Lol. You flop around like a fish after you've made a statement. If you are taking them home right after meeting and not even taking their number than its no more difficult than any other place. It even proves the guy that you were initially agreeing with was absolutely wrong.

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the thing about ppl especially online is that ya dont believe in middle areas. i try every day to pull chics off line even i feel its mostly about looks, i try every day to pull off these streets even though i think its tough. my actions attempts aren't limited my belief, child.

im a complicated man

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Bullshit. Most of your statements are too an extreme. You'll say it's all about looks or hot girls need to be offered money. When someone says something isn't true, you'll start switching up and tweaking your story around.

You're not complicated...you just have a mentality that makes excuses for failure. You're thinking allows you not succeeding to place the blame on the girl instead of yourself. It's a convenient way of thinking that allows your belief system to remain the same even though you still go out on those streets and online everyday and try.

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A quick search on google will show that NYC had a population of 8.406 million (stats from 2013). If you can't find at least one girl who is going to go home with you on the offer from a first date you're game must need working on. Because from what I can tell, there will be plenty of women who are looking to hook up out of 8.406 million if the guy has the right game for her to do so.

Whether it's hard or not is subjective. Sure out of 8.406 million there will be a lot of competition in the sex and dating game. There will be guys in NYC that have more value than yourself and fuck different girls every week or so. This isn't necessarily a bad thing. Competition is always good. If you're game is weak, rather than being a defeatist and complaining about shit all the time and thinking that things aren't possible, you could actually set some goals and try to make some action steps to becoming one of those guys that the girls are attracted to and better improving your seduction skills so you can take them home.

i've had girls come street to my house multiple times before. never ever did i say otherwise. and i try every day still

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Lol. I cant beleive we have guys saying NYC, the biggest city in the U.S is more difficult than other places. One day we're gonna have a guy at the Playboy mansion complaining not even women.

Ive lived in NYC for a while years ago, never had a problem. In fact that was when online dating was newer and had many girls coming over or inviting me straight to theres. Can only say NYC is easier for me compared to other cities.

Guys in a big city will complain that theres more competition or the women are more cautious about strangers.
Guys in a small town will complain theres more competition for the limited amount of women. Also, keep in mind women in a small town are more likely to be LESS adventurous than a woman in NYC or another big city so harder to meet them alone or get to your place. ALSO keep in mind small town girls have to watch their reputation more than a girl in a city of millions. Also keep in mind small town girls settle down quicker.

Guys in a medium city will complain about taken women, fat women, competition.


Go live in the midwest where chicks get wifed from high school to college and mostly date through social circle.

My point is, there isnt some magic city where women are just coming to your place on the first date easily. So I doubt anyone here is living in a city where chicks are telling them "lets just meet at yours and watch a movie" consistently. YOU'RE supposed to get them to yours smoothly, or comfortable enough to meet at yours on the first date. Some guys can, and some cant. Dont excuse your results on living in NYC. In fact, if you're saying its difficult, you'd suck more in any other.

nothing wrong with complaining. i.wouldn't even call it complaining just relating the experience. as Long as out here in the streets and online sarging i show faith. women are picky as hell, and with the boom in social media, its gotten worst.

women know there's always higher value men out there and i believe thats who they go far.

but i still try every day to hoping to prove myself wrong

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A point I wanted to make on the subject....

Life isnt fair. Some guys it would be better for them to pay for the first date. What I mean by this is, if you're a guy who's just starting, or if where you currently are is the point where you have flakes, girls can have a fun time with you but they aren't sold after a first date, you find yourself having to "work" to get girls to come out and maybe now and then you get lucky and get laid....it would prob be in your best interest to NOT split. Its a weird thing Im trying to describe but hope someone gets it. Girls ime dont really care about paying their own way, but if she has other options and you're just an"ok" date....then if you split a bill, shes more likely to not want a second date just because theres another guy like you who she wont have to worry about money with. Its like if you're an "hot" guy to her, she wont care if you always meet her 10 mins late. If you're an "ok" guy, then there are other "ok" guys she can go out with who wont be late. So if you dont want to pay for a first date, fine, but just know that it may be the difference between a chick giving you a second chance or not.

Also, paying or not, can look differently depending on the situation to its impact and perception. For eg, if you're a well dressed guy, who obviously can support himself and afford meals, then splitting a bill gives the girl the perception that you're not that interested, or at the worst cheap. Which isnt that bad. However, if you dont make alot and it shows, then splitting a bill gives the perception you're near broke. An attractive guy can appear broke and not worry about it. A guy she's barely attracted to AND he's broke = no win. Of course, it also depends on the intentions. Finances mean less for fwb or ONS, if you're planning on going on multiple dates and splitting, that may be negative.

I hope this makes sense. Its just to say that some girls may be looking for reasons NOT to continue seeing you. And if your game sucks, splitting may be the last straw.

Galist should be a mod, his one liners are on the next level shit like Da but excluding the logic

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I think the logic is an important bit tho.

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Then...
Da fuckkkk.

Then...
Lmao! Why the fuck would they go for a lower value guy if there is a higher value guy that they could be with? You're never going to prove this wrong because women are always going to go for the highest value guy that they can go for. That's just common sense and also nature.

Game isn't about wishful thinking that you can stay a loser and girls will be all over you because you joined an internet forum and made a few posts complaining. Game is about taking the necessary action steps to improving your sexual value as a man so that girls who are also high value will want to meet and fuck you.

yall seem to mix things up. women do something similar when they see an observation as judgment. same here, me relating an observation is not complaining.

come down off your high horses, Women Dating Masters.

the same way im sure you dont try to full clothes women with the most value, women will out for the highest trade value for their vagina.

they date up, and they could more than allow an average looking guy with not much money pass.

everything here is facts

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