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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:00 am 
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It's amazing how girls love Justin Beiber without even dating him or 'creating a bond'... lol
His fan base consists mostly of teen girls. Who even takes him seriously nowadays.
I 'love' Richard Gere as an actor, plus he's still good looking at his age. Does that mean I'll sleep with him? No.


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I don't sleep with a man on the first 3 dates, or at all, depending on how I feel for him, because sex is an intimate act shared between 2 people. That's how I view it and I hold true to myself.

Many men on here will sleep with a chick like it's a handshake. This is from a strictly animalistic point of view.

But I disagree about the whole anything else to offer. Maybe some women, but not all women.
And this advice was coming from A MAN.
Lol @ this "it takes x dates to form a bond". It doesn't take a specific amount of time. It takes quality interaction.

You know what quality interaction is? It's free flowing interaction. You can go on a date with a guy, have a great time, go back to his place, sit on the couch - drink in hand - and bullshit about life and form a bond like you've never experience before.
Then have sex and build the foundation of an awesome relationship between two very well grounded and stable people.

Or you can brute force your way through cutting the natural progression of that interaction and purposely dividing it by x number of date over y timeframe simply because <insert totally nonsensical reason here>.

I hate to break it to you, but if you're easy, you're easy. Regardless if it's been 1 or 10 dates. Because being easy is a result of poor character, lack of personality and otherwise low qualitative traits. Enforcing x number of date unfortunately doesn't fix that.

Here's an eye opener. Just like you women can smell neediness in a guy, we can smell exactly whether you're an actual quality woman or whether you're just hiding behind a very paper thin facade of "I'm a challenge".
The only challenge in that case would be for me as a man to find a proper reason to take you out on another date.
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Does it never occur to you people that sex in an intimate act? If you're sleeping around with a woman on the 2nd date, what's so special about it?
This is the kind of belief held by a person with the emotional maturity of a 16 year old infused by Disney melodramas.
It is an intimate act, obviously. But sex is not something "properly" experienced under dim candle light alone. That "special" factor may come from intense passion, lust, desire, trust, love, feeling safe or purely being horny. It's NOT either one or the other.

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Am I the only the person that doesn't judge girls by the duration it takes to sleep with them?

Do what the fuck you want to do. In my opinion, if you don't judge people for doing that, that is how you get it. I strike whilst the iron is hot.

If there are 2 girls that were my dream girls:

Girl A: Sleep's with me on the 3rd date

Girl B: Sleep me with me, on the same night from a club


Girl B actually gets more respect for me for doing wtf she wants with her life.

Guys that think quality women only exist if they get cock teased to 10 dates, are delusional.

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If you aren't finding a person where the both of you can't keep your hands off each other, you're running into/dating the wrong men.

Attraction, as others have said, is not a choice.
Sometimes it's just there, at least physically. And if you have self-awareness and keep doing this, hopefully the emotional part can kick in through positive shared experiences and interesting chats.
It's called self-control. Attraction is not a choice, but self-control is.

It's not necessarily about the x number of dates before having sex. It is, and it isn't. BUT, if a woman is looking for a serious commitment, having the man wait assesses his intention: does this guy really like you or does he just want to have sex with you?

I'm not questioning the morality of this, but the effectiveness of this as far as long term relationships. A woman is going to know a man MUCH better – particularly his long-term intentions and how she gets along with him – after a month than after a night.


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This is the kind of belief held by a person with the emotional maturity of a 16 year old infused by Disney melodramas.
It is an intimate act, obviously. But sex is not something "properly" experienced under dim candle light alone. That "special" factor may come from intense passion, lust, desire, trust, love, feeling safe or purely being horny. It's NOT either one or the other.
And you are going to build all of the above after sleeping with a person on the 2nd date? It's like saying let's skip all this talking nonsense about getting to know you and jump right into bed, we'll connect much better in there.

But you're not really looking for a serious relationship. You're just looking for quick sex.


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Am I the only the person that doesn't judge girls by the duration it takes to sleep with them?

Do what the fuck you want to do. In my opinion, if you don't judge people for doing that, that is how you get it. I strike whilst the iron is hot.

If there are 2 girls that were my dream girls:

Girl A: Sleep's with me on the 3rd date

Girl B: Sleep me with me, on the same night from a club


Girl B actually gets more respect for me for doing wtf she wants with her life.
Yes, and Girl A will find a man that will in fact wait for her and respect her decision to delay sex until they get to know each other and their intentions.
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Guys that think quality women only exist if they get cock teased to 10 dates, are delusional.

Delusional? You obviously have no clue about Arab men. Go convince them to marry a woman who gives up sex too easily.


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This is the kind of belief held by a person with the emotional maturity of a 16 year old infused by Disney melodramas.
It is an intimate act, obviously. But sex is not something "properly" experienced under dim candle light alone. That "special" factor may come from intense passion, lust, desire, trust, love, feeling safe or purely being horny. It's NOT either one or the other.
You're from Romania? Picking up attractive women there shouldn't even be an issue for you, why are you even here again?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:29 am 
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You haven't developed enough bonds, enough intimacy, enough of a connection to really feel the same in sex.
What makes you think that you can't continue to bond after sex? There is no rule that says that there is a specific order to create connections.[/quote]

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And you are going to build all of the above after sleeping with a person on the 2nd date? It's like saying let's skip all this talking nonsense about getting to know you and jump right into bed, we'll connect much better in there.
But you're not really looking for a serious relationship. You're just looking for quick sex.
You purposely ignored the below paragraph, didn't you?
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Lol @ this "it takes x dates to form a bond". It doesn't take a specific amount of time. It takes quality interaction.

