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PostPosted: Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:18 am 
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Hey I'm a new PUA member. I've been rogue-ing it since my mid 20's and the results aren't great and speak for themselves. I NEED GAME! I currently have a girl I'm seeing who is a stepping stone type girl, but this post isn't about her. I got a really cute girl I'm very attracted to in my phone but I'm having trouble seducing her. She put me in the "I'm busy with work" zone and I think I'm on the tail end of it.

I have two questions:

1. How can I salvage this relationship? Is it too late to create attraction still? My mistakes were A. seeming too interested too soon. And B. Putting her too highly on a pedestal. I didn't give her a challenge because I was too excited that I got her number and she came and hung out twice and we kissed but I don't think I've gotten her that hot over me and she is texting less and less even though she's supposed to have more time off now in June.

2. Is strictly texting ok to get a girl? Or should I call her on the phone? It seems like a text and a hang out is what is cool, but do girls like it when guys call on the phone?


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Question One :

Relating to the girl that you've kissed you need to text less and wait for her to initiate things. You need to turn the tables QUICK...mimic her behavior in a way. Raise your value by doing this and she will respect you more if you are interesting and actually have a life...so in other words don't always be available (don't always reply quick either)

Question Two :

Either way works. You want to text, but women do appreciate when guys call. If you call to talk don't make it over 20 minutes, you don't want to get dragged down with meaningless conversations. You can call to make that more intimate and more real connection. You can get away with texting if it suits you better, but calling does make you more unique. Texting is easier though with people who have an eventful and interesting life, it's also easier for them to get back to you through texts.

Best phone game is no phone game. You definitely wanna hang out and a lot more than just twice. Like I said either way works, but I'm just telling you that it is unique so that's a plus :)

Don't needless text, don't needless call. If you call and she's not there don't stress and flip out like some crazy stalker lol Good luck!


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Read: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=190620

Your attitude isn't helping your game at all. You are what you attract man. A shit in thinking will create a shift in your circumstances.

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Your attitude isn't helping your game at all. You are what you attract man. A shit in thinking will create a shift in your circumstances.
My attitude? What do you mean? I'm just asking for help bud


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Question One :

Relating to the girl that you've kissed you need to text less and wait for her to initiate things. You need to turn the tables QUICK...mimic her behavior in a way. Raise your value by doing this and she will respect you more if you are interesting and actually have a life...so in other words don't always be available (don't always reply quick either)

Question Two :

Either way works. You want to text, but women do appreciate when guys call. If you call to talk don't make it over 20 minutes, you don't want to get dragged down with meaningless conversations. You can call to make that more intimate and more real connection. You can get away with texting if it suits you better, but calling does make you more unique. Texting is easier though with people who have an eventful and interesting life, it's also easier for them to get back to you through texts.

Best phone game is no phone game. You definitely wanna hang out and a lot more than just twice. Like I said either way works, but I'm just telling you that it is unique so that's a plus :)

Don't needless text, don't needless call. If you call and she's not there don't stress and flip out like some crazy stalker lol Good luck!
Right on man, thanks. Yeah I agree with pretty much all of that. I am now turning it around on her. She didn't reply to one of my texts for a day, so I'm gonna ignore her little "Hey" text for a day and text her back 'whatsup' tomorrow.

Yeah this mid game stuff is harder than it sounds. She's not the type try to pull a neg on either I don't think. She's a sensitive girl, but she's bossy too. So I'm gonna stall her out, and play aloof to create attraction.

Thanks for the incite though, that helps. I'm trying to get her to hang but she's friend zoning me. Her shop just opened a new addition so she's supposedly 'really busy with work' and she has a kid so apparently it's hard. But she still goes out and drinks with her coworkers. Anyway, I'm pretty sure I'm in the zone right now. But we'll see now that it's June she said she has more time to hang out. We have talked about sex and we did make out with tongue on the second date. I just can't tell at this point if she's using me for attention or if she's really just playing it slow because she likes me. I admit I played it too close too soon and told her that I was really into her when she probably just wants some good sex. It probably made her pull away.

But anyway, yeah I'm gonna play a stall game and stand my ground. Hopefully that will create attraction and work. She's a little odd anyways, not like most girls. She smokes weed too. But we'll see if she hangs more in June. If not I'll just put her on the super stall and answer her texts like two days after she sends them lol.


Right on with the phone call answer too. I think it is classy to call on the phone maybe once or twice. But it seems like girls mostly dictate that for me. I've had times when I called a girl on the phone instead of text and she was a bit awkward. Other times a girl would call me to just initially talk. But even if I'm texting my slant is mostly towards taking her out or hanging out with her. I'll ask her out or ask her to come hang out pretty quick in the convo. Like say the first or second day even. So yeah I agree, hanging out is the quick as well as the ultimate goal.


