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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:36 am 
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Well that didn't take long...

I expect a phone call to follow very soon.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:17 am 
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Man, saying hi to 5 random women is harder than I thought.

First I went to a supermarket, but all the women I wanted to say hi to were either with someone, or intently staring at something. I tried circling a few times around the aisles but still couldn't find the opportunity to say hi to those few who were alone. So I left before I start to look like a stalker.

Then I went to a park where people jogged and walked. Saw a few cute girls, but they either had someone with them, or were actively looking away avoiding eye contact as I walk pass them. I kept my eyes on them hoping they'd look at me, but none of them did.

I'll go to a mall and try again later after work.


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Went to 2 malls and managed to say hi to 5 girls, but the outcome was not good.

First girl was in a pharmacy. I saw 2 girls(one tall one short) who look like Korean tourists enter a pharmacy, so I went in from the other end to walk towards them. The tall girl was in front of the shorter girl so as she came close I half-stepped in front of her and she looked up, and as soon as our eyes made contact I said hi. She immediately looked down at the merchandise on the shelf and pretend she didn't head me. I walk pass.

The rest were all locals. Remember I'm an Asian guy in an Asian country.

I met the 2nd girl as I was walking around the mall. I said hi and nodded as she walked pass(she didn't look at me), and she literally bolted to the side and walked away.

3rd one was a staff member of a shop who was standing outside the shop. I was looking at her as I approached by she didn't look my way. I said hi as I walked by, but she just kept looking ahead.

4th one Was coming down the escalator as I was going up. Our eyes met briefly and when I was close enough I said hi, but she looked away.

The last one was coming into the mall as I was leaving. I said hi as she was walking pass, and she actually stopped and asked, "Do I know you?". I said "No, but I just wanna say hi because I think you are very beautiful."

She just turned and walked away.

I will try again tomorrow. I think daytime may be better for something like this.

I just hope I don't end up creeping out a girl who would call the security on me.


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Went to 2 malls and managed to say hi to 5 girls, but the outcome was not good.

First girl was in a pharmacy. I saw 2 girls(one tall one short) who look like Korean tourists enter a pharmacy, so I went in from the other end to walk towards them. The tall girl was in front of the shorter girl so as she came close I half-stepped in front of her and she looked up, and as soon as our eyes made contact I said hi. She immediately looked down at the merchandise on the shelf and pretend she didn't head me. I walk pass.

The rest were all locals. Remember I'm an Asian guy in an Asian country.

I met the 2nd girl as I was walking around the mall. I said hi and nodded as she walked pass(she didn't look at me), and she literally bolted to the side and walked away.

3rd one was a staff member of a shop who was standing outside the shop. I was looking at her as I approached by she didn't look my way. I said hi as I walked by, but she just kept looking ahead.

4th one Was coming down the escalator as I was going up. Our eyes met briefly and when I was close enough I said hi, but she looked away.

The last one was coming into the mall as I was leaving. I said hi as she was walking pass, and she actually stopped and asked, "Do I know you?". I said "No, but I just wanna say hi because I think you are very beautiful."

She just turned and walked away.

I will try again tomorrow. I think daytime may be better for something like this.

I just hope I don't end up creeping out a girl who would call the security on me.
I'm fucking proud of you bro.

You made the necessary changes and now you're actually getting out there and making shit happen.

Keep going dude.

You have to build up your emotional resilience. You want to BREAK emotionally and then HEAL back stronger. Thats what the deleting the numbers was all about. Thats what the harsh SPAM was about. Breaking you emotionally, so you can heal stronger.

You know how the muy thai fighter kick trees until they break there shins so the bone and heal back stronger? And they repeat it and repeat it until its unbreakable. Same process, you're just doing it emotionally.

Keep posting, and keep this up.

Rejection is good. It strengthens you.

And there is NO perfection situation to say "hi" in.. It will be awkward at times, but you just have to get it done.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 4:46 pm 
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Thanks bro. I will keep trying.

I wish there's someone there to watch me and then tell me what I did wrong though(facial expression, timing, tone of voice, approach etc) so I can nake the corrections. Right now I feel like I'm trying to play chess with the lights off.
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You know how the muy thai fighter kick trees until they break there shins so the bone and heal back stronger? And they repeat it and repeat it until its unbreakable. Same process, you're just doing it emotionally.
That's a myth, they don't do that. It's just a silly gimmick someone did at one time to mess with people. I work in a MuayThai gym and I have toured MuayThai gyms in Thailand and I have ask all of the gym owners if they actually train like that and they said no hahahaa


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Thanks bro. I will keep trying.

I wish there's someone there to watch me and then tell me what I did wrong though(facial expression, timing, tone of voice, approach etc) so I can nake the corrections. Right now I feel like I'm trying to play chess with the lights off.
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You know how the muy thai fighter kick trees until they break there shins so the bone and heal back stronger? And they repeat it and repeat it until its unbreakable. Same process, you're just doing it emotionally.
That's a myth, they don't do that. It's just a silly gimmick someone did at one time to mess with people. I work in a MuayThai gym and I have toured MuayThai gyms in Thailand and I have ask all of the gym owners if they actually train like that and they said no hahahaa

Haha ruined it!. I use that analogy all the time and now i.. can't. lol

But yeah, thats when coaching comes in, but what i can tell you is that is more about how you "Feel" - you're "state" before you say "hi" then it is your actual body language or facial expression. Take care of the inside and the outside will take care of itself. And this challenge is helping you tackle the inside.

