Going out with friends and a target - shall I use MM?



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:45 pm 
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Next saturday I'm going to the club with a great friend (not a pua artist but knows something about the game), his girlfriend and a friend of her. My friend's girl arranged this all so it could be a "couple meeting", but I have never even talked to her friend. I found her pretty attractive and decided that she's a target. Should I use the MM? I'm thinking about using the group theory, applying some negs and as she gives me IOIs, I phase-shift. Do u guys think it's ok?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:48 am 
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i think some of the phases from MM are irrelevant for this occasion.

but i do not see why not? if you feel confident about MM then apply it.
my problem with using MM is that its linear, that you move from phase to phase.
do not over think every single thing, you do not have to neg every girl.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 8:30 am 
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By MM I'm assuming you mean Mystery Method?

I'm not a fan of unnatural game to be honest. I think it provides absolutely no palpable long term results, and I don't mean that as in long term relationship. I'm saying it's not a fix, just a very unstable work-around to a core problem. Besides, if you plan on spending more than 5 minutes with this girl you'll find yourself running out of material.

Anyway, club means high energy, so be sure to keep escalating. Negs can work but teasing is better. Plain and simple. Keep it fun, sexual and be sure to enjoy yourself.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:16 am 
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MM works fine if you really know how to apply. understanding concept is easy, executing is super hard, might make u come out as a try hard and incongruent, which will hurt u even more than just being urself. If u are that good to use it, then use it. But, no offense, it seems like u are not advance pua that need these canned stuff. So I would say use it but keep in mind, not to go beyond and do weird shit like the cube and all palm reading. I used MM before when I firstly got into game, it got attraction a bit, then I lost them cuz girls see me as gimmicky. Good luck


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MM works fine if you really know how to apply. understanding concept is easy, executing is super hard, might make u come out as a try hard and incongruent, which will hurt u even more than just being urself. If u are that good to use it, then use it. But, no offense, it seems like u are not advance pua that need these canned stuff. So I would say use it but keep in mind, not to go beyond and do weird shit like the cube and all palm reading. I used MM before when I firstly got into game, it got attraction a bit, then I lost them cuz girls see me as gimmicky. Good luck
That's just it though. An advanced PUA doesn't need MM. Or any gimmicky routines. It's meant for newbies and based on the concept of fake it till you make it. But that road is excruciatingly long if "making it" means anything beyond a #close/5min interaction.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:26 am 
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Dude, you are going to a CLUB. You know, that really NOISY and CROWDED place? You know what that means? It means that you are not going to be able to talk much cause you won't be able to hear each other.
Forget about the cube and palm reading. That's ok for bar game, not for clubs.
In a club it's all non verbal and therefore you better master your body language and movements if you want to get a girl.

Personally, I used MM when I started, but abandoned it beacuse i didn't get the results I wanted. I got the central points of it and moved on to more advanced stuff. If you go out with me you'll never see me go to a girl and ask "who lies more, men or women?" except when I want to have fun with my wingmen.

Btw, did you think about the possibility that your friend's gf set up this thing because she thinks you are the right guy for her friend? Even if you never talked to each other before, your friend's gf probably talked really well about you and therefore acted as your wingchick. And believe me, there is no better help than a friend of your target trying to put you two together. If this is the case, you just need to dance with her for a bit and k-close her. Just remember not to fuck it up someway.


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Thanks dudes, your words are some solid stuff.

By the way, I am not thinking about it. Although I am not too much experienced with the game, I have built myself since 15 (4 years ago) a natural game, without even knowing I was doing it - found it my way to pick up girls. I had my godfather as a great wingman (since he is only 13 years older than me) and I thank him for building a natural me.

As I am getting introduced to the game of PUA's, I thought about using the MM to start applying what I've been reading and learning with you and some books (that's my will here - to improve my game with more options, studying and using as many methods as I can). My target will be with me and the friends in a lounge inside the club, so we will have some peace to talk. And Cesare, yes, my friend's girl worked it all as a wingchick - she has been talking about me to this target and she once talked about me as the perfect boyfriend for her. As I made it clear that I do not want a serious relationship right now, she said something like "Take it easy, whatever you do, I think she'll like it".

I will work it naturally, starting only with the group theory, keeping it in mind not to make her angry. Maybe I'll neg her too. But you guys should know that I do not think being artificial is good to me - when I mean using MM, I mean only having what I know how to adapt to my natural game. No overthinking here, it's all about being on the top and having the right reactions to all the actions.

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Thanks dudes, your words are some solid stuff.

By the way, I am not thinking about it. Although I am not too much experienced with the game, I have built myself since 15 (4 years ago) a natural game, without even knowing I was doing it - found it my way to pick up girls. I had my godfather as a great wingman (since he is only 13 years older than me) and I thank him for building a natural me.

As I am getting introduced to the game of PUA's, I thought about using the MM to start applying what I've been reading and learning with you and some books (that's my will here - to improve my game with more options, studying and using as many methods as I can). My target will be with me and the friends in a lounge inside the club, so we will have some peace to talk. And Cesare, yes, my friend's girl worked it all as a wingchick - she has been talking about me to this target and she once talked about me as the perfect boyfriend for her. As I made it clear that I do not want a serious relationship right now, she said something like "Take it easy, whatever you do, I think she'll like it".

I will work it naturally, starting only with the group theory, keeping it in mind not to make her angry. Maybe I'll neg her too. But you guys should know that I do not think being artificial is good to me - when I mean using MM, I mean only having what I know how to adapt to my natural game. No overthinking here, it's all about being on the top and having the right reactions to all the actions.

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Sounds much as 90% natural game, and if you are good at it, I don't think you'll have big problems. Let us know how it goes!


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