i think i saw a documentary though or an article proving the hypothesis

Damn this thread has gone way off topic.

But lemme chime in...

To address Melodical's point, which seems to be the crux of the thread now

Unfortunately this point is really something that is in the mind of the observer. There's no real verifiable data to prove or disprove the point that "its easier to pick up very attractive women than ugly ones".

In general, if your game's good, it's good, whether or not you went in indirect or direct.

I'll repeat what I've said on previous threads - the actual words that you say have little relevance, especially when it comes to the initial approach, and whether they're a 10 or a 5.

If you have a shitty approach to a 10 they will literally not even glance your way, whether or not you have "balls" to direct approach or not.

In fact, I can think of several posters who have said that they've approached literally hundreds of women directly without a single success.

I can think of several cringeworthy posters who have posted videos of direct openers to flame out again and again.

I really don't think that in terms of ATTRACTION women care if you're direct or indirect.

They won't go "Wow this guy is dressed like a slob and is 100 pounds overweight and can barely make eye contact BUT I'm attracted to him after his direct approach"

In nightgame the hotter the girl, the more she might get approached. Guys have liquid courage to give them a little bit of a boost. Women are dolled up their best, so add the liquid courage and men feel inspired to take a shot they wouldn't otherwise. And figure they can just stick out their hand and grab her and consider that a quality "approach"

However in Daygame I find this to be a different story. So pretty much I only approach girls who are 8 and up. If I approach a girl under an 8 in daygame(Say a 6 or 7), she may suspect my approach is insincere and not actually believe I want to connect with her and that I would compliment. As she is not used to that in her everyday life. However most girls an 8 and up really seem to be flattered by this and the fact that someone had to balls to go up and tell them in broad daylight. And they tend to be more receptive as a result.

So in actuality during daygame I find it EASIER to approach the hottest women. So in reality it only makes sense to approach the hottest ones.

So you're saying that 8's and up are flattered by a guy approaching them during day game and in turn that makes them more receptive? You'd think that 6 or a 7 would be even more flattered since she's not used to that in her everyday life. Wouldn't that make them receptive as well?

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Girls below the PUA 7 rating. They don't have feelings, self esteem or the ability to vote apparently.

I am adding the rating system to my black book:
- Negs
- Disqualification
- Ratings, especially the 'HB10' term

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Yes. In theory you would think the less attractive girl would be more flattered. But based on my limited practical findings I find this not to be the case. The more attractive girls usually have a higher self esteem. They take that extra time to look good and seem to appreciate it that someone noticed. They know I'm not faking it and not just talking to them to a means and end. But I'm genuinly expressing my appreciation of their feminine aura. Whether she walks away or not after the compliment alsoAs well possibly recognize that during the day, guys without alcohol wouldn't have the balls to tell her how she looks.

But I think it also has to do with the energy behind this. Usually when I say this to a girl that is an 8 and up. There is just a sexual energy to me that is pulled to her. My rule of thumb is if looked back at the girl twice I have to talk to her, her femine energy has moved me as a man. And that all comes out in my voice, my eyes and body language. That is something that I can't fake unless I feel a very strong level of attraction. It won't cute it if I think the girl is just "cute". I just have to feel it in my bones that I think she is gorgeous. And that just becomes a huge shot of sexual tension in the air we both feel.

your loss lol.

"You're fucking hot. It would be such a bad idea if we we got too close. Bad things would happen. You're a bad influence" works magic.

Most things PUA related that get hate, have their place. Negs included. But people just used them wrong to the point that they just seem fucking retarded now; "I'm gonna get a burger. I take it you're having salad, right? Oh you're not, interesting" type of shit, expecting it to make her want to fuck.

Most of it, if done right, does have its place.

Apart from NLP. NLP is fucking retarded. So is all of this PUA terminology "So I opened this HB7.5 hired gun and got LJBF'd so I had to find a new target where I opened with light kino...." *puke*

I do give girls a number rating, just to give a general idea that the girl was kind of hot/really ugly. If I say 8, guys know pretty much what I mean.

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I am all for disqualification, no need to get butt hurt

I see so many noobs that abuse it like negging. They will have a girl all over them, kissing and they will saying something like:

'You taste like salt'

'You're the 400th girl i've approached today'

You get the idea,

is disqualification essential? No, my seductions look like this:

Find a girl that likes you > escalate > Don't fuck it up and be normal > Lead > Good logistics > Handle resistance = poomtang

i guess noobs have got to experience the fucking up part though to truly learn, I am just trying to save them from fucking up a few potential amazing experiences with women is all.

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All that you are saying is that you are genuine with women that you find attractive. The rest of it is in your head to justify the reactions of women that are not receptive to you.

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Yeah possibly.

Ah, you see, that's wrong. That's why you haven't been laid in over 15 hours.

Right way:

Find a girl that likes you > talk to her friend > neg her really bad so it's obvious that you like her but she'll understand that you're too shy to just tell her so you're being mean > let her lead, she'll find it cute cause you're shy > take her outside > get LMR > push > push > push > push > push > leave > write thread about sticking point > get moody reply from Dragula for fucking up so bad > join PUAhate and talk about how PUA doesn't work > add her on Facebook > make thread > repeat again from sticking point thread.

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Lol yep.

Then:

> make 5 different other threads worded differently but of the same situation hoping to hear advice they want to hear > then get pissy and edit their initial post

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Then make a thread about how he finally got her to go on a date and didn't need any "PUA crap" > make new thread cause she flaked > take no advice on thread > wipe his tears with his wank sock while she fucks an attractive guy like J.Daniels cause he's all "Pffff yea you're hot, but what else do you have going for you?"

Lol I'm so joking. Well, kinda.

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If we don't get enough attention then we assume we are not good looking enough.
So we have to go out of our way and make the effort or get knocked off the gene pool.
Attractive girls always have a backup even when they're in a stable relationship.
Ive been hit on once,but wasn't my type 5/10 but i gave her a shot.

I don't know what the question of this topic is but I'm pretty sure NLP is the answer.

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