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 Post subject: A messed up LJBF..
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:21 pm 
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Hey guys - just loooking for some advice.

Im not one to use tinder but I used it recently and matched with a girl 2 weeks ago on Sat. Just said our hi'sand decided to meet up for dinner that night, before she went out with friends. We met up and she turned out to be a pleasant surpise. Seems we had a few things in common.

She confessed that she had been on tinder for a couple of years but hadnt found what she's looking for. But she said our date was going well. She then asked if I'd like to go to the club with her friends and I accepted.

We were pretty wasted there - bought each other drinks and drank maybe a bit too much. I told her I was glad I met her, we kissed and she decided to come home with me. I didnt want to make this a one night stand however. She went to the toilet at my place, we kissed after and she took an uber home.

Next day we exchanged numbers on tinder and sent a couple of SPAM messages, decided to meet the 5 days later for dinner before I went off on holiday. We had a good chat again, slightly deeper chat about religion, ambitions, etc. She had to rush off at the end of the date and I ended up just hugging her and kissing on the cheeks as opposed to a full kiss close.

When I was on holiday we texted a few times but felt a bit of distance (shes not much of a texter). I did ask her out again but she replied with message saying lets just be friends and that she doesnt think there is a possibility for anything else. She acknowledged that we got along but better as friends. I just said I was disappointed to hear that but respect that its her decision. She then unmatched me on tinder.

I didnt text her since. She messaged back a few days later saying howsit going. I messaged back after a while saying 'not fun being stuck in a boring meeting when hungover. Lot of changes at work as I just got an unexpected promotion so going to be busy this week but may be able to meet on sat if you are free. Would be good to have a chat'. She said she'll confirm later in the week and I havent responded since.

If she comes back saying she's free to meet I was thinking of just ignoring it and calling her on sat to ask if she fancied a walk in the park. Plan is to neg a little then kino-escalate as much as possible with a hint of sarcasm and then just telling her at the end that 'darling im sorry but we cant be friends. You are quite cool, a little uptight though but I can deal with that so would be happy to just hang out with you and get to know you more'.

On the other hand if she doesnt respond I wont chase. Will just call her one day in Jan after c. 2 months break.

What do you think about this approach? Kino escalating, what kind of things should I do without making it awkward?

While I do appreciate that best thing to do is just walk away from the whole thing but I would prefer to reverse the frame as I do like a challenge. Please advise.


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 Post subject: Re: A messed up LJBF..
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:31 pm 
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Hey guys - just loooking for some advice.

Im not one to use tinder but I used it recently and matched with a girl 2 weeks ago on Sat. Just said our hi'sand decided to meet up for dinner that night, before she went out with friends. We met up and she turned out to be a pleasant surpise. Seems we had a few things in common.

She confessed that she had been on tinder for a couple of years but hadnt found what she's looking for. But she said our date was going well. She then asked if I'd like to go to the club with her friends and I accepted.

We were pretty wasted there - bought each other drinks and drank maybe a bit too much. I told her I was glad I met her, we kissed and she decided to come home with me. I didnt want to make this a one night stand however. She went to the toilet at my place, we kissed after and she took an uber home.
SCREEEECHHHH ..... hold on!

You took out a girl from tinder, that's looking to get laid, out for drinks, got her shitty and horny, she voluntarily want to go to your place for sex, FULLY EXPECTING TO RIDE YOUR DICK, and you deny her??? WTF??

Was she gross?

Did she stink up the toilet and make you sick?

I'm sure her first thought was, 'why does this stuck up dick not like me?'

Stop doing that!

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 Post subject: Re: A messed up LJBF..
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:16 pm 
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Well not quite that way. She did say she's not a Netflix & Chill girl and she was the one who said she should go home..

The issue is how do I reverse it from here.. I know its hard but looking for suggestions..



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Hey guys - just loooking for some advice.

Im not one to use tinder but I used it recently and matched with a girl 2 weeks ago on Sat. Just said our hi'sand decided to meet up for dinner that night, before she went out with friends. We met up and she turned out to be a pleasant surpise. Seems we had a few things in common.