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Your texting is probably boring. Read my guide on it. Link's in the sig. Will provide lots of perspective and knowledge, plus make it fun for both of you.

Eddie's right too. Your attitude is a problem. You've been told you were putting her on a pedestal and are still doing it.

You don't have to wait a day, two, or ten to reply. You have to wait just until you finish doing what you're doing. Don't be like most guys. If you're phone rings don't just throw away the knife, stab your roommate in the process and fuck up your kitchen just to get to the phone. Finish making that sandwich, eat it, and then get back to her. It's all about the mental process. Dropping whatever it is you're doing because maybe "she" texted you is not a healthy attitude to have. Towards life in general. Whenever grabbing your phone means stopping or interrupting an activity of any kind that you were already engaged in, don't.

At the same time if you're waiting in line at the grocery store and were browsing your phone in the first place and a text pops up yes, you can reply instantly. Be true to yourself. Don't pretend to have an interesting or busy life, actually have one and like explained above, do right by it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:48 am 
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Your texting is probably boring. Read my guide on it. Link's in the sig. Will provide lots of perspective and knowledge, plus make it fun for both of you.

Eddie's right too. Your attitude is a problem. You've been told you were putting her on a pedestal and are still doing it.

You don't have to wait a day, two, or ten to reply. You have to wait just until you finish doing what you're doing. Don't be like most guys. If you're phone rings don't just throw away the knife, stab your roommate in the process and fuck up your kitchen just to get to the phone. Finish making that sandwich, eat it, and then get back to her. It's all about the mental process. Dropping whatever it is you're doing because maybe "she" texted you is not a healthy attitude to have. Towards life in general. Whenever grabbing your phone means stopping or interrupting an activity of any kind that you were already engaged in, don't.

At the same time if you're waiting in line at the grocery store and were browsing your phone in the first place and a text pops up yes, you can reply instantly. Be true to yourself. Don't pretend to have an interesting or busy life, actually have one and like explained above, do right by it.
I'm not really doing any of that. I responded when she texted. And yes a lot of times it was right away. It GOT to the point where the conversation got boring that's true. Idk how to rebreak the ice because it was ok for a second up until I put her on a pedestal. So yeah there's a lot to salvage. The convo is pretty dead at this point. She's totally stalling me out and is making me earn it. Not really sure what I can do at this point.

But no I don't kill to get to the phone when she texts. For a while I was texting her right back. But now I'm taking my time and actually she's stalling so much that she didn't even text last night and I didn't text her either. It's probably a lost cause. She has a kid and I don't think she likes my living and financial situation.

Whatever, anyway a few of you guys have been negative. Could have used a little nicer responses. I know I fucked up in a lot of ways, but nothing I can do about it now. Like I said I'm new to this shit. This is probably a rookie mistake. I just really liked her and forgot for a second it's all a game with most women. Which really makes me not even like dating or the whole pua shit because it exposes the fact that women are just full of shit anyways.


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Your texting is probably boring. Read my guide on it. Link's in the sig. Will provide lots of perspective and knowledge, plus make it fun for both of you.

Eddie's right too. Your attitude is a problem. You've been told you were putting her on a pedestal and are still doing it.

You don't have to wait a day, two, or ten to reply. You have to wait just until you finish doing what you're doing. Don't be like most guys. If you're phone rings don't just throw away the knife, stab your roommate in the process and fuck up your kitchen just to get to the phone. Finish making that sandwich, eat it, and then get back to her. It's all about the mental process. Dropping whatever it is you're doing because maybe "she" texted you is not a healthy attitude to have. Towards life in general. Whenever grabbing your phone means stopping or interrupting an activity of any kind that you were already engaged in, don't.

At the same time if you're waiting in line at the grocery store and were browsing your phone in the first place and a text pops up yes, you can reply instantly. Be true to yourself. Don't pretend to have an interesting or busy life, actually have one and like explained above, do right by it.


Your texting guide link didn't work btw


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Probably has to do with the forum changes going on. You can find sticky'ed in the Closing and Day 2's subsection.

Anyway, you're clearly a bit too emotionally invested in this. Women are not full of shit. Men are logical and sometimes pragmatical creatures.
We make our decisions based 80% on logic, 15% on emotion and 5% on external circumstances.

Women make decisions based 80% on emotion, 15% on logic and 5% on externals. What they feel is a deciding factor in regards to what they will do / how they will act. Emotion is volatile by nature, it's not dishonest.

Be careful, you're on the verge of falling into a very, very unhealthy mindset.

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Probably has to do with the forum changes going on. You can find sticky'ed in the Closing and Day 2's subsection.

Anyway, you're clearly a bit too emotionally invested in this. Women are not full of shit. Men are logical and sometimes pragmatical creatures.
We make our decisions based 80% on logic, 15% on emotion and 5% on external circumstances.

