Gentlemen,

So.... I was out at a bar around 6 weeks back, this hot girl walked past me and i whispered in her ear "Ill have a Vodka Coke please" she gave me a big sexy smile and walked away.

5 minutes later, she returns and hands me a drink in front of all of my friends! it was pretty cool. So she walks off. I finish the drink and approach. After some good conversation she adds me on facebook and seems really keen so i kiss her, we continue to have fun and i make her laugh alot. I then end up spending the night at her place and give her a good seeing to. She loves sex.

Im pretty good looking, work a professional job, dress well and am confident & funny.

Shes fairly similar to me but probably works with higher earning bankers.

So we have been seeing each other on the weekends consistently since we met, we have been having a good time together and are always doing something interesting.

She is a bit younger than me, 23. And has got very drunk (like cant stand up or walk drunk) a few times. The weekend after we met we went out and a few of my buddies were there. She got very drunk and was secluded with a buddy of mine for around 15 mins. I found out afterwards that she tried kissing him.

I didnt really care to much because it was to serious at that point and i had only seen her twice. And plus i was fairly sure she was so paralytic from alcohol that she probably couldn't even remember doing it.

We text most days but im in no way needy over text, she tends to initiate contact (most of the time) and loves sending me sexy pics of herself over snap chat.

She has pretty good game and does not come across needy at all (which makes me like her).

So last weekend things ramped up a notch when she surprised me with tickets to go and see one of my favourite comedians.

I was caught off guard when she gave me the ticket and was quite overwhelmed, nobody has done something that nice to me for a long time.

So the morning after the comedy show (after some of the best sex ive ever had) we get chatting about how things are going between us, and she says "Yeah im not really after anything serious" so i then replied "yeah me too" thats good.

The thing is, i actually quite like her alot.

I have taken a step back since then (which was last weekend) and am initiating contact less over text, giving her less "niceness" over text.

She texts me yesterday asking what im up to, i reply saying "You missing me?" to which she responds "Very much, i felt spoilt when i got your snap chat picture this morning"

So i feel its going quite well between us but im unsure as to why she has dropped the "i dont want anything serious"

Any thoughts much appreciated!

If you're a high value male, which seems like you might sorta be... where is the question? That you like her a little? This is the perfect arrangement for a man. Have a girl like you enough to fuck you, yet not tie you down. Most high value men, that have even decent social skills, probably have many of these relationships.

Think about it; when you walk around anywhere, don't you look at other hot women? If you had the option wouldn't you fuck every hot girl you find? I would... shit. Even science says we men are supposed to spread our seed as much as we can.

I don't even make that much money, but I have had some of the youngest hottest pussy I've ever seen just putting up a little cash. I admit it's kinda fucked up, but I have had so many young college girls give me sexual favors with no need for anything but for me to give them a few bux... bam straight to oral/fucking just for dough. I can't even imagine what it will be like when I'm a millionaire...

If she's young and hot, like you describe, at least she gave you the decency to state this to your face. Most young, HOT girls wouldn't .... because they have SOOO MANNY FUCKING OPTIONS...I'm sure it makes their head spin. It makes mine....fuck!! HIGH VALUE MALES have TONS of options too.

Most of my dates now I just tell the girl after a lil light banter (so they can see I'm a high level worthy man) let's go back to my place and fuck. It usually works.

At least you handled it well, but by asking "are you missing me?" that is borderline needy and too much of that will ruin it. I often have to wait weeks... MONTHS... to fuck a girl. But I can do it because I'm not so focused on her. Just keep her at a distance, test her sometimes to see if she's DTF and find other girls...

I have found most young HOT HOT girls are like this. 23 is just too young to consider anything long term ON AVERAGE. They are too bombarded with dick to see clearly.

What she says is irrelevant. What she feels is.

Just continue doing things couples do (like the comedy thing), hang out, go on dates, all that. A relationship is first developed and agreed upon later, not the other way around.

You won't get her to change her mind by playing games. You'll either make her feel she doesn't want to share you with anyone, or you won't.

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Appreciate the advice there gents.

RC, good points. I guess ill just be me which is normally enough! and see where it goes.

The strange thing is, her saying she doesn't want anything serious makes me want her more. Its almost like its a challenge to get her to like like me.

Friday night tonight!

So………… update on the status of the potential LTR

So since my last post things have been going well with her, we have been seeing each other once or twice over the weekends, the sex has been great & have shared good conversation.

We share a lot of similar interests hence the reason for me liking her a bit more than usual. She gyms as much as me, has a booty that makes J-Lo look like crap and can make me laugh.

She is very touchy feely (not sure if this signals anything) she loves to hold my hand in public and touch me in general. She relays confidence in herself at all times.

