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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:19 am 
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So I know I have been needing a lot of work on my talking game. I still struggle to say hi in person. I am looking at women all the time, getting great results with seeing their reactions. Still struggle with saying hi in person in a non-workplace scenario. Sometimes it happens.

I have some limited success. I have noticed that the times I get farthest is the times when I don't even flirt, never complement, tell her anything good about herself etc. This last time I was talking with a girl, we were talking about her experiences with kids being a nanny, and how much she likes kids, and how she has baby fever. This was online, and I told her it takes an actual heart to want to raise kids these days. I asked if she might want to meet in person, and she seemed fairly interested. So that was like a complement, but it seemed to work.

So she wanted to see a picture of me and I sent one to her of me in my suit showing some of the tattoo on my chest. She asked about it, and I told her more about it, and she said "oh nice. you have nice lips too :)"

Then she sent a pic of herself very well fixed up with a dress that pushed up all this supercleavage and a necklace and hair all drawing attention down into it. And this is where things fell through. After a long conversation that resulted in this, I say "why thanks *******, you have many lovely features yourself...

And that's where I think it died because a few texts earlier she was interested and willing to meet me for a walk on the beach, but when I tried to set up the time right after this line, she stopped answering.




I am thinking I should not have recognized her hotness at all. Not even given her a complement. The thing is, I am confused, because that first complement about her having a heart with kids DID seem to work. This theme seems to repeat itself other times, even in person. One co-worker of mine I hinted at flirting with, and then she didnt seem to respect me. A few days later I started acted all disgusted with her and sarcastically wanting her to suffer at work, and she seems more open to me.


Can anyone tell me what's going on here?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:32 am 
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I have noticed that the times I get farthest is the times when I don't even flirt, never complement, tell her anything good about herself etc.
Then don't fucking fawn over her in person. Lesson learned. I don't do this shit either and it works wonders.

idk what is going on w/ the sitch u posted, but i do kno that u need to be going out there and meeting women in person. Get out from tha screen and meet them in tha flesh.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 3:19 pm 
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This is easy.

Your big heart compliment related to who she is.
Your compliment regarding her looks related to what she looks like.
The first is personal. You listened to her and drew a conclusion. It was earned and most likely sincere. Authentic. The second is impersonal. You saw a picture and told her what 95% of guys tell her every day. Did she earn it? no. How could she? she did nothing. It wasn't authentic and it was meant to please. Never be a "pleaser".

You gotta be engaging dude. They don't want their ass kissed, they wanna be provoked. Give with one hand and take with the other. She does something goofy or relatively stupid?
"Good thing you're half cute, because you're not very smart." Obviously don't say that unless it fits your personality, but you're playfully challenging her while at the same time giving her some (some) appreciation. Don't go all out with it either. She's half cute, not the exemplar of beauty.

You meet up and she's looking good?
"God damn someone's looking sexy as fuck today. Don't worry though, you look good too."

These aren't rules written in stone by the way, nor are they gimmicks or routines. Just some of the few things I do because it's congruent with my personality and I find them fun. That's not to say you can't give sincere and honest compliments about her appearance every now and then. You can. If you're about to go on a date and she's looking amazing, let her know. She puts a lot of effort into that.
The only mention and correlation here is that I never do it early on. There's plenty of beautiful women in the world and that alone doesn't mean much. She has to earn it. I have to feel she's earned it.

Genuine compliments are powerful, boot licking is pretty much as unsexy as it gets.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:01 pm 
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Giving compliments to women is not simple as it seems if you want to bang them.

I've tried Robert Greene's over-the-top "spiritual" poetic compliments from his book 'The Art of Seduction'. Didn't work. I wanted to kick myself in the balls for taking advice from a keyboard jockey. Such a waste of time and more than a dozen pussy!

I've tried Eddie Fews' compliment + what you want to do because of the great feeling: "Damn. You look so great and sexy in that office attire I wanted to sing some Bon Jovi songs." Didn't work for me after a dozen tries or so although most of Eddie's other advices worked for me really well.

I've also tried giving compliments NOT on the girls' looks but on their personalities and things they generally worked hard for. Those didn't worked as well for me.

Look. This isn't rocket science. Try each of the techniques on giving compliments. If none of them works for you... STOP giving women compliments.

This is one verbal and nonverbal routine that works for me:

Girl: Am I fat?
You: [Proceed to rub her belly, then her sides trying to 'assess' if she's fat.] Hmmm...
Girl: What? Am I fat?
You: I can't tell. Relax and breath and don't tuck your stomach in. [Rub her belly again just above her pussy and accidentally rub the sides of her breasts and covertly brush on her nipples.]
Girl: So... Am I fat?
You: Your ass looks flabby. I'm not sure if they're really firm and fat tissues are not hidden in there.
Girl: [When she does the nonverbals so you can feel her ass...]
You: [Rub your cock at her ass. When she turns red and gives you bedroom eyes...] Take off your pants (her name).