Women make decisions based 80% on emotion, 15% on logic and 5% on externals. What they feel is a deciding factor in regards to what they will do / how they will act. Emotion is volatile by nature, it's not dishonest.

Be careful, you're on the verge of falling into a very, very unhealthy mindset.
So women are emotional ok. How do I tweak their emotions to want me?


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Probably has to do with the forum changes going on. You can find sticky'ed in the Closing and Day 2's subsection.

Anyway, you're clearly a bit too emotionally invested in this. Women are not full of shit. Men are logical and sometimes pragmatical creatures.
We make our decisions based 80% on logic, 15% on emotion and 5% on external circumstances.

Women make decisions based 80% on emotion, 15% on logic and 5% on externals. What they feel is a deciding factor in regards to what they will do / how they will act. Emotion is volatile by nature, it's not dishonest.

Be careful, you're on the verge of falling into a very, very unhealthy mindset.
So women are emotional ok. How do I tweak their emotions to want me?

You start with learning how to tweak your own. Opposites attract. So if you're getting emotional and she's getting emotionally you guys with naturally repel one another. So tweaking your feelings means you develop self control, learn how to walk away. It starts here. Walk away from this girl and you will be taking the first step in learning how to tweak a womans emotions.

You can control someone unless you are first in control of yourself. And being that your desperation has taken over you to influence you to write this post, you have a bit of a way to go.

A womans emotions are only controlled by a man that is in control of his. A man in control of his doesn't go getting attached.

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Probably has to do with the forum changes going on. You can find sticky'ed in the Closing and Day 2's subsection.

Anyway, you're clearly a bit too emotionally invested in this. Women are not full of shit. Men are logical and sometimes pragmatical creatures.
We make our decisions based 80% on logic, 15% on emotion and 5% on external circumstances.

Women make decisions based 80% on emotion, 15% on logic and 5% on externals. What they feel is a deciding factor in regards to what they will do / how they will act. Emotion is volatile by nature, it's not dishonest.

Be careful, you're on the verge of falling into a very, very unhealthy mindset.
So women are emotional ok. How do I tweak their emotions to want me?

You start with learning how to tweak your own. Opposites attract. So if you're getting emotional and she's getting emotionally you guys with naturally repel one another. So tweaking your feelings means you develop self control, learn how to walk away. It starts here. Walk away from this girl and you will be taking the first step in learning how to tweak a womans emotions.

You can control someone unless you are first in control of yourself. And being that your desperation has taken over you to influence you to write this post, you have a bit of a way to go.

A womans emotions are only controlled by a man that is in control of his. A man in control of his doesn't go getting attached.

I already stopped texting her. It was a rookie mistake. It's been a while since I've gotten a girls number and she's a lot hotter than the type of girls I am used to so yeah I let my emotions get the better of me and I put her on a pedestal. I think you hit it on the head. I let her have all the power because of her looks and I didn't preserve my interesting, deeper qualities like you're talking about on your website. I got a long way to go inside and out. But I'm reading your stuff right now. Pretty decent stuff so far bro, only problem I have is $35 is steep for just an ebook man.

Have you sold many ebooks? Where do you get your sources from? Where did you learn these 35 rules for being a better man?


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I never suggested you buy it, its for who its for. And Its against forum rules to discuss things like this on public topics. Such topics are reserved for PM's or emails.

But what I can say is that, who decided that knowledge should be cheap? People pay 30 dollars for a meal that will be gone in 20 mins never to return, but frown up paying for wisdom that remain with them for a life time. I think everyone should charge more for accumulated knowledge. We put value on the most temporary things.

Life is about knowing your worth. Getting women is about knowing your worth. It's all tied in together. The more you appreciate others worth, the more you'll appreciate your own. What is seen outside is only a reflection of what is within.

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I never suggested you buy it, its for who its for. And Its against forum rules to discuss things like this on public topics. Such topics are reserved for PM's or emails.

But what I can say is that, who decided that knowledge should be cheap? People pay 30 dollars for a meal that will be gone in 20 mins never to return, but frown up paying for wisdom that remain with them for a life time. I think everyone should charge more for accumulated knowledge. We put value on the most temporary things.

Life is about knowing your worth. Getting women is about knowing your worth. It's all tied in together. The more you appreciate others worth, the more you'll appreciate your own. What is seen outside is only a reflection of what is within.
I like your style. You're definitely slick, but I can tell you live what you're preaching. It's all part of your character. Nice man. Nice. I'm feeling it. It feels like you believe what you're saying. Anyway I'll think about it. I might make you and David Dangelo my primary mentors in this game.


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I might make you and David Dangelo my primary mentors in this game.
Lol

I'd be honored.

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