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You don't need a big dick to stimulate it.
Most women cannot orgasm from intercourse (around 80%). Because most dicks are too small, lol. A big dick can really hit that spot, put good pressure on it. I've been with women who can't orgasm from intercourse alone on my 8 inches, but can with a huge dildo.

Women like it dirty, man. And yeah ,it does depend on the woman, but the intercourse orgasm numbers are very interesting:

http://www.womansday.com/relationships/ ... ms-111985/
Again, it's not the fact that guys can't do it...it's more of knowing how. If you were to jerk off, you can probably bust your load in under a minute. Let a girl jerk you off...it'll probably take her forever to get the job done. So is it surprising that a girl can give herself an orgasm with a dildo and a guy can't do it with his dick? No...especially if the guy doesn't know how to stimulate and hit the gspot. Hell, if you let a girl ride you and you have the stamina...she'll have an orgasm with you doing absolutely no work no matter how big your dick is (well...at least the required length to hit her spot).

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:10 pm 
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So is it surprising that a girl can give herself an orgasm with a dildo and a guy can't do it with his dick?
Self-pleasure has nothing to do with it, really. Anyone can be doing it.
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No...especially if the guy doesn't know how to stimulate and hit the gspot.

If your dick isn't big enough, it's not going to put enough pressure on the spot. Again, look at the science. Most women cannot orgasm from intercourse alone, even if the guy is able to hit her g-spot.
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Hell, if you let a girl ride you and you have the stamina...she'll have an orgasm with you doing absolutely no work no matter how big your dick is (well...at least the required length to hit her spot).

Most women cannot come from intercourse alone. Around 80%. Most need clitoral stimulation. I've had women who orgasm no problem from my dick only, but they are the minority, as studies indicate.

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Self-pleasure has nothing to do with it, really. Anyone can be doing it.
You missed the point.
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If your dick isn't big enough, it's not going to put enough pressure on the spot. Again, look at the science. Most women cannot orgasm from intercourse alone, even if the guy is able to hit her g-spot.
It's not the pressure that does it...it's the stimulation. When you finger a girl's gspot, you are stimulating with friction and not with pressure. The same reason that vibrators aren't gigantic like dildos. If it were pressure...all a guy with big dick would have to do is be inside her without moving and wait for her to orgasm.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:41 pm 
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It's not the pressure that does it...it's the stimulation.
Pressure is part of stimulation. Which is why 80% of women can't have orgasms from intercourse.

I have seen women orgasm just from a big dildo inside them, barely moving at all. And they were powerful orgasms.

Every woman I've met can orgasm from fingers stimulating the g-spot and by licking the clitoris. But we are talking about intercourse, and no other stimulation.

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It's not the pressure that does it...it's the stimulation.
Pressure is part of stimulation. Which is why 80% of women can't have orgasms from intercourse.

I have seen women orgasm just from a big dildo inside them, barely moving at all. And they were powerful orgasms.

Every woman I've met can orgasm from fingers stimulating the g-spot and by licking the clitoris. But we are talking about intercourse, and no other stimulation.
Where are you getting this information? Even your link says that 30% of women have problems getting an orgasm. 80% find it difficult with just penetration...nowhere does it say impossible. Nowhere does it talk about pressure and logically it doesn't make sense. If your fingers aren't using pressure and it's just the stimulation of them massaging the gspot and your dick can do the same thing as long as it's hitting the spot. If you can put a girl in doggy style for 15-20 minutes and give her consistent rhythmic thrusts, you won't hear anything about most women can't have an orgasm by penetration alone.

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If you can put a girl in doggy style for 15-20 minutes and give her consistent rhythmic thrusts, you won't hear anything about most women can't have an orgasm by penetration alone.

Science is a great thing:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Reproducti ... id=8485289
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About 75 percent of all women never reach orgasm from intercourse alone -- that is without the extra help of sex toys, hands or tongue.

These numbers sound about right to me. I've had gf's who can orgasm just from intercourse, but most cannot. It does not matter how long you go, etc, or how well you aim. Some women just need that big pressure inside of them to go off without clit stimulation.

And if you're banging a girl doggystyle for 20 minutes, you're boring her, lol.

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Science is a great thing:

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Reproducti ... id=8485289
Arch...you're not saying anything. You're point was that you have to have a big dick if you want to give a female an orgasm because they need the pressure. Now you're posting articles that speak nothing about pressure nor dick size. They're just quoting numbers of females that have difficulty having orgasms and then a few quotes from a few women that are wondering what's wrong with them. These same women don't want to say anything to the guy because they don't want to fuck up his ego. So how many of them are just submitting to what the guy wants and in return getting nothing out of it?
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These numbers sound about right to me. I've had gf's who can orgasm just from intercourse, but most cannot. It does not matter how long you go, etc, or how well you aim. Some women just need that big pressure inside of them to go off without clit stimulation.