She confessed that she had been on tinder for a couple of years but hadnt found what she's looking for. But she said our date was going well. She then asked if I'd like to go to the club with her friends and I accepted.

We were pretty wasted there - bought each other drinks and drank maybe a bit too much. I told her I was glad I met her, we kissed and she decided to come home with me. I didnt want to make this a one night stand however. She went to the toilet at my place, we kissed after and she took an uber home.
SCREEEECHHHH ..... hold on!

You took out a girl from tinder, that's looking to get laid, out for drinks, got her shitty and horny, she voluntarily want to go to your place for sex, FULLY EXPECTING TO RIDE YOUR DICK, and you deny her??? WTF??

Was she gross?

Did she stink up the toilet and make you sick?

I'm sure her first thought was, 'why does this stuck up dick not like me?'

Stop doing that!

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 Post subject: Re: A messed up LJBF..
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:39 pm 
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She did say she's not a Netflix & Chill girl
Of course she wouldn't admit to anything like that. They have an image to protect.
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she was the one who said she should go home..
And you should have been the one to say that she should stay.

This is the problem with most guys. They're afraid to lead. It seems like you were waiting for permission to make a move and that's not attractive.

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Anytime you meet a girl from online who hasn't found what she's looking for in 2 years, don't take her seriously. This is why is is single.


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 Post subject: Re: A messed up LJBF..
PostPosted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:51 pm 
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Well not quite that way. She did say she's not a Netflix & Chill girl and she was the one who said she should go home..

The issue is how do I reverse it from here.. I know its hard but looking for suggestions..
Well of course she's going to defend herself against slutdom at ever opportunity!
Forget her for a while, open her in a month with a funny text,

Get her back to your place and seal the deal this time.

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 Post subject: Re: A messed up LJBF..
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:25 am 
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Well not quite that way. She did say she's not a Netflix & Chill girl and she was the one who said she should go home..
Oh you clueless bastard. What the hell did you expect? Ofcourse she has to keep appearances.

She agreed to coming home with you. Which is virtually her agreeing to fuck your brains out, as long as you LEAD the interaction in that direction.

Get her out on another date, get her to your place, and stop being such a fucking white knight. Women despise white kinghts. Men despise white knights. Every-fucking-one despises white knights.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:29 am 
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Hey guys - just loooking for some advice.

We were pretty wasted there - bought each other drinks and drank maybe a bit too much. I told her I was glad I met her, we kissed and she decided to come home with me. I didnt want to make this a one night stand however. She went to the toilet at my place, we kissed after and she took an uber home.

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What do you think about this approach?

I think it sucks.

When a girl agrees to go home with you, at least try to kiss her and see what happens. My God man.

I think this is one of those cases where no-fapping helps. A dude who hasn't jerked off in a week would never let this happen.

You lost her because you acted like you had no dick, which probably scared her. I wouldn't do anything for ten days. Then send her a text asking to "Netflix and Chill". This will let her know you mean business this time, without sounding needy.

Fuck the walk in the parks. You blew it that first night, and in order to immolate that mistake, you need to be a bit brash.

Text: "Hey, let's watch Netflix."

simple, clear, loud message atoning for the flub. It explains everything, without actually explaining.

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 Post subject: Re: A messed up LJBF..
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Basic theory

Don't listen to what they say, listen to their actions.

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 Post subject: Re: A messed up LJBF..
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 2:33 pm 
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"I'm not a Netflix & Chill kinda girl"

When a girl says that, it means they are. What she meant is "I'm going to fuck you, but I want reassurance that it'll be more than a one night stand" but instead she got "Lets just not fuck instead. I'm too nervous to fuck you. I know you want excitement, but I'm the wrong guy."

Now you should tell her you're not looking for friendship, then you should walk away and mean it. Stop hiding your intentions.

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You didn't escalate.

Its that simple. And thats why you are in this position. If you comes back you need to cut the cheese canned lines and just escalate and see if you can get the close. If not, keep it moving. Its a way better shot than trying create the perfect moment to dish out your canned closing line.

That or just move on.. like you should.

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