You know what quality interaction is? It's free flowing interaction. You can go on a date with a guy, have a great time, go back to his place, sit on the couch - drink in hand - and bullshit about life and form a bond like you've never experience before.
Then have sex and build the foundation of an awesome relationship between two very well grounded and stable people.

Or you can brute force your way through cutting the natural progression of that interaction and purposely dividing it by x number of date over y timeframe simply because <insert totally nonsensical reason here>.
Let me lay it out for you differently:

I don't care how many dates it takes for us to have sex as long as I'm enjoying your company and our pseudorelationship evolves naturally. I do however have a problem with you purposely disrupting that evolution for no particular reason other than "Oh I'm a challenge, even though I totally want to I can't sleep with him now, we didn't go on 5 dates yet."
Do you understand why that is stupid?

Given any two first dates with different men, you will never connect with them both at the exact same rate. With the first you may end up feeling like you've known them forever while with the second you may find yourself looking for excuses to bail on him within 15 minutes of meeting up.
But yet you'll still hold them both to the same standard of not allowing the interaction progress to intimacy because you have not yet met the target of 5 dates?

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You're from Romania? Picking up attractive women there shouldn't even be an issue for you, why are you even here again?
What does my location have to do with it? You think attractive women in Europe are different from attractive women in other civilized parts of the world?
Or are you trying to be mildly xenophobic?

Regarding why I'm here, that's a weird question. If you walk into a gym are you gonna start asking the instructors why they're even there?

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Am I the only the person that doesn't judge girls by the duration it takes to sleep with them?

Do what the fuck you want to do. In my opinion, if you don't judge people for doing that, that is how you get it. I strike whilst the iron is hot.

If there are 2 girls that were my dream girls:

Girl A: Sleep's with me on the 3rd date

Girl B: Sleep me with me, on the same night from a club


Girl B actually gets more respect for me for doing wtf she wants with her life.
Yes, and Girl A will find a man that will in fact wait for her and respect her decision to delay sex until they get to know each other and their intentions.
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Guys that think quality women only exist if they get cock teased to 10 dates, are delusional.

Delusional? You obviously have no clue about Arab men. Go convince them to marry a woman who gives up sex too easily.
Why are you talking about different cultures? lol - Clutching straws now, aren't you? I will let you try to change their religion and beliefs but in terms of this western culture debate, my point remains. Are you Arab? Didn't think so...Don't Arab women also get stoned to death if they are rape victims? Surely you can not see this is a completely different subject?

If me and you dated and you were my dream girl, you were exactly what I wanted from a relationship. The fact you put out on the 1st or the 3rd date doesn't AT ALL make an impact with me with the decision, surely you can applaud that? Surely you are just projecting your judgements by thinking it's slutty or something...

But, being hypothetical here. I don't date munters who don;t take turns paying for drinks

p.s. Have you been to Romania? What an ignorant comment

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Don't Arab women also get stoned to death if they are rape victims? Surely you can not see this is a completely different subject?

But, being hypothetical here. I don't date munters who don;t take turns paying for drinks
LOL, you don't know whether I do or don't. Maybe I should chime in with my own assumption and say I don't date English chaps because they've got bad teeth ;)
Secondly, that's a very primitive view. Sure, in Saudi Arabia. But not in Israel. It's not a different subject. They are just more conservative and religious than others. There are Arab men living in Western countries that hold conservative views. Doesn't mean they are bad guys, or good guys.
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Have you been to Romania? What an ignorant comment
I'm closer to the culture than you'd think. Uh, I speak the language.


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You're from Romania? Picking up attractive women there shouldn't even be an issue for you, why are you even here again?
What does my location have to do with it? You think attractive women in Europe are different from attractive women in other civilized parts of the world?
Or are you trying to be mildly xenophobic?

Regarding why I'm here, that's a weird question. If you walk into a gym are you gonna start asking the instructors why they're even there?
Because it does. European women are a hell of a lot more approachable than American women. It's okay to come up to a woman in broad daylight and give her a compliment, ask her number, etc. It's happened to me on several occasions. You do that in the States on the street, and she'll think you're a creep, call the cops on you, etc.


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Because it does. European women are a hell of a lot more approachable than American women. It's okay to come up to a woman in broad daylight and give her a compliment, ask her number, etc. It's happened to me on several occasions. You do that in the States on the street, and she'll think you're a creep, call the cops on you, etc.
I hate statements like this

As someone who is European (well not so much recently) and been to USA many times, there is NO difference. A bad approach will get you accused of being a creep no matter which Western country you are in. This is pure conjecture on your part. Do know, people actually pick up girls in America and off the street too? AND HAVE SEX WITH THEM?

It only SEEMS they are friendly that way because locals are curious about the foreign stranger that is approaching them.

p.s. you have a habit of ignoring main point of people's posts and only replying to the parts that suit you, it's highly annoying and you shouldn't run for president

p.p.s Oh so you haven't been to Romania, derp

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Because it does. European women are a hell of a lot more approachable than American women. It's okay to come up to a woman in broad daylight and give her a compliment, ask her number, etc. It's happened to me on several occasions. You do that in the States on the street, and she'll think you're a creep, call the cops on you, etc.
I hate statements like this

As someone who is European (well not so much recently) and been to USA many times, there is NO difference. A bad approach will get you accused of being a creep no matter which Western country you are in. This is pure conjecture on your part. Do know, people actually pick up girls in America and off the street too? AND HAVE SEX WITH THEM?

It only SEEMS they are friendly that way because locals are curious about the foreign stranger that is approaching them.

p.s. you have a habit of ignoring main point of people's posts and only replying to the parts that suit you, it's highly annoying and you shouldn't run for president

p.p.s Oh so you haven't been to Romania, derp
LOL, I speak Romanian. Derp.
Wouldn't run for president either way.

While I haven't picked up women, this statement comes from what a. I've seen and b. what American and European men have told me.


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