And if you're banging a girl doggystyle for 20 minutes, you're boring her, lol.
It's crazy to say that these numbers line up with what you've experienced and that most girls that you've been with can't have an orgasm by penetration alone even though you have that bigger dick to supply the pressure that they need. Or how you said earlier in the thread that they are relieved that your dick is bigger than what they've had in the past. If your numbers match up with the numbers in these articles that you are providing to us, you're saying that penis size doesn't matter. Math is a great thing.

And you're only boring her if you can't give her pleasure while doing it. You can give a girl a back massage for 20 minutes and if it feels good she won't want you to stop that either.

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There's this NCBI PubMed study that says 75% of men bust their loads within 2 minutes. Somehow, this lines up pretty well on some of the studies that say 80% of women fail to achieve orgasm thru vaginal intercourse.

As for vaginal orgasms, there are several other spots that men can stimulate at certain durations to bring women to multiple vaginal orgasms. Women can have pubococygeus muscle orgasms, cervical orgasms and orgasms that hit at the 6 o' clock position of their vagina somewhere around their rectum and sphincter at the deep end.

My fuck routine goes something like this:

Step 1. Two to three clitoral orgasms.

Step 2. Three to five g-spot orgasms.

Step 3. One pc muscle orgasm.

Step 4. Two to three doggie style orgasms (6 o' clock position in the vagina).

Step 5. Cervical orgasms - ad infinitum until I bust my load.

Step 6. Repeat Step 1 as you are recovering from busting your load.

Step 7. Proceed to Step 2 onwards until the woman is having violent convulsions and mascular spasms.

Sometimes, my performance is not too good. The good thing about the above routine is that women are always assured, at least, of a clitoral orgasm. Moreover, based on experience, women are more likely to experience vaginal orgasms after they have had 2-3 clitoral orgasms compared with aiming straight for vaginal orgasms.

OP, to be comfortable in being sexual immerse yourself in the discussion of sexual topics like this. It's one way to help you go from casual to sexual.

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Arch...you're not saying anything. You're point was that you have to have a big dick if you want to give a female an orgasm because they need the pressure. [/quote]

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

Numerous studies indicate that 75-80% of women cannot orgasm from intercourse alone. There are theories behind this, like the distance from clitoris to vagina opening on women (the closer, the easier for them to orgasm).


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It's crazy to say that these numbers line up with what you've experienced and that most girls that you've been with can't have an orgasm by penetration alone even though you have that bigger dick to supply the pressure that they need.
I've banged girls who orgasm in 30 seconds from regular intercourse, girls who orgasm from a vibrator on their clit and my dick inside them, my fingers inside them and my tongue on their clit, and from big dildos barely moving inside them with no outside stimulation. Making women orgasm is easy. However, if you understand science, studies verify that most women cannot orgasm from intercourse alone. I have found that some of these women CAN orgasm just from intercourse if using big dildos. Yeah man, sometimes 8 inches isn't enough. No big deal.

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Or how you said earlier in the thread that they are relieved that your dick is bigger than what they've had in the past.
Yes, they all say this. But my dick is no guarantee to make a girl who can't cum from intercourse alone, cum. Because science will tell you, most girls don't cum that way. That's why it's good to know how to use your tongue and fingers, and good to have an open mind to bring toys into the bedroom.

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Are you being deliberately obtuse?

Numerous studies indicate that 75-80% of women cannot orgasm from intercourse alone. There are theories behind this, like the distance from clitoris to vagina opening on women (the closer, the easier for them to orgasm).
Arch, I know you're smarter than that. I know that you've read the articles that you posted. Not one of them say that 75-80% of women cannot orgasm from intercourse alone. It says difficulty and the doesn't mean "cannot". My grandfather has difficulty standing up because he has bad knees...it doesn't mean that he can't stand up.
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I've banged girls who orgasm in 30 seconds from regular intercourse, girls who orgasm from a vibrator on their clit and my dick inside them, my fingers inside them and my tongue on their clit, and from big dildos barely moving inside them with no outside stimulation. Making women orgasm is easy. However, if you understand science, studies verify that most women cannot orgasm from intercourse alone. I have found that some of these women CAN orgasm just from intercourse if using big dildos. Yeah man, sometimes 8 inches isn't enough. No big deal.
You're moving away from your original statements of how women prefer bigger dicks and what a bigger dick can do. You're articles and your experience prove otherwise and your argument to that..."Well then it's not big enough." There is no proof of that. If there was, you'd post that article or study just like you did the others. Remember, these aren't really studies...they're interviews. No scientist is sitting there watching those women have sex and confirming that there is no orgasm after getting banged for X amount of hours to prove that it's impossible. There aren't any control groups. It's just interviews
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Yes, they all say this. But my dick is no guarantee to make a girl who can't cum from intercourse alone, cum. Because science will tell you, most girls don't cum that way. That's why it's good to know how to use your tongue and fingers, and good to have an open mind to bring toys into the bedroom.
Scroll up and read Monsignor Crisanto on the study of men and how long it takes for the average man to cum and then put that on your number of women that have difficulties having orgasms. If men cum in under 10 minutes and it takes in the double digit minutes for the average woman to have an orgasm wouldn't a rationale person be able to make that correlation? Even more to the point, a guy that thinks a girl that would be bored for 20 minutes in the sexual position that's the most stimulating to the vagina going to understand that correlation?