Last weekend she surprised me with front row tickets to the UFC (which is my passion) which ramped things up a notch with how I feel about her. I was literally metres away from Joe Rogan and all because of her!

So the first part that I’m looking for advice on the power player in this developing relationship. She is very smart, driven and good at making decisions. As am I. She makes quite a few decisions about what we are going to do, where and how we do it (which is cool cos she’s quite good at it). She loves me complimenting her too. In the bedroom she is fairly dominant, she likes to be on top. I have confessed to her that I enjoy her dominant side in the bedroom. I have done a lot of PUA reading and have watched a lot of the RSD videos. The thing I’m concerned about is me giving her too much power and her losing interest in me. Do you think I should pull back a bit off the compliments and confess less to how I get turned on by her dominant side?

So here is the second part I would be interested to hear your thoughts on…… last night we met up and went over to a nearby late night food market, she seemed tired after a long day at work and didn’t seem her usual joking self (we normally neg each other a bit, turn each other on and then have sex). So after the market we went back to hers and sat on her rooftop looking at the stars (I know, I know). Conversation was OK, definitely not up to the standard we hold on the w ends. So after an hr or two she looks at her watch and says “she’s tired” so I said “ok ill head home then”. She then seems startled at the thought of me now leaving and walks me to the door with a strange expression on her face. She asks me what’s wrong and that I’m leaving quickly. I was a little annoyed at her saying she was tired but I didn’t admit to being cross I just said “you said you were tired”. So I think I missed something here and she could have wanted me to come to her room to have her way with me. Then I get home and we exchange the following text convo:

18/11/2015,22:10 - Girl: Babe..
18/11/2015, 22:16 - Me: Babe
18/11/2015, 22:17 - Girl: Did I say something I shouldn't have?
18/11/2015, 22:20 - Me: What makes you think that?
18/11/2015, 22:21 - Girl: That's two days in a row we've spent together without having sex
18/11/2015, 22:22 - Me: Tell me about it!
18/11/2015, 22:24 - Me: You said you were tired and going to bed
18/11/2015, 22:25 - Girl: I see
18/11/2015, 22:32 - Girl: I think we should stop seeing each other for a few weeks
18/11/2015, 22:36 - Me: Thats not very nice
18/11/2015, 22:37 - Me: I thought we were getting on really well
18/11/2015, 22:39 - Girl: Just for a few weeks
18/11/2015, 22:39 - Girl: I think I'm starting to fall for you
18/11/2015, 22:39 - Girl: I need a few weeks to shake my addiction
18/11/2015, 22:42 - Me: (girls name), i fell for you a long time ago
18/11/2015, 22:49 - Girl: (my name)
18/11/2015, 22:49 - Girl: You don't want to go down that path with me
18/11/2015, 22:49 - Girl: Trust me
18/11/2015, 22:54 - Me: Im not scared
18/11/2015, 23:02 - Girl: Maybe I am
18/11/2015, 23:06 - Me: Someone as beautiful, smart and witty as you has nothing to fear!
18/11/2015, 23:08 - Girl: Let's talk about it another day
18/11/2015, 23:08 - Girl: Goodnight (my name)
18/11/2015, 23:09 - Me: Goodnight (her name)
18/11/2015, 23:09 - Me: Sweet dreams
18/11/2015, 23:10 - Me: Good luck tomorrow with your application. Im sure you will get it
18/11/2015, 23:10 - Girl: Thank you

She is generally very vague with how she expresses her emotions, She seems guarded.

So just looking for any tips here on how to progress forward, any thoughts on her personality type and how to interpret her thoroughly enjoyable mixed signals

PS. I haven’t said I love her or anything like that, even while having the best sex of my life

Cringe

Anyway, just reaffirm you want to be with her. It's all good. Hope you enjoyed the forum.

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Lmao. She handed you power and you gave it right back to her.

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haha its like an out-take from the Notebook

Willing to take good advice on the chin though

What are her reasons for not wanting anything serious?

Neo- She didnt give to much away with her reasons for not wanting something serious and i didnt ask her. I just brushed it off and said "Thats good" or something like that.

I think she was just saying it to make me want her more.

That text thread is the most i've got from her to date, emotion wise.

Meh. This is typical fear of getting hurt bullshit.

Nothing to worry about. She'll be blowing your phone up in no time, as long as you don't go full chode and start texting her every 5 mins.

Don't worry about the whole dominance shit. If something ain't broke pls don't try fixing it. What you should be most importantly is assertive. As in, have you own opinions. None of that "oh, you know, where ever you want" crap if she asks where you should eat.

PS: stop watching RSD. It's mostly shit.
PS2: What jack said.
PS3: let her come to you.

