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Here is a quote from an actual expert in the field and not a staff writer from a magazine when someone asked the question about the statistics that you are hanging your hat on.
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This bears repeating: Only one-quarter of women reliably experience orgasm during intercourse-no matter how long it lasts, no matter what size the man's penis, and no matter how the woman feels about the man or the relationship.

This statistic comes not from just one study, but from a comprehensive analysis of 33 studies over the past 80 years by Elisabeth Lloyd in her fascinating book The Case of the Female Orgasm (Harvard University Press).

It is a fascinating read. 33 studies over 80 years, all peer reviewed.
With 336 citations, that's one solid study notwithstanding that it's published by Cambridge: Harvard University Press. I guess the older Hite, Kinsey, and Masters and Johnson studies, while influential, need some updating to keep up with newer technologies and equipment, and more improved research methodologies.

A well cited meta analysis of research work spanning 80 years is certainly a huge body of empirical evidence that does not equate to someone tooting her own horn or one who is not skillful enough with metaphysics or the rudiments of biology and human sexuality. Lloyd also happens to be a woman which gives her added credibility when it comes to female orgasms. I would certainly be impressed if she had coitus with at least 500 men and has a collection of +1,000 vibrators of all shapes and sizes.

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Here is a quote from an actual expert in the field and not a staff writer from a magazine when someone asked the question about the statistics that you are hanging your hat on.
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This bears repeating: Only one-quarter of women reliably experience orgasm during intercourse-no matter how long it lasts, no matter what size the man's penis, and no matter how the woman feels about the man or the relationship.

This statistic comes not from just one study, but from a comprehensive analysis of 33 studies over the past 80 years by Elisabeth Lloyd in her fascinating book The Case of the Female Orgasm (Harvard University Press).
It is a fascinating read. 33 studies over 80 years, all peer reviewed.
Pay attention to the sentence. "Only one-quarter of women RELIABLY experience orgasm during intercourse-no matter how long it lasts..."

You have to pay attention to the words. It doesn't say only one-quarter of women can experience orgasm. It's talking about consistency in this case. Nice try though.

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I agree with Jack here. Hitting the Gspot really isn't rocket science and if it comes down to it, the bend is more important than size because it allows for more flexible angles.
Every girl I've fucked has been grateful for the bigger dick, many who say they've never come that way before. Size most definitely matters for intercourse stimulation only.

Another peer reviewed study from The Journal of Sex Medicine. This one proves women climax easier with big penis' and intercourse alone than with small penises, which holds up my theory:

http://www.livescience.com/23785-penis- ... gasms.html
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Supporting the hypothesis that size matters, Brody and his colleagues found the women who reported the highest number of vaginal orgasms in the past month were most likely to say that longer was better.

"This might be(meaning he's not sure why) due at least in part to greater ability of a longer penis to stimulate the entire length of the vagina, and the cervix," Brody said.
You left out some important information in that little snippet you provided:

"In the new study, Brody and his colleagues asked 323 women, mostly Scottish university students, to recall past sexual encounters. They were asked about their recent sexual behaviors as well as how important penile-vaginal intercourse and other sex acts were to them. They were also asked whether penis length influenced their ability to orgasm with vaginal stimulation.

Defining "average" as the length of a 20-pound banknote or U.S. dollar bill, which are 5.8 inches (14.9 cm) and 6.1 inches (15.5 cm) long, respectively, the researchers asked women if they were more likely to orgasm vaginally with a longer-than-average or shorter-than-average penis. [Macho Man: 10 Wild Facts About His Body]

They found that 160 of the women experienced vaginal-only orgasms and had enough sexual partners to compare size experiences. Of these, 33.8 percent preferred longer-than-average penises, 60 percent said size made no difference and 6.3 percent said longer was less pleasurable than shorter."
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Women that have had experience with having orgasms with both an average sized penis and with a larger one, only a third of them say that size matters. Keep in mind they still have orgasms with the average sized guy. The majority still say size does not matter.

Arch, I know that you're experienced with women and the things that they say. Do you know who is always better at of all the guys at sex? It's the current guy. You know who always has the best guys penis of all the guys? The current guy. When I have sex with a girl...they always say that I'm the best and the biggest. When they move on, the next guy will be the best and the biggest. Or it's the girl that tells you that they've never enjoyed sex until you.