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The study says 75% of women can't orgasm from intercourse alone. Pretty clear. Numerous studies say this, and yes, interviews are part of peer reviewed scientific journals.

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The study says 75% of women can't orgasm from intercourse alone. Pretty clear. Numerous studies say this, and yes, interviews are part of peer reviewed scientific journals.
Quote the statement here and link the article. Don't quote "difficult" or the study "suggests", quote where it says it is impossible or it can't be done because the former means that it may or may not be true.

Here is a quote from an actual expert in the field and not a staff writer from a magazine when someone asked the question about the statistics that you are hanging your hat on. It even mentions one of your articles of giving inaccurate information.
http://www.lehmiller.com/blog/2013/2/1/ ... sm-fr.html
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I often see statistics that indicate 50% of women can't orgasm or 75% can't orgasm from penetration alone. Can you point me to the sources of said statistics and could you explain what exactly "penetration alone" means?

Thanks for your question. Unfortunately, I cannot point you to a scientific source for these statistics because I am not sure where they came from and I don't think they are completely accurate. That said, let’s first address your question about whether there are some women who just can’t seem to reach orgasm at all. Although the exact numbers vary quite a bit across studies, there are indeed some women who report never having climaxed in their entire lives. For example, this number was 10% in Alfred Kinsey’s pioneering research on human sexuality in the 1940s and 50s [1], and 3% in a recent national survey in Sweden [2]. Most other studies I have seen have yielded numbers in between. Thus, the statistic you heard about half of women being anorgasmic (i.e., lacking the ability to orgasm) simply has no basis in reality.

As for your other question about whether a majority of heterosexual women cannot reach orgasm through “penetration alone,” there is probably a bit more truth to that one. Let me first clarify that when we’re talking about “penetration alone,” we are referring to a woman’s ability to climax solely on the basis of penile movements inside the vagina during intercourse without providing any type of direct clitoral stimulation with a hand, vibrator, etc.

Now, as for that 75% statistic, I have seen it on a lot of news and advice websites (see here for an example from ABC News). However, all of these websites cite it as a statement of fact and do not back it up with a scientific source. So, let’s see what the research says. For instance, if we consider the Hite Report from the 1970s (a North American study that sampled approximately 2,000 women) results indicated that among those women who reported having had at least one orgasm before and who indicated being sexually active, 30% reported regularly reaching orgasm during intercourse, 12% rarely reached orgasm, 19% only reached orgasm if their clitoris was simultaneously stimulated, and 29% reported never orgasming during intercourse under any circumstances [3]. In the aforementioned Swedish study, the questions were asked somewhat differently, but researchers found that 55% of the women reported having reached orgasm during intercourse solely from penile movements at least once before [2].

Thus, when you average across these two studies and the others that I have seen, it looks like around half of heterosexual women are at least sometimes orgasmic as a result of penetration alone, whereas the other half either require added clitoral stimulation or other sexual activities in order to climax. So, based on the evidence I’ve seen, the 75% figure that’s frequently thrown around is probably a bit too high.
Notice...none of this mentions penis size being part of the problem as you've eluded to.

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I agree with Jack here. Hitting the Gspot really isn't rocket science and if it comes down to it, the bend is more important than size because it allows for more flexible angles.

The 80% of women not being able to experience orgasm from intercourse alone has never rang true in my experience. Those statistics are not even close. It's far more likely they haven't met someone that knew how it's done.
I mean yes, she's probably not going to cum from 5 minutes of missionary.

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Here is a quote from an actual expert in the field and not a staff writer from a magazine when someone asked the question about the statistics that you are hanging your hat on.
Nope.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/al ... -statistic
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This bears repeating: Only one-quarter of women reliably experience orgasm during intercourse-no matter how long it lasts, no matter what size the man's penis, and no matter how the woman feels about the man or the relationship.

This statistic comes not from just one study, but from a comprehensive analysis of 33 studies over the past 80 years by Elisabeth Lloyd in her fascinating book The Case of the Female Orgasm (Harvard University Press).
It is a fascinating read. 33 studies over 80 years, all peer reviewed.

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I agree with Jack here. Hitting the Gspot really isn't rocket science and if it comes down to it, the bend is more important than size because it allows for more flexible angles.
Every girl I've fucked has been grateful for the bigger dick, many who say they've never come that way before. Size most definitely matters for intercourse stimulation only.

Another peer reviewed study from The Journal of Sex Medicine. This one proves women climax easier with big penis' and intercourse alone than with small penises, which holds up my theory:

http://www.livescience.com/23785-penis- ... gasms.html
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Supporting the hypothesis that size matters, Brody and his colleagues found the women who reported the highest number of vaginal orgasms in the past month were most likely to say that longer was better.

"This might be due at least in part to greater ability of a longer penis to stimulate the entire length of the vagina, and the cervix," Brody said.

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