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1. A girl agrees to a date. It means she thinks you're cute.
2. You invite her out for a DRINK around 8-10 pm. You make her pay for the drink. There's you're fucking qualification.
3. You show slight indifference, sit in your own space, relaxed, and drop in occasional sexual innuendo and shocking honesty.
4. You invite the girl over to your place 30-45 minutes in.

Yeah because you're reading too many PUA books, lol. Go to the gym.
There's a quote in the writing community that goes like this: "Show, don't tell." It applies to dating as well. You're trying to "tell" a girl your value. That makes women roll their eyes unless you're actually famous.

I go to the gym. I have muscles. I walk into a room like I own it. I hold my nose up at any woman who is not my exact type. I tease, am playful, and slightly aloof. I attract women without saying a word. I SHOW what I am.
That is true, my friend. Nice guys are great at long, stable careers and being providers. But they suck at experience with women.

And 27 is not even close to old. I laughed a little bit at that, haha. I'm 41 and my gf is smoking hot 21 year old.

Age does not matter for men. Fitness does.



I can tell the crux of your problem. You're out of shape. Put down the PUA books and hit the gym. You want moderate weight training, every other day for an hour. Cut your carbs to 60 grams a day or less.

Look at the bolded words. You aren't able to attract the women you are attracted to because you are out of shape.

Let me clarify: fitness is the single most important factor in attracting women initially. Period.

That is absolute bullshit. Scientific studies have proven muscular men have a 40% greater occurence of one night stands, or "first date sex".

Now, being a muscle head won't keep the girl coming back. You still need to be emotionally-centered, fun, good in bed, and playful/teasing. But it will significantly increase first date sex. Women absolutely love muscular men.

P.S.: If your hair is really thinning, shave it. This makes men look weaker than they really are.

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Being 5'10'' 150 lbs, cutting my carbs to 60 grams/day would not be beneficial.
Women do love muscular men as an additional characteristic to confidence, sense of humour, and ambition. Being muscular mainly helps the initial attraction like you said. I've been struggling after the initial attraction so I don't believe my body frame is holding me back much. I'm just not in the best possible shape which is to be muscular. This could be improved and would be an additional benefit. Though, I see many out of shape men with attractive women because of their wit, personality and confidence.

Cutting carbs is beneficial for most less active men. But feel free to carb away.
Right. So do all of those things.


Who cares what those men do? The goal is personal evolution. Improve in all areas. If you are not going to the gym and lifting, you are decreasing your chances of first night sex.

That's science.

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Very funny thread, very funny guy.

One of the funniest things I've heard on this [largely autistic] site is the muscle shit.

Ok here's where the myth is debunked.

When a dipshit gets himself some muscles, he gets a new attitude.

The attitude gets the girl.

Muscles don't do shit in regard to girls, because they aren't attracted to physical appearance. Men are.

All muscles will get you is homosexual attention. The reason why, is explained right above.

Btw, a video was made a couple years ago in response to "Hot Girl walks through NYC". This time it was a "hot man" - the type Arch is talking about with the muscles and all. 90% of the remarks he got were from homosexuals, the other 10% from groups of high school girls.

Speaking of which...

Arch's girlfriends are all teenies.

Now, people often associate with their equals..."Birds of a feather".

You can just notice on your own, that most [wise] old men don't fuck with teeny boppers.

Think about that.

I remember arch mention getting in bar fights. And just now, I saw him try a "race of testosterone" - the picture war on this thread.

You all talk about emotionalism. About womanly stuff.

-Meaningless fist fights
-Meaningless arguments
-Physical appearance valued above all

Come to your own conclusions.

P.S. I'd like to give some real advice, in light of arch's dust.
Too many people here get told to go to the gym, in response to complaints about confidence.
95% of guys out there who aren't confident - jack off every day. They need to stop jacking off, not go to the gym.
I even know myself, because over a year ago when I was new to the site, I kept getting ordered to go to the gym by you forum fools, so I began going to the gym every day but something was still totally off.
Later on, by my own research (which has served me much better than this faggot ass forum) I found out what it was.
Not surprisingly, I know more than a few motherfuckers at the gym who are "ripped" but can't hold conversations beyond "Yes, no, thanks" - with neither women nor men...I wonder why...

Stop it with this "Go to the gym" dust. STOP JACKING OFF - is the correct response to 95% of the young fools coming on here for advice. Watch what I say, young man!

Arch's advice and character is more that of a biker...A retarded redneck biker, who wants to make up for unpopularity during high school. Know this type all too well.

If you answered those questions truthfully then you're doing better than most guys. Are you sure you're trying enough? As in, meeting women with at least some regularity?
You're idealistic at best if you think looks don't play a part. Sure, attitude is the backbone. But before she gets to know your attitude she needs to be interested in knowing it in the first place. And saying women are not attracted to physical appearance is straight up bullshit.
Granted, a photoshopped body doesn't rank in importance as high for women as does for men. But not ranking AS high is not the same as not ranking at all.

And you're straight up delusional if you think 2 guys with the same attitude, where one is in good physical shape and the other isn't, are seen equally as attractive and will have equal success. The first will do better every single time.

I never understood this duality. I swear it's like people believe the two are mutually exclusive. You can work on being in good shape and nurture a strong character at the same time. In fact, being in good shape does nothing but help with that.

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Ha ha..another comedian. I know you like to argue for fun. Clocking in thousands of posts. Anyway..
When you're out "sarging" as these kids call it, nobody's going to lift up your shirt to see if you're flabby there. At this time of year, these buldging muscles of yours won't even be visible when you're wearing a coat. What you are saying - is irrelevant.

If you had read carefully instead of focusing on arguing - I never said anywhere to neglect your health. I don't place exaggerated emphasis on appearance, like another forum clown "Hey Wood" told someone just now that they must go to the gym every day for 3 hours for the next 8 years. First and foremost - cut masturbation because that's the number one plague right now.

If you placed a woman in an un-natural, staged scenario where she'd be on a panel judging men's bodies, yes she could say the muscle head looks better (a result of media ruthlessly pounding concocted images into sheeples' heads) , but it won't be of consequence to his approach.

For the brothers out there reading my post:
http://www.themodernman.com/dating/do-w ... truth.html
http://www.themodernman.com/dating/do-w ... looks.html

Last reply. I won't indulge comedians or full-time forum babblers.