So I'd like some feedback from the pros out there regarding my most recent situations. Unable to close the last 2 girls (Blondie + Brunette) that I've met. They both had me spend the night at their place, but wanted only wanted to cuddle. I will keep things as brief as I can.

With Blondie, I've gotten as far as intense make out and dry humping to getting her bra off and nipple play. But she will not go further bc of ASD. I genuinely like this girl so at first, I was like, "ok cool, shes trying to be a classy girl and doesnt sleep around". A few days after that I meet up with her late at night and walked her home. She took us the a long roundabout way to her house that was along the water. Then she invites me to spend the night, but not have sex. She just wants me to hold her, make out and cuddle. Its 330am at this point. I obviously go for it, but am shot down.

For Brunette, I went out with her for a day 2 last night. We had a great time on our little meet up and ended up at her place. I get to the same point again where I have her shirt off and I am sucking on her tits and making out, and she tells me shes on her period. I tell her blood doesnt bother me, but she is still uncomfortable so we dont have sex. or anything else. No BJ, no nothing. Its like 1am and she is tired and she wants me to hold her and make out and sleep again. She may have been on her period, which is fine, I was just super thirsty bc I did not close the last 1.


Now I'd like some advice or opinions on whats happening. I am escalating as best as I know how to do. Making out, rubbing entire body, sucking tits, biting neck, dry humping, breathing and nibbling ear etc etc. I can hear both girls purr or groan with pleasure at what I am doing. Should I be more forceful and rip off their pants? Do you have any suggestions for escalating?

Also, do I look like a complete pussy for staying the night and cuddling?

Hahah, dude, no.

You don't look like a complete pussy for spending the night. It's fine. As long as you escalate things further each time.
I'm guessing you can't deal with LMR's properly. The right way to do it is simple. Agree, amplify, escalate.

If she says "We're not having sex tonight" she's already thinking about it. So reply "Of-course we're not having sex tonight. You have to wine me and dine me first". Agree and amplify, get it? Then once you're at her place escalate physically.
Whatever objection she throws at you, keep doing the above. Agree, amplify, escalate. The idea is to listen to her actions, not her words. Unless she clearly tells you to stop, at which point that's exactly what you're gonna do.

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It depends bro. Do you actually like them or are you just trying to close?

From my personal experience the only girls that give me anti slut defense are the girls that I would hesitate to kick out of my house if they did. Or the women that I would hesitate to leave there house if they did. So basically, if a woman intuitively knows that you're willing to stay and cuddle even if she doesn't fuck you. Why fuck you? Especially this early in the game. Its too big of a risk for her. She sleeps with you -You may stay the night, you may lose interest and leave. She doesn't - You stay the night and cuddle. Seems like an easy choice to me.

Women aren't as dumb as the pretend to be at times. They know when they're with a guy thats likely to lose interest if they sleep with him right when he wants it. If theres even a possibility that he'll lose interest they'll buy more of his time and get more investment before giving in.

The game men and women play is pussy vs time.. Men want the pussy without having to give up that much of their time and women want as much of a mans time before having to give up the pussy. Thats the game you're playing in the beginning. Guys that get friend zoned are usually guys that give up TOO much of their time before getting the pussy, and women that get left are the women that give up the sex without getting much time and/or emotional investment for the guy first.

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Yes, complete pussy, you should only do things if you have an interest behind them. If you do something as extreme as spending the night with hot chicks while putting up with their desire to cuddle/tease you with no apparent reason behind it what are you going to look like? The only possible explanation they'll come to for you wanting to do that is that all you care is about getting it on with them and are willing to humiliate yourself that much just to have an apparent chance of getting it done.

I genuinely like spending time with both of them. And I 100% want to fuck them. Thanks for the feedback Eddie




Also, Thanks R.C. I am still learning how to counter LMR. It can be said that I am not the most patient person

You like them? What do you like them for? For the prospect of having sex with them? Or is it the cuddling that is arousing you so much?