You may have read about my recent SHIPWRECK of an attempt at a cold approach at a university library, its only a few threads down.

In short, I approached a girl I don't know with "You want to go get coffee with me?" and got a blunt, flat "No."

I've realized since that what I did was a bit autistic . I also let the fear get to me and was too nervous going in. I gave off a scared impression. I hadn't anticipated the fear factor. I know I can do much better in both the confidence area and the conversation area. It wasn't me.

Anyway, I want to try again.

So my question is how do I go about approaching a girl I don't know at a university library where girls are sitting at computers and studying?

What do I open with and how do I transition to getting the number or arranging a date?

Also any other advice you guys can give about this? I'm completely inexperienced with this, that first disasterous approach I referenced was my first approach ever.

Go back and read the very first response to your "shipwreck" approach. You got the best advice right there.

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I understand I need to start a conversation, and the first response there gives one advice for an opening, but most girls here aren't reading books, but looking at computer screens.

I'm looking to get a few suggestions on how I might open, what would you do in that kind of a situation. Because its a very unusual and not very socially acceptable to just approach a random girl I don't know out of the blue in a library.

I understand I should probably get a sort of silly funny conversation going about something random and then try to keep it going until it feels a bit more normal and then at some point ask for the number... right? Am I on the right path here?

It's not really socially acceptable to seduce women...so throw away it not being socially acceptable type of excuses away if you want to be good at this.

In a situation like a library, I would keep it simple. I'd walk over and introduce myself, give her the reason why I'm approaching her, get her name, say some kind of fluff statement to break any awkwardness, give her a compliment on something outside of her looks and use that to make conversation, get a number, ask if she would like to bounce to another spot for a few minutes. If she doesn't want to at that moment, I'd leave and say that I'd call her and we'd find a place to go out.

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So something as direct as that might work?

Something like: I go over and say, hey, I've seen you around the hallways a 1000 times, I always liked you, never met you, what's your name, what do you study bla bla and then ask her out?

How much conversation would I need in the bla bla section before I try to ask her out? Can I just do the introductory part about how I've seen her many times and wanted to meet her, and then maybe just 2-3 more sentences of small talk and then ask her out, or would that be too little?

Fritz, this will probably lead to you mentally masturbating over, but since you're new I'll break it down for you just for the sake of perspective.
Everything can work. That doesn't mean it will. Your "shipwreck" happened because you blatantly ignored JZ when he specifically stated that unless she's quite interested in you to begin with, you will not get the desired outcome. And you didn't. Because she wasn't. And you could've known that.
No. Because:

#1. "seen you around the hallways 1000 times" - implies you're soft stalking her and have premeditated this approach for a while. Which translates to you being way waaaay too invested in what is effectively a stranger.

#2 "I always liked you" - why? What's she done to earn your liking? She was born with a vagina and cute face? that it? that all it takes to win you over?
You don't like her. How could you? You don't even know her.
Grow some standards.

And this is exactly what I mean by mental masturbation. That's what most newbies fall victim to and it's the developing an obsession over insignificant details.
This is an art form. It is not an exact science. There are no rules, there are simply guidelines.
How much conversation you need in the "bla bla section" is a stupid question.
How do I form a connection with the person I'm approaching? <- that's a smarter question.
It's also why your previous attempt failed. If you want a woman to invest the time in going out with you, she needs to be interested.

Why would she have said yes? You virtually asked her to invest time in going out with you. Why? Put yourself in her shoes and try finding a good reason to accept and you'll realize that unless she had a massive crush on you already, there is none.

So the point is, if you want a woman to accept your offer, the interaction needs to be exciting/interesting/unique or otherwise engaging enough. Any of those or a variation of those.

That being said if you decide to approach - anywhere really - during the date, you need to realize that since most dudes are cavemen when talking to women, they're naturally gonna have their guard up. So be smart and defuse the situation with something along the lines of "Hi, I know this is kinda random but I just noticed you from over there and though you were kinda cute so I wanted to introduce myself. I'm Fritz". Smile and be friendly. More importantly, be non-threatening.
From there ask what she's doing, about her classes, whatever you want. Don't make it too long because the enthusiasm dies out. From there either bounce to a coffee spot and take it from there, or ask for her number and then leave her to her work.

The goal is not getting a number or a statistic. The goal is actually meeting a hopefully cool person. Forming a connection. Having an experience. The "bla bla". That's the goal.

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How to keep a girl.

Read a book standing in the lobby or outside of the entrance, just post up and make sure your reading a book with a bold cover on the front saying something like '' How to make women Orgasm Uncontrollably'' knock them off(approach) one by one as they leave and enter the library.

College libraries have high foot traffic.

College girls are easy as fuck, you can say pretty much anything and pull college girls, as long as your fun and playful, they all just wanna have fun.

I guess for you,since your so new (first approach ever), so you don't have to think much, use a opinion opener, not ones from internet, create some according to where your at(the place) SPAM, stuff that's fucking relevant, and interesting. this way you have words to say already to get the conversation going, and you can focus on your body language(not giving off a scared impression) and how you are saying, and presenting your words.

After approaching transition immediately into some conversation, or kino escalation games, like dancing(spin her around) or tell her you can beat her in thumb wars and make it a bet on something. The main thing here is having good energy, smiling, laughing, and most of all having fucking ''FUN'' enjoy the interaction and the connection you can make with someone.

Throughout this time express all of your good qualities, what makes you a good person, what makes you, you? Why would a women want you, or why should she wanna have sex with you. Without bragging about it or actually saying it, showing it through your personality, social skills, conversation, and body language.

Example Bragging: Girl: Im studying how to save animals right now its very meaninful to me etcetcetc. Guy:Bragging: Really, I saved like 20 animals one time at a friends community one time.

Example Showing Qualities: Girl: Im studying how to save animals right now its very meaninful to me etcetcetc.

Really this is what approaching and escalating is all about, showing your qualities as a man, your value, and personality, to a total stranger, in a time constrained(short time) interaction and setup.

If you give couple of realistic situations that happen, we might give you specific advice.

So if you tell us about a specific situations like this:

SITUATION #1: This is what happened. She was sitting next to me, and was typing something in the computer.

How to approach: It's not the approach, but it's more like starting a conversation. So an example of what
you could say in this situation is,

> "Hey, do you know how to turn this computer on?"
> "Do you know how to find windows excel on this? I'm totally lost"
> "Do you know how to split these pages in word, so I can start the count of pages from this page on?"

So use something situational. You don't want to be bang on seducing her with your level of skills. You first
need to learn to walk before you can run.

Open situationally, even if it's not completely true. Allow her to help you out.

If she does know how to help you out, then say, "Wow, you're really good at this. I actually feel embarrassed
that a girl is better with computers than me...What are you here for?"

And then you go into a conversation.

I actually prepared a "welcome package" to new guys who want to learn to approach women, where
I show you how to start and keep conversations with women in these kind of situations.
Available in my signature.

Here's a video I made that might help you to start a conversation easier.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFzxwOf_rUk[/youtube]

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