Let's not complicate this. Try several things at least a dozen times until you find something that works for you and stick with it. If my routine doesn't work for you after a dozen tries or so, shit can it and find something else!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:57 am 
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Hmm. I think I might be getting the bigger picture now. I do feel like a pleaser, and I have recognized that doing that is what makes me lose. Its congruent with my personality as was said, and I have to learn not to do it.


I like that part about the fat Mon. The other day my sister's hot friend was trying to pull some kind of "am I fat" game on me, and i never really knew how to respond to this (or 99% of the god damn games women play) I just ignored her and she went on her way. She might try it again... she likes to come over and get drunk with my sister often lately.

But yea, I think for me, the best course of action is just to not complement ever. Unless I am 90% sure its an earned comment. This is a problem for me though, all I ever learn it seems is what NOT to say, and I never know what TO say, so I end up saying nothing. it makes me wonder how I might progress in most situations.



And ya know what else is confusing, is when I tend to be mean, like maybe a 4/10 or less of potential meanness, girls seem to like it. Its so strange for me, its definitely not congruent with me, even though it works. I guess I have to try it more. I still have a problem initiating convo with women. I can't justify giving them the chance to reject me. Baby steps.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 27, 2015 1:10 am 
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I can't justify giving them the chance to reject me. Baby steps.
Then justify giving yourself the chance to see if you approve of THEM or not. Flip the script in your mind. Women are everywhere. See if this one who you are talking to is cool enough to hang w/ u.


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Nothing wrong with compliments every now and then... you don't ever want to shower her in compliments.

I like giving compliments when she's obviously not good at something.

For example, if we are playing pool, and she sucks, I will say something like "I love the way you stroke the ball you look like a natural" or to give it some sexual innuendo to build tension "you really turn me on with how good you are at pool"

This won't work if she is actually good. It is tongue in cheek, you are complimenting her on something she is obviously terrible at, but using it as a way to build sexual tension between the both of you.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:02 pm 
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I'm thinking you should stop being such a square.
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"why thanks *******, you have many lovely features yourself...
What the fuck? Are you 60?

It's weird as fuck hitting on girls online. Grow some fucking balls. Say it to her face. It doesn't mean dick when you type if through the computer. Especially when you give compliments like you're a god damn youth pastor.

If you want girls to want to have sex with you, you need to make them feel sexy and be sexy. Talking about her "many lovely features" is not going to make her feel sexy.

Stop being such a nerd.


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The Power In A Proper Compliment

There has been a myth going around the seduction community for sometime that you should never compliment a woman on her looks. That instead you should point out something unique that a guy doesn’t usually compliment her on to get her attention. While I agree that an indirect compliment will definitely lift a woman’s spirits, I can’t help but laugh at the guys who are afraid to acknowledge a woman’s beauty. And I won’t even bother addressing the men who think they have to NEG – say something negative to knock an attractive woman off her high horse just to get her attention. I would only advise the men on that level of social immaturity to get a horse of their own before they even think about connecting with the opposite sex. But back to the subject at hand..

I believe that a proper compliment based solely off of a woman’s looks is the best way to connect with her. Women carry purses that are usually filled with items to touch up their appearance( make up, mirrors, etc.) which only suggest that they worry about what they look like a lot more than men do. What better way to ease the mind of a woman than to let her know that she doesn’t have to worry about how she is begin perceived at that moment. Having put her mind at ease, she can now contemplate other matters.. perhaps even YOU?

Now there is a catch..

The compliment certainly has to be unique and more than unique it has to be genuine. A compliment such as “ You’re beautiful/sexy/hot/cute/pretty” is unreacted to for several reasons.

Reason #1

It’s obvious-She hears this ALL the time.

Reason #2

When you say “ You’re beautiful” you are stating this as if it is a fact. While YOU may perceive her as beautiful she may be the complete opposite to someone else. Now although she may hear the word beautiful all the time; changing “ You’re beautiful “ to “ I THINK you are beautiful “ will get you a completely different reaction – I guarantee it.

Reason #3

There is no YOU in this compliment. What more is she supposed to say other than “ Thank You ” while walking away. Exactly how do the men that walk around calling women hot/sexy expect them to respond? Lean into you and start making out with you? Grab your hand, take out a pen, and write their phone number on it? In what reality does this happen and why is it that the urban man sits around waiting for miracles instead of making them happen. This is your life; waiting will only get you what waiting has already gotten you.. Which is what?