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This is the nerdiest conversation ever on this forum and I fucking love it.
And I got more. Such as this statement from one of Arch's links from Psychology Today:
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This is the nerdiest conversation ever on this forum and I fucking love it.
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Arch, I know that you're experienced with women and the things that they say. Do you know who is always better at of all the guys at sex? It's the current guy. You know who always has the best guys penis of all the guys? The current guy. When I have sex with a girl...they always say that I'm the best and the biggest. When they move on, the next guy will be the best and the biggest. Or it's the girl that tells you that they've never enjoyed sex until you.
Not so sure about this part though. Some guys are systematically called the best. Most however are not. Most I know anyway.

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Arch, I know that you're experienced with women and the things that they say. Do you know who is always better at of all the guys at sex? It's the current guy. You know who always has the best guys penis of all the guys? The current guy. When I have sex with a girl...they always say that I'm the best and the biggest. When they move on, the next guy will be the best and the biggest. Or it's the girl that tells you that they've never enjoyed sex until you.
Not so sure about this part though. Some guys are systematically called the best. Most however are not. Most I know anyway.
Well damn...maybe I am the best. Fucking humbleness has gone to my head.

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Arch, I know that you're experienced with women and the things that they say. Do you know who is always better at of all the guys at sex? It's the current guy. You know who always has the best guys penis of all the guys? The current guy. When I have sex with a girl...they always say that I'm the best and the biggest. When they move on, the next guy will be the best and the biggest. Or it's the girl that tells you that they've never enjoyed sex until you.

I disagree with this. Hot women will plow through a line of men on a regular basis until they find a dominant male who is great in bed. Then they get obsessed, the lesser orbiters fade away lol, and its the guy who does the dumping.

Most men have no clue in bed, whether being too passive, not leading, lack of passions, lack of orgasm skills, etc. It's why my ex flings always try to come back, even if they did the dumping.

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Arch, I know that you're experienced with women and the things that they say. Do you know who is always better at of all the guys at sex? It's the current guy. You know who always has the best guys penis of all the guys? The current guy. When I have sex with a girl...they always say that I'm the best and the biggest. When they move on, the next guy will be the best and the biggest. Or it's the girl that tells you that they've never enjoyed sex until you.

I disagree with this. Hot women will plow through a line of men on a regular basis until they find a dominant male who is great in bed. Then they get obsessed, the lesser orbiters fade away lol, and its the guy who does the dumping.

Most men have no clue in bed, whether being too passive, not leading, lack of passions, lack of orgasm skills, etc. It's why my ex flings always try to come back, even if they did the dumping.
Except the flings who don't try to come back.

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Arch, I know that you're experienced with women and the things that they say. Do you know who is always better at of all the guys at sex? It's the current guy. You know who always has the best guys penis of all the guys? The current guy. When I have sex with a girl...they always say that I'm the best and the biggest. When they move on, the next guy will be the best and the biggest. Or it's the girl that tells you that they've never enjoyed sex until you.

I disagree with this. Hot women will plow through a line of men on a regular basis until they find a dominant male who is great in bed. Then they get obsessed, the lesser orbiters fade away lol, and its the guy who does the dumping.

Most men have no clue in bed, whether being too passive, not leading, lack of passions, lack of orgasm skills, etc. It's why my ex flings always try to come back, even if they did the dumping.
Arch...you disagree with everything. You even disagree with the articles that you post.

Your original statements were that women prefer a larger penis and relieved when the get a big one. Then YOU provided articles that proved that point incorrect. If you're looking to find something to be right about...fine. I'm wrong and all those women that said I was the biggest and the best are correct. Hey, we both learned something.

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I agree with Jack here. Hitting the Gspot really isn't rocket science and if it comes down to it, the bend is more important than size because it allows for more flexible angles.
Every girl I've fucked has been grateful for the bigger dick, many who say they've never come that way before. Size most definitely matters for intercourse stimulation only.

Another peer reviewed study from The Journal of Sex Medicine. This one proves women climax easier with big penis' and intercourse alone than with small penises, which holds up my theory:

http://www.livescience.com/23785-penis- ... gasms.html
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Supporting the hypothesis that size matters, Brody and his colleagues found the women who reported the highest number of vaginal orgasms in the past month were most likely to say that longer was better.

