Science and survival values....Those do involve emotions. Survival- reproduction, hunger, thirst- these too are part of the spectrum of emotion. Science, as in, neurotransmitters, brain activity, etc. These produce so called emotions.

Wrong. Those things aren't on the spectrum of emotion. Those are things that may cause an emotional response. By your logic, video games, elections, and sports would be a part of the spectrum of emotion.

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thats a silly question, no disrespect.

all actions, obviously, have a motive / a cause. no one is attracted to another person for no reason.

i think we're kinda like a computer out the box, we have a program to run. and everything we do is based on that.

i feel that program is survival and reproduction.


maybe someone could say better than how i say it

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If that's the case, your whole statement is silly because everything runs on some sort of logic.

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I think he is referring more to the 'logic' of procreation.

i don't see how anyone, how anyone who is a thinker, cant agree with me. maybe my idea is lost in translation

attraction, to me, is based on what the person could add to your life/ existence to help you survive / reproduce, subconsciously atleast. sex is subconscious / conscious drive /urge to continue our DNA but we use condoms or pull out alot.

we dont find a 75 year old women attractive because she adds little to our survival, maybe if she were rich

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You don't find a 75 year old woman attractive because she looks 75 damn years old.

And by your logic you'd find any 20year old attractive because.. they're young?

And what do you mean sex is subconscious/conscious. It's can't be both for obvious reasons. So which is it?

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When people normally talk about making decisions and bring up logic, the terms are usually logic vs. emotion. Most people will make statements about how men are logical and women are emotional. When you say that attraction is based on logic, most people who are thinkers are going to say this person is speaking of logic vs. emotion.

The way that you speak, you're in serabellum territory and make every single excuse to keep your theory relevant. A woman with her tubes tied or a man with a vasectomy isn't in it for reproduction. A one night stand isn't going to add to your life or help you survive. Once that's pointed out, you'll say that it's the subconscious choice of reproduction because the conscious choice isn't really making the decision. It all becomes mental masturbation once you start going down that route. You can keep thinking about that all you want, but from perspective of pickup, it's all irrelevant because at that point it's out of your control.

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i feel like i should do a lecture like Terrence mckenna.

when i say its subconscious i mean the drive is coming from something in our hind mind that wants us to reproduce. thats where our sexual urge come from.

i say conscious because even though we listen to the urge that makes us wanna have sex, we conscientiously use birth contraceptions ( check spelling


an object cant move with energy like we cant do anything without a drive. all things we do in life is either to help us Survive or produce.

sometimes you gotta give the devil his due. sometimes you gotta humble yourself and say a man is right when je
s right.

check your ego

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How is drinking a beer, playing video games or having a cool vacation help me survive or reproduce?

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You see...I predicted your argument before you said it. This is not a statement of fact because it can't be proven. You can't prove that every time that someone has protected sex is because their subconscious is driving them to reproduce.

However, think what you want to think. If it's getting you laid then you're not wasting time.

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when i said logic i meant understanding whats going on is logic, like you need sense to understand.

emotions and thoughts arent as separated as we think: i think they're calling it emotional intelligence

you made a good comment. even though sex drive comes from a subconscious force, our active conscious/ conscious over powered.

the human will is strong enough to act contrary to its subconscious programming. we all start out with a basic program and its up to the person to hack their minds/ make whatever *upgrade they want. we could call this enlightenment / or becoming more conscious / higher consciousness

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you wouldn't go to club and dace with the fat n ugly girl. why?

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Pickup forum mental masturbation. None of this is going to help a guy find a girl or get laid.

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For the same reason I don't eat spinach. It doesn't appeal to me.

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