Update:

Wanted to go to the mall today to try approaching directly but didn't have the chance since some douche hit my car at the gym in the parking lot and took off.

Went to the super market to pick some stuff up for dinner and noticed this really cute asian girl working a free sample stand. I saw that the sample tray was almost empty and said

Me: "oh man! Popular sample i guess?"

Her: Haha yeah

Me: Well i just wanted to walk over say tgat i thought you looked beautiful today

Her: Acts bashful and almost uninterested in continuing conversation "Oh thank you"

I feel as though i didnt come up and say it as confident as i could have. I felt my body already leaning away as if i was ready to bolt and i didn't make eye contact what so ever

Humble beginnings i guess. this direct is pretty challenging for me it seems

Think about it. It sounds uncalibrated that you went from breaking the ice with something irrelevant and then suddenly you say that she is hot. It's a bit indirect and feels like a trap. It;'s like when a bum asks you for directions then suddenly asks for money.

It would of been better to simply of been direct for the open. Or you could at least of said 'I'm sorry, that was the worst way to break the ice, I couldn't think of any chat up line i'm Tim '

Anyway, fair play for going for it but do you feel like you're putting in the effort?

It seems like you do one approach and then call it a day, It is like you dip your toe only in the water and run away because you don't like the feeling. Surely you heard of social momentum? This is like jumping into the sea after you have already been swimming for 20mins. You can easily jump right back in as many times as you want, just like approaching girls. Perhaps you may wanna make a rule that the 1st 3 girls are warm ups only?

Could you perhaps call it a day after at least 10-20 approaches instead? no?

Trust me, the 1st approach is always feels bad and awkward, but let's say hypothetically she was your 10th approach that day, her reaction will be much better - guaranteed.

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I know they sound like excuses but i had to run to the body shop before they closed to get a quote on my car. I wanted to go to the mall today before work. It's one of my main reasons for getting to the gym earlier than usual.

Yeah i can see what you're saying. I still find myself reverting back to starting conversation with something slightly random or off topic.

I don't have much of a problem with this. Volume is the problem.

It is like you're going to a basketball court, taking only one shot at the hoop & whether you score or not, you go home and moan about it on the internet.

When you go out next, could you approach 10 girls at least? no excuses. You could be out right now and doing it. You are simply not doing what is required at getting good at this.

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You're right man. Im currently sitting in the mall after being here for two hours and cant get the courage to approach one person directly instead of being a pussy and commenting on something stupid.

I don't think i got this anymore. Sitting here thinking that this is exactly why i deserve shitty relationships with women who are emotionally damaged and looking for someone with even terrible game.

Back from the dead:

So I got really down on myself after sitting in that mall. Really thought that I had nothing to offer to this and really wanted to just give up.

I went to school the next day feeling pretty down and i met up with a friend of mine when i saw he was with a really cute girl. I started talking to her, asking her about her dreams and open ended questions and i got a little last minute courage in me to compliment her. I told her that to me her sense of determination (she had a difficult major) was really beautiful. She lit up and started going on. I didn't transition to get her number or a date but i felt better. I decided that maybe i should try and inkect something nice in the middle of talking to them?

I used the same approach on another girl later that week and I got the same result. I talked about how her toughness was a pretty attractive quality. She lit up and started talking and elaborating how that's how she is. Again, no number or instant date but whatever.

Ran into a girl today that i was interested in a year ago when i was still in the courtship stage with my now ex girlfriend. We had a class together and i would talk to her from time to time. She would seek me out after class and give me random compliments and such but i ignored it because i was no official but mostly exclusive with the girl i was currently dating. For the passed year i always thought of that as a mistake. Ran into her and a friend and got to talking. Needless to say, this time really felt jumbled and overall just not that great. This was the first time i was talking to someone while they had a friend around and overall never felt like i made much of an impression to get that spark. I felt the situation becoming more pressed and inorganic so i ejected but not before getting her (and her friend's) number. Texted her and no response. Didn't even wait a few hours to reach out. Yeah it's a one-itis type feeling and I'll get over it but that kind of sucked.

I've also been practicing on the waitresses at work to be more confident at just fucking expressing my interest which seems to be my problem.

I feel like i've made progress in terms of maybe having some "ah ha!" moments with just expressing that i find soemthing about them attractive but i still feel lost and jumbled

I'm also aware it's not 10 a day but i don't see how i can really find that many people. I go to a pretty small school and i can run out of people pretty quickly

Practice your social skills on everyone. You will come to be a boss someday. Don't give up. You are having small successes and it only gets better from here. Just don't take things personally.

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It's actually kind of great seeing this in my thread for once. I know i probably haven't done much to earn this response from anyone but it really helps not seeing a post rip me for what i didn't do. I appreciate it man.

How do i get this streamlined outside of practice? I still feel like I'm stumbling around in the dark. One thing that worked last time doesn't seem to land right the next time

Confidence man. Its not about what you do its about how you do it. I literary had a friend walk up to a group of girls and say " Whats up bitches" and they laughed and playfully hit him. Hell i laughed to because he asked if i could wing him and that was completely unexpected. I challenged him to try it again the next time we were out and he got cursed out.

As you develop your confidence you will see more and more success. The likeliness of what your saying being successful regardless of what it is, a reflection of how sure you are about what it is you're saying.

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You've never been afraid, but have you been careless? What standards did you try to hold up to yourself, when approaching women? Maybe you still make lots of mistakes, even if you have no problems with staying at a close distance to them.

Yeah, your game is terrible. You went to her without any real purpose, so when you went out of your ability to remember your memorized pick-up lines because of awkwardness you were unable to rely on your own intuition to continue the convo naturally.

i actually do believe this is the second time you've attacked me in this thread. I went out of my way to get my point across as quickly as possible as a means to practice just overcoming that anxiety and i get attacked by a blatent troll.

So please, keyboard jockey, do tell me what to do with all your vast knowledge as it seems you can't even read a thread without missing information

get a prostitute, it helps, it will make you less needy.

I've considered this actually. This and just diving a fatty

don't ever pay for sex. but if you wanna bang a fatty...your call haha. they are generous.

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I had another thread about fatties so maybe just to get this dry spell over with

I also hired a buddy of mine to take some better quality Edit: pictures for Tinder so we'll see if that helps