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Haha ruined it!. I use that analogy all the time and now i.. can't. lol
Sowwy! hahaha
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Take care of the inside and the outside will take care of itself. And this challenge is helping you tackle the inside.
I hope I can survive this challenge with 30 more direct hits to my ego still to come.


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Caught up in a shit load of work and is super stressed so will not be free or in the right frame of mind to do the challenge until this is over.

Will report back as soon as I have done the next 5.


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Caught up in a shit load of work and is super stressed so will not be free or in the right frame of mind to do the challenge until this is over.

Will report back as soon as I have done the next 5.
How hard could just saying " hi " be bro?

There is never going to be the ideal or perfect circumstance to start something new.

And honestly , the more stressful your situation the more you will gain from pushing through it and making advancements.

You didn't delete those girls numbers for nothing. Creating new habits ain't ever easy. There will always be "something" - a decent logical reason provided by your subconscious(who's job is to seek comfort/survival and nothing more) to prevent you.

I say push on through.

Just five girls.

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I didn't even check this thread until now after dropping off that last post, and it's 2am and I just got home not long ago.

But I decided to take some time to say hi to girls today just to distract myself from the stress of these few days(even though I knew it'd probably cause me more stress). Anyway here goes.

Had to get my car serviced so the first girl I said hi to was at the auto garage. She said hi back but probably out of courtesy since we were both waiting for our car to get done. She didn't seem interested to talk more so I didn't push further.

2nd girl was at a supermarket. She looked surprised and did a double take, probably thought I'm someone she knew.

3rd girl was also at the supermarket. I was paying for quite a fee items and the girl behind me only had one item, a kg of cottage cheese, so I say, "hi would you like to go frst?", and she said thanks and went ahead of me. Then I asked, "making a cheese cake?", to which she replied, "no, just some dip, I don't know how to bake." Then I said, "oh you can make non-bake cheese cake, it's s super easy." By this time she'd finished paying and she said, "thanks, I'll look it up" And left.

4th one I met while walking to my car, she just ignored me.

5th one was outside of my work place on the street. She nodded slightly and walked by.


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I didn't even check this thread until now after dropping off that last post, and it's 2am and I just got home not long ago.

But I decided to take some time to say hi to girls today just to distract myself from the stress of these few days(even though I knew it'd probably cause me more stress). Anyway here goes.

Had to get my car serviced so the first girl I said hi to was at the auto garage. She said hi back but probably out of courtesy since we were both waiting for our car to get done. She didn't seem interested to talk more so I didn't push further.

2nd girl was at a supermarket. She looked surprised and did a double take, probably thought I'm someone she knew.

3rd girl was also at the supermarket. I was paying for quite a fee items and the girl behind me only had one item, a kg of cottage cheese, so I say, "hi would you like to go frst?", and she said thanks and went ahead of me. Then I asked, "making a cheese cake?", to which she replied, "no, just some dip, I don't know how to bake." Then I said, "oh you can make non-bake cheese cake, it's s super easy." By this time she'd finished paying and she said, "thanks, I'll look it up" And left.

4th one I met while walking to my car, she just ignored me.

5th one was outside of my work place on the street. She nodded slightly and walked by.
Sounds a lot better than day one to me. Imagine the improve on day 30.

You're headed in the right direction. And I know you didn't expect this to be easy.

You're showing clear signs that you're one of us. Its all social training.. Proceed.

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I didn't even check this thread until now after dropping off that last post, and it's 2am and I just got home not long ago.

But I decided to take some time to say hi to girls today just to distract myself from the stress of these few days(even though I knew it'd probably cause me more stress). Anyway here goes.

Had to get my car serviced so the first girl I said hi to was at the auto garage. She said hi back but probably out of courtesy since we were both waiting for our car to get done. She didn't seem interested to talk more so I didn't push further.

2nd girl was at a supermarket. She looked surprised and did a double take, probably thought I'm someone she knew.

3rd girl was also at the supermarket. I was paying for quite a fee items and the girl behind me only had one item, a kg of cottage cheese, so I say, "hi would you like to go frst?", and she said thanks and went ahead of me. Then I asked, "making a cheese cake?", to which she replied, "no, just some dip, I don't know how to bake." Then I said, "oh you can make non-bake cheese cake, it's s super easy." By this time she'd finished paying and she said, "thanks, I'll look it up" And left.

4th one I met while walking to my car, she just ignored me.

5th one was outside of my work place on the street. She nodded slightly and walked by.
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1) I was at a client's office for an appointment and while walking to the client's room a cute girl was walking towards me.
Me: Hi, are you ivan's sister?
She: Erm...no
Me: Oh my apologies, I thought you are. What's your name by the way?
She: Grace.
Me: Nice to meet you Grace. I'm Hank.

