, I could tell she was essentially thinking "Thank fuck for that, a guy who's come here but isn't a complete retard and knows the shit we deal with."

Long story short a few more guys came in so she went to work on them, me and my buddy had a few more drinks, but he was now passing out in the chair so we decided to leave, I got the strippers real name (she'd been going by her stage-name up to that point) but didn't bother going for the number, why? I don't know, I'm a giant pussy. It was fucking hilarious trying to leave though, we were walking out the correct way and some strippers told us it was the other way, so we ended up going on a mini adventure walking through a fucking random corridor, then ended up in a stair well, we saw a door so I went for it, as I did I walked through what felt like 50 god damn spider webs only to find the door was locked, so we headed back to the main dancefloor and the bouncer was not a happy bunny, I said to him we were just trying to find the way out and had got sent that way by some strippers, he escorted us to the exit and that was that.

Me and my mate were both fucking wasted now, he said he was gonna get a taxi home, I actually did. The next morning I woke up fully clothed, sprawled out on my bed, with 2 missed calls and a text from my mate at 6:30am saying that he was STILL in town and had decided to get the first morning train home, I asked him what the fuck happened and haven't heard back so maybe he's dead or something now lol, so fucking funny.

Lessons
1) Ok, tonight wasn't a big gaming night but I drank WAY too much again. Let's just call this week a wash and get back to serious shit next time, and back to the limited drinking.

2) Stripper game was interesting, I should've gone for the number because there was no reason not to really. But it was good practice in getting her to drop her stripper shield nevertheless and at least showed me that it was definitely possible. Shame it went no further though, she was unbelievably hot, like, seriously, fucking unfairly hot and semi-naked, I could barely think straight talking to her lol.

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Arranged to go out with P and J, been texting chick from Monday night (Shorty) some of the day and she mentioned she was gonna drink alone at home this evening, so I suggested I go over to her place after work for a few drinks before heading into town with the boys. Get over there and we flip back and forth between chatting/making out, meanwhile P is blowing up my phone 'cause it's starting to get late and we're gonna miss the bus. Shorty says she's jealous that I'm going out so I invite her along; although I wanted to game tonight, I saw her as a sure thing so checked with P if he minded her coming along, which he says he didn't (I tihnk he did really but fuck it, eye's on the prize). We get to town and go to our usual spot, M, but a slight spanner got thrown into the works as Shorty is a lot more drunk than I thought, turns out she'd already had some drinks before I got to her place and we'd started drinking rum in town; to add to the issue, she bumped into some guys friends - we'd already made clear that neither of us want a relationship right now, but this isn't good for tonight - so I chat with the guys and befriend them, I decide to just chill and assume all is good.

The night goes on a bit, we dance, make out, sexy dance, etc. I bumped into some random guys in the toilet (bathroom for you americans) and some guys mates were trying to talk him out of him getting back with his ex, I rolled in on the dude and explained that he'd already wasted 4 years on a relationship that failed, the fact that it failed once means it is very likely to again, and that time is the one thing in life we don't get back, which is why he feels he needs to make a doomed relationship work, because he's invested so much time. I went on like this for like 5 minutes and the dudes all started calling me Gandalf because I was so wise lol. Anyway go back to Shorty, and as I said before she's hammered, we go to the dancefloor but some guy who I kinda know starts dancing with us and some other girl, he starts getting awfully close to Shorty and in her drunk ass state I can tell she is beginning to want to kiss him, so I pull her to me and resume the usual. Later in the night she bumps into a guy she knew and was seriously getting close like literally after saying hello, still holding my hand she starts to semi lean in to kiss him.......uh, no, I don't think so biatch........I take her hand and put it on my cock to remind her who she's going home with, this throws her train of thought off for a moment, then I cut in properly and tell her we're going to get a drink, then lead her away.

NOTE: *Now, I'm not looking for a relationship with this chick at all, we discussed during the night that we have no problem with each other hooking up with others....but, when you are out with ME, you better believe I ain't having her going around snogging random guys in front of me, to then come back to me, uh uh, do that in your own time hunny, not my time.*

So Friday night draws to a close, she falls asleep in the cab, and as soon as we get back to her place. I'm still pretty sober considering what I'd drank, but spent way more cash than I'd intended. We go up to her room and I had already reserved myself to not getting my dick wet, so got my fingers wet instead just before she passed out........BUT, no fear homies, for I am not leaving it at this.