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Hmmm....Personally, it's these types of chicks I don't pursue for something long term. Just because ime when a chick is talking this shit from the beginning, she has issues with exclusivity and relationships that will pop up and lead to a shitty relationship. Don't get me wrong, you could probably get her into something serious. But it's like wanting to buy a car from someone who is telling you shouldnt want to buy it. When you buy the car, you drive it for a while and then realize the engine is busted, the brakes keep failing and it's a junker. Like if she knows she has trust issues because of getting hurt or issues being faithful to one man, attraction is gonna get her into a relationship, but isn't going to make her a good gf. I'd say if you really want something serious with this girl, find out what her issues are with falling in love and not getting hurt. If she gets into something serious, these issues need to be addressed and she needs to know what she has to work on. Otherwise, you'll get into something serious with her, and these issues will just resurface. If she's afraid to trust men because of getting cheated on, and you get into a relationship with her...one day you're out with your friends, she's crying in her apartment, does another episode of this withdrawing to protect herself, you assume she's losing attraction so you freeze her out, she dumps you. If you want something serious from her and are entering LTR territory, game needs to start turning off. Make sure she's ready for a relationship, or at least serious about working on her own issues. All girls are afraid of getting hurt, but if its that serious that she is considering weeks apart...then its a serious issue. I guarantee that if you continue pursuing her without addressing or even knowing whats behind it, you'll could get her to be your girl, but you'll be back in a month or so asking why your gf disappeared on you or is pulling away.

Damn gentlemen!!!! Some sound advice there and I appreciate the hell out of it.

I have been batting other chicks off because of this oneitis so having someone with much more experience give me insights into the future with her really helps.

Neo, you have some very interesting points there which could end up saving me a lot of heart ache. These are the thoughts that I ive already been having about her. Im not a jealous person at all (or at least I don’t show it at all) But this girl tried kissing a good friend of mine when she was paraletic drunk the 1st week after meeting, I brushed it off at the time as I thought we had only met a few days prior. Then a few weeks after that we were out again with a few of my buddies and she was very drunk. I went to the gents and came back to her being very close to a different buddy of mine to which I hear her lean over to him and say “Is this arkward”, so she leaves to go to the bar and my buddy tells me she was getting really close. She seems to change quite a lot after she has had a few drinks, she becomes a lot darker. Those are the two big warning signs that I saw early on and in the last month or so nothing like that has happened for the last 6 weeks (could be because she hasn’t been out with us again since). So I mix these negative things with her doing some of the nicest things ever for me and spending large amounts of cash on me and I’m confused as hell. Furthermore she has joked that she normally keeps guys around for around 3 months and then gets bored of them. She has however told me she has only slept with 8 guys including me.

Im not sure if shes just guarded and says shit like that to appear strong

I think of game and relationships like this....lets say you own a store selling stuff. You can use persuasion techinques (game ie jealousy, push pull, freeze outs) to get a sale from a customer (a relationship). But if you sell something to someone who doesn't really want it, like if you use game to get a relationship from someone who doesn't want one or has issues with them, eventually they are gonna return it (break up). And that's fine, but now you have to take back something used and sell it at a discount. So by getting a relationship, if she's not ready for one, you'll take a hit. Now, up to you if thats what you want to do, I'm just telling you to make sure if things are getting serious, she's on the same page and emotionally capable of getting serious.

I'm going through something similar right now with one of my one-itis girls.

We've been seeing each other off and on for a couple months. I even lived with her for a month, then we had a huge fight.

We had another fight and I apologized last night, then fucked her.

Her behavior is bizarre. She always asks me "want do you want from me, bro", says she has trust issues with me, cooks me dinners, invites herself over to my place, gets jealous of other women, but says she doesn't want a relationship or to be "tied down".

The other weekend she spilled her guts (rare for an alpha bitch...which is what I'm attracted to). She said she really, really liked me, but was afraid of what comes next (we both hate the idea of the suburban dream), so she said she was going to run.

This girls likes to fuck with my head, and does fuck with the heads of other, weaker men. She feeds on it. But she's a 9.5 with a wicked brain and a hyper-analytical personality which I dig (I'm a writer).

So, the only thing that has really worked for me is to occasionally text cocky shit, and give her space. When I do that, she comes running.

For example, out of the blue I'll text, "you lose your shit around me".

her: do not.

me: If saying that makes you feel better.

her: that's none of your business.

me: Stubborn as always.

her: Yep. What are you doing?

anything needy from me is an attraction killer. Frame everything with confidence and cockiness except when you fuck up. *no explaining*, ever. No apologies unless you fuck up.

I figure the only way I can get this girl living with me again is to *show* her she needs it, rather than trying to convince her with words. I do that by being fun, and better than the chodes she comes across.

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