"This might be(meaning he's not sure why) due at least in part to greater ability of a longer penis to stimulate the entire length of the vagina, and the cervix," Brody said.
You left out some important information in that little snippet you provided:

"In the new study, Brody and his colleagues asked 323 women, mostly Scottish university students, to recall past sexual encounters. They were asked about their recent sexual behaviors as well as how important penile-vaginal intercourse and other sex acts were to them. They were also asked whether penis length influenced their ability to orgasm with vaginal stimulation.

Defining "average" as the length of a 20-pound banknote or U.S. dollar bill, which are 5.8 inches (14.9 cm) and 6.1 inches (15.5 cm) long, respectively, the researchers asked women if they were more likely to orgasm vaginally with a longer-than-average or shorter-than-average penis. [Macho Man: 10 Wild Facts About His Body]

They found that 160 of the women experienced vaginal-only orgasms and had enough sexual partners to compare size experiences. Of these, 33.8 percent preferred longer-than-average penises, 60 percent said size made no difference and 6.3 percent said longer was less pleasurable than shorter."
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Women that have had experience with having orgasms with both an average sized penis and with a larger one, only a third of them say that size matters. Keep in mind they still have orgasms with the average sized guy. The majority still say size does not matter.

Arch, I know that you're experienced with women and the things that they say. Do you know who is always better at of all the guys at sex? It's the current guy. You know who always has the best guys penis of all the guys? The current guy. When I have sex with a girl...they always say that I'm the best and the biggest. When they move on, the next guy will be the best and the biggest. Or it's the girl that tells you that they've never enjoyed sex until you.
You have a pessimistic take on the numbers. Guys with big cocks have a 93.8% advantage versus guys with small cocks at 6.3% and a 33.8% advantage over guys with average dicks. Guys with average dicks, meanwhile, have 53.7% advantage versus guys with small dicks.

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You have a pessimistic take on the numbers. Guys with big cocks have a 93.8% advantage versus guys with small cocks at 6.3% and a 33.8% advantage over guys with average dicks. Guys with average dicks, meanwhile, have 53.7% advantage versus guys with small dicks.
How is that a pessimistic take on numbers? You have 3 girls that say that they can orgasm off of a penis alone and only 1 of them care about the size of the penis. The one still can have an orgasm off the average sized penis. The average guy is going to be very happy with his odds while the guy with the bigger penis is not worried about a thing. It seems like you are more of a pessimist when it comes to the take on the numbers. FFS...I'm actually the one giving guys more hope when it comes to the numbers.

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Except the flings who don't try to come back.
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You have a pessimistic take on the numbers. Guys with big cocks have a 93.8% advantage versus guys with small cocks at 6.3% and a 33.8% advantage over guys with average dicks. Guys with average dicks, meanwhile, have 53.7% advantage versus guys with small dicks.
How is that a pessimistic take on numbers? You have 3 girls that say that they can orgasm off of a penis alone and only 1 of them care about the size of the penis. The one still can have an orgasm off the average sized penis. The average guy is going to be very happy with his odds while the guy with the bigger penis is not worried about a thing. It seems like you are more of a pessimist when it comes to the take on the numbers. FFS...I'm actually the one giving guys more hope when it comes to the numbers.
Jack, you're black. Based on the odds, we can safely infer that you have a big, black cock. Your initial implications are putting yourself at an understated advantage. Hence, you're a pessimist.

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You have a pessimistic take on the numbers. Guys with big cocks have a 93.8% advantage versus guys with small cocks at 6.3% and a 33.8% advantage over guys with average dicks. Guys with average dicks, meanwhile, have 53.7% advantage versus guys with small dicks.
How is that a pessimistic take on numbers? You have 3 girls that say that they can orgasm off of a penis alone and only 1 of them care about the size of the penis. The one still can have an orgasm off the average sized penis. The average guy is going to be very happy with his odds while the guy with the bigger penis is not worried about a thing. It seems like you are more of a pessimist when it comes to the take on the numbers. FFS...I'm actually the one giving guys more hope when it comes to the numbers.
Jack, you're black. Based on the odds, we can safely infer that you have a big, black cock. Your initial implications are putting yourself at an understated advantage. Hence, you're a pessimist.
So you're saying that if I were a member of a different race where the odds of the penis size is considered to be average, then I would be an optimist about the numbers? That makes absolutely no sense to me.

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