Saturday - 03/05/2014

Wake up in Shorty's, she's still out cold, I'm thirsty as fuck. After I'd woken up a little bit and she'd been stirring a little/opened her eyes once or twice, that was it, time to do what I should've done last Tuesday. Hand on her va-jay-jay, very subtly rubbing, swiftly move in, yeah she's awake now. She's gives a BJ, then we get down to business, but alas, something I'd forgotten is an Achilles heel of mine, when my mouth is ridiculously dry, little Musterion doesn't wanna play. Personally I thought this was fucking HILARIOUS, seriously guys, this shit happens to everyone and when it does, don't worry about it, just laugh, that's what I did, just made it out like it wasn't a big deal because it wasn't (double entendre thank you very much).
Fortunately she understands, we grab some water and chill for a bit, now I'm revitalised I go for round 2; ahh, that's more like it, we both cum, awesome; pizza arrives, she pays (gentleman, for a hangover, I highly recommend Sausage + Bacon pizza, it's the shit!) we munch, go back upstairs, this time make her cum using just 2 fingers (an invaluable asset when another part of your anatomy is having issues) rewarded with extra long BJ, then fuck again, both cum again. Sorted.....or as the saying seems to be now, ahem. Game.

Lessons

1) Finally got the damn deal sealed with this one, should've been sooner but fuck it, done now, she now has the privilege of being the first girl to begin my rotation.

2) Some girls like to drink, this one does and can't handle it. Not going to invite out with the guys again, this is now gonna be a thing of either we meet at her place, a quiet bar maybe if bored, or at the end of a night as long as she isn't too drunk. Also, whilst we were in M, there was quite a few seriously hot chicks in there, way above M's usual standards, however, knew this chick was a sure thing so made sure to make it happen. Woulda been nice to game them though.

3) She's explained to me that she's bi-sexual and currently 'seeing' a chick...do I smell potential 3-some? I think I do.

4) If you've been drinking, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS take some water to bed with you, if you are crashing with a chick....that shit might be life saving come the morning.

5) Putting her hand on my cock. Sometimes you gotta play dirty to win in this game.

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Shit night.

Went to M for a random Star Wars themed party they had going, went with J and met up with some other dudes there who were with 2 chicks. Didn't really talk to the girls and they ended up getting picked up by two random guys. Opened some chunky girl at the bar I was stood next to with a view to reopen later and hook up with one of her hot friends, I never bothered reopening. Approached some girl stood near the dancefloor saying she looked bored, took her to the dancefloor to start escalating but as soon as I went to take her hand on the dancefloor she fucking physical stepped back, started shaking her head and shit then grabbed her enormous friend and physically put her inbetween us...whatever. Started gaming a chick I met on my bday, all was going well I think, we started holding hands and shit, but for some pussy ass reason I didn't go for the kill. There were MULTIPLE times I could have k-closed her quite easily, and every time I fucking bitched out.

UNACCEPTABLE!! I don't know what was wrong with me, there was no reason why I couldn't have got it, and even less of a reason for me to not at least try. This is made even more annoying by the fact that I'm pretty sure she ended up fucking off with one of our mutual friends, who let's just say has a reputation. I am so pissed at myself right now for pussying out, there is no excuse for it. NOTE: *just remembered one of our friends saying to me at the end of the night that she is apparently 'seeing' the guy she left with*

Guys if you hit that crossroads of "should I go for it or shouldn't i?" ALWAYS TAKE THE SHOT. The girl that rejected me on the dancefloor was nothing, if anything, it was funny, why wouldn't the same be the case with this girl.

lessons

1) Made a bit more effort in approaching but not much, need to work on this.

2) Being a little bitch will get you NOWHERE, fact. There is no fucking excuse for not at least attempting to close!

3) The feeling of "I should've" is SO MUCH WORSE than the feeling of "oh, I got shot down" this needs to be remembered and engrained into my very being, pronto.

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2014 9:46 pm 
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Friday - 16/05/2014

Went to M with P and J, J was pretty drunk when I got there, he'd been drinking wine all night at home before coming out. So will chill out for a bit, M is absolutely dead, we consider going somewhere else but as none of us are millionaires we can't justify spending more money on entry fee to another club; so begrudgedly will stay and I decide fuck it, let's get the drink on!! P buys us some tequila shots and J at this point can barely stand, he'd been texting some girl all night that was literally telling him she wanted his cock and wanted him to come over and see her, he couldn't even type a full sentence, ended up ringing her and saying he was gonna come over to prove he wasn't drunk, so he left. At this point me and P just decided to go wild and pound back the booze. We get chatting to almost everyone in there, mostly at the bar, then I notice a fairly cute short chick at the bar being talked to by some guy who usually works there, he knows me (kind of) so I roll in with the intention of robbing, within about a minute I'm one-on-one with her, chatting away, I'm still not 100% plastered drunk yet but am more drunk than I can be to run game properly; after a while she says she's from Norway and I start blabbing some shit about how I can speak 7 languages including Norwegian, she gets out her phone and types something in Norwegian, like 2 words and asks me what it says, I take her phone and start typing something like "You're the most handsome man I've ever met, you are just completely awesome and I want your babies" I can't remember what I wrote but it was along them lines, she looks at it and pretty much walks off, it was fucking hilarious, I actually had a laughing fit thinking about it when I was hanging with P a couple hours before writing this FR. I chat with the girl again a bit later but she leaves with her friend at some point.

