Dude, you need to chill.

Four hours is nothing. Last night, she texted you at fucking midnight, probably buzzed and out with friends, looking for a hook up which you flopped on, lol.

Hot, younger women don't want you to pick them up on the first date and take them to five places in a night. Many just get right to the point and want sex. If it's not good, they'll bounce.

Wait for her to respond. If she texts you at midnight again, invite her over.

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I think I'm starting to get the picture... I'm still an amateur.

And what if she doesn't contact me? Do I ever contact her again? When and how?

If she does not contact you, wait 7 to 14 days and use this:

"Hey, work has been crazy. Let's grab drinks at Bar X, 9pm on Xday".

a lot of guys will text this instead:

"Hey, how's your day? My friends and I went and did this. What do you think of that, bla bla," and have small talk.

This is known as "comfort building", but IMHO it's weak. Asking a girl to meet up quickly weeds out the girls who are blown away by you and the fence sitters. You don't want to have to be in a position to convince a girl to do anything. It's not a dominant frame.

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HAHA was about to tell him the same exact thing.

You need to be meeting more women. Embrace abundance and you will never again know or care how long it's been since you texted her.

Do what Arch is saying, he is on point.

This entire thread is the reason to "warm up".
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Yes women want sex but that doesn't mean they'll be having it with the guy she spoke for two minutes at fucking Starbucks? God damn.
And bad sex is not the primary reason for their bouncing. They bounce way before sex even happens. Otherwise every idiot would be getting laid left and right simply because women are horny and he happens to have a dick.
Why would she have said yes? That's a legit question, put yourself in her shoes and find a reason as to why she'd go out with you.

Arch says shit like "Women want passion" and "Women want excitement", and he's right, but then he tells you to go complete caveman, barely spit two words in her general direction and then immediately ask her out as if you just blew her mind. And that's a contradiction.

Your approach was good, but you need to realize that if you want a woman to go out with you, you need to give her a reason. Yes she was interested, but interest doesn't mean she's sold on committing 2 hours of her time to you simply because what? You shook her hand and asked her name? 24 hours in a day wouldn't be time enough if she'd go out with every guy that asks based on that alone.

This caveman style is literally the "going in dry" of seduction. A woman will not go out with you without reason. You have to flirt. Don't "warm her up" but flirt with her. Make her want to meet you.
Or in other words, seduce her.

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Thanks R.C for your insight. Is there anything you recommend I do at this point or is it a lost cause?

If you think there's hope with her, when and how should I contact her again? Any specific advice on how to seduce her over text?

Thanks.

Arch I urge you to find one piece of advice given by any known member of this board that even remotely resembles texting a woman "Hey, how's your day".
That is most certainly not comfort building. It's clueless texting. That's for other people reading this thread.

Anyway, OP, there's a link to a guide in my signature if you want to go in detail about text game.
As far as whether or not this is salvagable, if you sent that netflix line, I doubt it. The line itself is not bad per se, but the context isn't there. And without context it translates to "Nice shoes. Wanna fuck?"
Either way, let her get back to you and once she does we can take it from there. If she doesn't, then well you have your answer.

Always aim to form some kind of emotional connection or bond before you ask a woman out. You have tips for that in my thread, but it's most definitely not asking how her day was. Ever. I don't even ask my girlfriend that.

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This thread is more of a "lesson" than "warming up" IMHO.

Many idiots do get laid, but then they can never get the girl to return their calls, lol.

I give advice based on context. This woman followed the OP out of an establishment. She was aggressive. And the midnight text also, IMHO, hints at a more sexually confident woman.


No, again you have to pay attention to context. This woman hit him up in person.

she's already seen him in person, and obviously likes what she sees (unless the OP texted her a bunch of weird stuff I don't know about).

Her liking how he looks is a good reason.
If you follow the five basic principles, and keep very fit, you don't have to "give a reason". A woman will just be attracted enough to you to want to hang out.

If a man isn't hitting the gym, and is playing video games in his spare time, doesn't have abundance mentality, and doesn't have 2-3 women on his phone he can dial up and have anytime, he's probably going to have to chase more and do more convincing.

The girl chased the OP out of the place to talk to him. Unless he texted emotionally or too much, she's just going to want to come over, IMHO.

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It's euphemism. In the PUA community, there's a lot of really gamey, canned lines (mostly taught by men with feminine, muscle-less bodies). The more you evolve, and the more you improve, the less small talk you have to have with a woman.

clueless texting is, IMHO, the single biggest place where most guys fuck up. It's hilarious. I was there, so I get it.
Again, if you are fit, you don't have to do this. She'll just want the physical, and good physical will make emotional connections easier. Studies have proven muscles increase first night hookups by some 30-40%.

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Arch, what you said here is exactly what happened and I didn't text her any weird stuff. Only what you told me.

I was thinking of going to the same cafe around the same time as that day and see if she's there. (There's a good chance cause I think she works around there and that day she may have been on her break or something.)

Is that a good idea? If yes, what should the interaction and coversation be like?

If no, should I still text her in a week or two with what you suggested earlier?

Thanks.

You can do both things.

If you see her in the next few days at the cafe, just act busy and say "hey," in a very friendly way then cut it off. If she chases in the cafe, ask her out using the Bar X line.

If nothing happens in person, ask her out in a couple weeks via text.

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I agree small talk is a waste. But nobody suggested small talk. I said flirting.

And Arch, being fit makes it easier to form that bond, but not unnecessary. And he did not do that. At all.

Also her liking how he looks is not a good enough reason. If it were he'd have fucked her due to the Netflix line by now. I see women I like everyday. I don't go out with all of them.

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R.C, I never sent her the Netflix line. I tried rescheduling for Sunday, but no response. Anything you'd recommend at this point, or is it a lost cause?

Dude. I gave you fantastic advice. The girl just wanted a fling, not endless date set up machinations.

I advise simple, direct and to the point correspondence with women for a very good reason.

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Got it Arch. I'll go see if I can see her at the cafe and follow your advice and see what happens.

By the way I found her on instagram and facebook. Do you advise doing anything with that?