I shook her hand, bid her goodbye, and went to meet my client.

2, 3 & 4) Went to a supermarket next to client's office and managed to say hi to 3 women. This time I changed my approach a little by asking them if they know where I can find a particular item in the supermarket. This worked much better than just saying hi as they walked pass.

5) Stopped a girl on the street to ask for the time(told her my phone ran out of battery so she won't get suspicious)

Not sure if some(or all) of them are ok since I used a bit of trickery, but I was getting fed up of being given that 'creep' look/response when I just say hi out of the blue.

On another note, I need some advice:
I hve a FBuddy who's a single mother in her early 40s whom I haven't met up with for almost a year because I wanted to get into a serious relationship. She recently contacted me and wanted to mert up(she's from a different town). Should I oblige, or remain celebate to work on my game?


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1) I was at a client's office for an appointment and while walking to the client's room a cute girl was walking towards me.
Me: Hi, are you ivan's sister?
She: Erm...no
Me: Oh my apologies, I thought you are. What's your name by the way?
She: Grace.
Me: Nice to meet you Grace. I'm Hank.

I shook her hand, bid her goodbye, and went to meet my client.

2, 3 & 4) Went to a supermarket next to client's office and managed to say hi to 3 women. This time I changed my approach a little by asking them if they know where I can find a particular item in the supermarket. This worked much better than just saying hi as they walked pass.

5) Stopped a girl on the street to ask for the time(told her my phone ran out of battery so she won't get suspicious)

Not sure if some(or all) of them are ok since I used a bit of trickery, but I was getting fed up of being given that 'creep' look/response when I just say hi out of the blue.

On another note, I need some advice:
I hve a FBuddy who's a single mother in her early 40s whom I haven't met up with for almost a year because I wanted to get into a serious relationship. She recently contacted me and wanted to mert up(she's from a different town). Should I oblige, or remain celebate to work on my game?
This is a tricky one, but I'll give you both perspectives..

On one hand, it would be cool to get some feminine affection coming your way. It'll lessen the stress, but it almost become a bit unmotivating for the direction you are trying to take your life. And this just goes to show what happens when you forget about women and start making improvements to better your life.. They eventually come back.. one way or another. 1 Week into your challenge and a old chick comes back asking to meet.. Coincidence? I think not.

I'd personally advise you to reject the offer and continue to plow forward with your life. Releasing your seed is not something you should be participating in right now unless you've earned it. The release of semen has a negative affect on a males aura and innate attractiveness to the surrounding women. Any man who's held his seed for 60 days and maintained contact with women will tell you that the women were all over him.

And the point of the "hi" is to get the creep looks.. And to watch those creep looks transform into pleasant looks as you build up your resistance to the thought of being rejected. I do respect you persistence. May it continue..

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This is a tricky one, but I'll give you both perspectives..

On one hand, it would be cool to get some feminine affection coming your way. It'll lessen the stress, but it almost become a bit unmotivating for the direction you are trying to take your life. And this just goes to show what happens when you forget about women and start making improvements to better your life.. They eventually come back.. one way or another. 1 Week into your challenge and a old chick comes back asking to meet.. Coincidence? I think not.

I'd personally advise you to reject the offer and continue to plow forward with your life. Releasing your seed is not something you should be participating in right now unless you've earned it. The release of semen has a negative affect on a males aura and innate attractiveness to the surrounding women. Any man who's held his seed for 60 days and maintained contact with women will tell you that the women were all over him.
Noted. Will not meet up with her.

However, this brings up a question I've been meaning to ask.

I understand the logic that holding our seed makes us more sexually 'radiant', which is advantages in attracting women. But since the whole point of being a successful PUA is to bed as many women as possible, on a regular basis, aren't those two actions conflicting each other?
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1 Week into your challenge and a old chick comes back asking to meet.. Coincidence? I think not.
I can't see how anything I do could have any influence on her actions since I haven't been in touch with her for almost a year and she's in a different town. Plus I've taken care to keep her away from my friends by always going to another place instead of my town or hers when we met up in the past.
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And the point of the "hi" is to get the creep looks.. And to watch those creep looks transform into pleasant looks as you build up your resistance to the thought of being rejected. I do respect you persistence. May it continue..
Ok, I understand now. Will do it the right way from now on.

Here's today's report:

1) Went to visit a friend in the hospital and while walking to the front entrance I saw a pretty thing sitting on a bench looking at some files(presumably a young doctor doing her housemanship). As I walked pass I extended my hand and said hi, and she surprised me with the sweetest smile! Maybe she though I'm a former patient of hers, but damn that felt good.

2 & 3) Said hi to couple of nurses on my way in. One covered her mouth and giggled, the other one look confused.

4) On the way to my car from the hospital(hospital do not have indoor car park), random girl on the street. She pretend not to see me.

5) Stopped over at a commercial area with shops and walked around a bit to find my last target. Finally saw a girl in office attire walking towards me. Said hi as she passed and she smiled(probably thinks I'm a clinet of her office).

It's not getting any easier to force the 'hi' out of my mouth but I'm getting more thick skinned, as in the response don't bother me as much as before, so I guess that's a good sign.


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