Interestingly, the dude I 'stole' from I got chatting with not long after attempting the steal, he's got some form of dwarfism but is a really cool guy and super confident, he tells me he's married anyway so didn't mind me trying it on with the Norwegian chick and shows me the ring. After a while he asks me if I've ever read 'The Game', I laugh my ass of and tell him that I'm actively involved with PUA, he says whenever I go there and he's there he'll wing me...given that he's married, it's pretty sweet because there'll never be any worry of him stealing or whatever.

More time goes by and I get chatting with the shots girl as per usual, she's got some coloured shots and is shining a torch under them to make a light show, I tell her she has to come to my house warming and bring those so that all the people tripping on whatever drugs they consume get freaked out; she then says "Or I can just supply the drugs" I say people will probably be able to buy weed from somewhere and she says "No, I mean, supply" so me and P yell at the top of our lungs in synchrony "Oh you're a drug dealer!!!!!" she tells us to sshh and then explains she deals a little weed from time to time. I start saying something to her about her coming to the house warming (she actually seemed a little surprised to be invited) and P says "why don't you just get her number" so I say "good fucking point, here" hand her my phone and get her number. I think we danced together a little later on but in a group of people. That's about all I remember until my next memory which is crawling on the floor in my house picking up pieces of my bracelet which snapped as I took it off at 5am.

Lessons

1) Too much booze fucked up the Norwegian chick, but other than her there was no girls in there so I enjoyed having a nice booze up, made the night more fun.

2) Potentially got a new wingman, that could be handy.

3) Shots girl I'm not gonna bother hitting up much, I see her almost every week anyway, gonna build more rapport and try set-up some form of date or whatever when I see her face-to-face, easier.

4) The thing I wrote on Norwegian girls phone is still cracking me up, that's the point of game, to have fun! It would have been funny had she responded well to it, but it was even funnier with the reaction she gave....good times good times.

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PostPosted: Sun May 25, 2014 5:36 pm 
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Saturday - 24/05/2014

Was really not out to game, just wanted to pound some booze back as I was supposed to be camping this weekend, but got fucked over by someone and none of us ended up going. It's both my cousin and P's b'days on the 25th so a load of us went out. I made a couple of flimsy approaches but I was pretty drunk before having even got to the club. I remember getting a little close with some random girl who is friends with my buddy (Mini, mentioned him before) she's renowned for being a bit of a slut so had I not been so trashed I wouldn't have looked twice at her. Anyway at some point in the night I started chilling with the shots girl that I've been running a very slow game on over the past few weeks/months, hard when she's working on commission only to get one-on-one time for more than a few seconds. Anyway, I think when the club kicked out I tried kissing her, she leant away and I was just like whatever, no big deal, but then she said something like she's up for having fun but nothing serious, PERFECT! She said as well she didn't wanna kiss me in/by the club because of it being her place of work or some bullshit.

Alcohol however kinda fucked me again, well maybe it was the booze, I dunno. Go back to her place, we chill for a bit, make out, start undressing each other, I reach down for glory and she moves my hand away saying she wants more foreplay first or some shit, we both get down to our underwear, bra comes off, it's getting heavier, I go for glory again and AGAIN she moves my hand away. Long story short this happened a couple more times then I think I just gave up. Really can't remember much of the details but the fact that I was steaming drunk and she was completely sober may have been a factor. Woke up this morning then with a fucking insane hangover, dry-mouth like a motherfucker and bailed. Kind of an awkward kiss when I left, like when I leaned in to kiss her goodbye she flinched a little, well I say flinch, basically didn't seem like she wanted to, we did but it felt weird. I dunno, fuck it, I'll be seeing her again no doubt in the club anyway haha.

Lessons

1) Definitely had more of a don't give a shit mentality last night, ok that led me to drink heavily which in turn could've been why I didn't seal the deal with shots girl, but I digress, it was a fucking fun night.

2) Shots girl situation seems a little weird, can't tell whether this was like a 1 chance and blew it scenario or if there's gonna be another opportunity to make this right, either way I'll be fucking trying haha.

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