Women wear tight dresses, high heels, and even walk the way they do because they WANT to be viewed as attractive. They want some guy to be confident enough in both himself and her to compliment her beauty without fear. So compliment her beauty relentlessly, do so with passion, high energy and she’ll love for you it.

The trick to successfully complimenting a woman’s looks is to state how the way she looks is making YOU feel. She doesn’t want to know she is attractive as much as she wants to know how much her attractiveness is affecting YOU. This is about YOU, this isn’t about her looking a certain way; it’s about her beauty filling you with fire from the inside out. No woman can resist a man confident enough to express how tempted he is to give into weakness because of her beauty.

I’ll give you an example..

Back when I experimented with the online dating thing, I realized that all men would do is compliment a woman on her looks and the women hated it. Why? Because they weren’t doing it the proper way. They would all say “ Hey Beautiful, Hey sexy, you’re hot etc. “. Now as you stated before, they could of received more responses if they said “ I think you’re sexy, I think you’re hot etc “, but I decided to take a different approach. I was going to describe in one or two lines how the way a woman looked was making me feel. I never had to read profiles.. I would just monitor my emotions while looking at their pictures and just describe this to them.

One of my favorite lines was “ Damn girl.. you make me wanna knit us both matching sweaters! “

I could send that to ten girls and get seven responses, because I was stating how the way she looked was making me FEEL.

A proper compliment tailored to a woman’s looks also does something powerful for your benefit. Not only will paying a woman a proper compliment heighten the way she perceives herself, but it will also heighten the way she perceives you. We’ve all heard the expression “ It takes one to know one “ and people are only mirrors of ourselves after all. When you comment to a person on anything they subconsciously think it must have something to do with you; by validating her attractiveness you also validate your own.

I used to date this girl named Natalia, and boy was she BEAUTIFUL… But she wasn’t always that way. Natalia was my next door neighbor when I lived in the suburbs. And before we were together I would see her from time to time, but I never really thought anything of her. Then one day I had a friend over who came into my house excited saying he had no idea I had such a sexy neighbor. He was also wondering why I had never made a move on her. I told him I didn’t think she was all that cute, and he told me I was crazy. So immaturely I said to myself “ Fine, I’m just going to sleep with her to score some cool points with my boy; not to mention, the idea of sleeping with a next door neighbor is a bit exciting.”

The next day I looked her up on facebook ( we went to high school together, she was three years older) and sent her a message:

Me: Hey, there’s this cute girl that lives in my neighbor hood.. You know her?

Her: (I don’t remember what she said but it was something like..) Haha yeah that’s me :)

Me: Dope.. So can I borrow some sugar?

Her: Sure :)

I think she thought I was joking, but I went right on over, knocked on her door and asked for sugar. She laughed, we talked for a bit and then we exchanged phone numbers. The whole time I am thinking “ This girl is not all that attractive -I’m not even sure I want to go through with this “. But I was on a mission and I was going to complete it. I called her a couple days later, chatted with her for 20 minutes and then invited her over for a back yard picnic. So there we were, hanging out in my backyard, me still thinking she’s not that cute, and then it all started… She went into a mind state where she began describing to me how attractive I was for about fifteen minutes. She had been in a metaphorical cocoon and once the compliments began to rain, she broke out and emerged as a butterfly. My eyes glazed over and I was hers. I ate it up guys and for the first time since I had seen her I began to view her as all of the things she was telling me I was.

“ Beauty is in the eye of the beholder” – General Lew Wallace

“ A pimple turns to a dimple when you’re in love” – Japanese Proverb

Long story short

I fell more in love with Natalia that I’ve ever fallen for any woman in my entire life, all because she made a habit of constantly telling me how amazing I was. And as I stated above; subconsciously I would associate all of these great things with her even though my original opinions of her were negative. Her opinions of me, became my opinions of her and she knew this. I had fallen for her, I became emotional over her, and she began looking for a new male the conquer with her silver forked tongue.

There is a lot of power in the compliment and we must also realize that the more compliments we give out to others the more compliments we get in return. Compliments boost both someone else’s confidence and our own so it’s a win-win situation. Just make sure they’re genuine, original and tailed directly to the person. “I like your dress” doesn’t cut it; it’s cliche and heard by someone somewhere every single day. Try “ That dress goes great with the tone of your skin, how did you know to pick that color? “ That’ll open up the person and get the conversation flowing, but just remember that it has to be honest and genuine. If you love women enough, this will all be easy for you. Just begin expressing to them how much you really do LOVE specific things about them and how these things are making you FEEL.

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