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I love how you made a lil bit of a deal about this and you so easily slid in there.

Good job dude.

Keep the updates coming.
Thanks Eddie.

Hopefully this will turn into a lay report by morning.

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She was sick as fvck yesterday. Kind of a bad timing but I went for it anyway.
I told her to come spend the night and she said that she kinda feels like a wreck. I suggested she can feel like a wreck at my place as well.
She hinted that "we both know what's going on here", so I replied by asking her just how easy she thinks I am, and told her not to overthink sh!t. The conclusion was that she "might come".

Her answer was genuine but I'm not an idiot so I didn't hold my breath. Went out with some friends instead but still texted her at around 9 PM.

Me: "You letting yourself be expected princess?"
Her " :)) princess I just woke up. I can't make it... cant get outta bed,sick. tomorrow if you're free I'm coming."


It's really good that she rescheduled on her own initiative right? I think I got this.
Good job on not hesitating to make other plans. I mean that. Most guys would've stayed home getting wet each time their phone lit up.

Don't contact her today. Don't talk to her at the office either unless she approaches you. Let her follow up on that proposition herself. If she does, you're clearly in. If not you can hit her up later just as you did yesterday.

You don't need advice OP, you need to keep doing what you're doing.
Thanks, it was a really fun night too.

That's exactly what I was planning on. She's working from home today too so it won't be an issue. However, she contacted me already.

Her: "Princess you got a printer?"
Me: "I'm at the office. I have multiple printers"
Her: "Yea but at home?"
Me: "Yea, got one @ home too."
Her: "so I can print the plane ticket"
Her: "ok great then I'll see you tonight at your place"
Her: "also I want that alphabet soup you promised :* :))"

It's not necessarily a matter of needing advice, but with girls I actually like it can only help to have outside perspective on the situation. Prevents me from getting in my head.
I love how you called her bluff with the printer pretext.

Anyway, great job. You're almost there.

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Fuck. Or rather, didn't fuck. I couldn't get the kill.

She came over, escalation was pretty easy but hit about 3 stages of light LMR.

"We work together. Don't you have principles?", with a smirk on her face. I used to tell her I don't date coworkers before all this started. It's been our inside joke since.
You listen to her actions not her words, so I agreed, amplified and kept escalating.

"How old are you again?". Same smirk, taking a cheap shot at the fact that I'm 22. She's 24 but her usual demographic is guys in their late 20s / early 30s. Jokingly replied "25". She then said "Sure sure. I could be your mom". Lightly shoved her away and replied "A'right, go home. My libido is dead for the next 6 weeks." She laughed and jumped me again. Agree, amplify, escalate.

At this point she had no problem with me running my hand under her shirt / in the back of her jeans. No bra. Fuck yes.
Then I reversed her on top and she basically dryhump/grinded on me while wildly making out for a good few minutes. She was all over me, getting really into it, but stopped me as I was about to take her shirt off. I said "It's cool", but froze for a moment and half-panicked since I was really not expecting that. Took me by surprise and I honestly didn't know how to escalate further. I choked.

Things kinda cooled off there and I didn't manage to get the ball rolling again. Fuck. Time was also pressuring us since she she had some more packing to do at around 1:30 AM, her feeling sick didnt help much and we both were really tired. Excuses? fuck yeah they are.

Anyway, made out with her again in the doorway. In hindsight maybe I should've just pulled her back to my room as a last ditch, but instead, this time I stopped and told her "Ok ok, run". I felt like trying yet again would come off a bit as needy so decided to do the opposite. Took a gamble, hopefully it pays off. But fuck me if it feels that way right now. She did seem reluctant to leave though.

If I were to invite her over today, I'm 99% certain she'd be screaming my name in 3 different languages. Except her plane is leaving in one hour.

She has about 3 other dudes chasing. We talk about our "side-projects" every now and then. Two are apparently friendzoned and she doesn't find them as attractive in the least. I know one of them, I don't think he has what it takes. She logged on facebook yesterday for a few moments and these 2 guys immediately jumped her. Like literally 1 second after showing online. She also forgot her account logged. The thought seeped into my mind but I immediately discarded it. Doing shit like that would destroy my identity and all I stand for.
She clearly stated interest in third, but he's married and about 30 something. They made out a few times and he invited her on a holiday but she refused. I don't get it, I'd fuck that particular guy myself. Something about morals.
I always encourage her to go for a dude if she likes him. Because fuck it, if she's gonna be with me it's because I'm better than the competition.

Finally, from what I can tell she treats all those guys quite badly. Like your typical orbiters, to varying degree. She's never been disrespectful towards me though, and we really seem to get along quite well.

So:
1. Did I fuck it up? Should I have been even more aggressive? Her affection was almost girlfriend-ish, all of our dialogues where fun, lots of big smiles and overall happy SPAM. I was actually enjoying these "cuddly" moments. It's disgusting.

2. Also what do you suggest I should do over the course of these 3 weeks? Text a few back and forth's every few days while keeping it light and fun or should I go for "building a deeper connection", talk to her a bit more frequently about her experience there and all that?

And holy fucking shit this turned out to be a huge wall of text. But it's entertaining, so read it.

PS: She initiated texting this morning.

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Fuck. Or rather, didn't fuck. I couldn't get the kill.

She came over, escalation was pretty easy but hit about 3 stages of light LMR.

"We work together. Don't you have principles?", with a smirk on her face. I used to tell her I don't date coworkers before all this started. It's been our inside joke since.
You listen to her actions not her words, so I agreed, amplified and kept escalating.

"How old are you again?". Same smirk, taking a cheap shot at the fact that I'm 22. She's 24 but her usual demographic is guys in their late 20s / early 30s. Jokingly replied "25". She then said "Sure sure. I could be your mom". Lightly shoved her away and replied "A'right, go home. My libido is dead for the next 6 weeks." She laughed and jumped me again. Agree, amplify, escalate.

At this point she had no problem with me running my hand under her shirt / in the back of her jeans. No bra. Fuck yes.
Then I reversed her on top and she basically dryhump/grinded on me while wildly making out for a good few minutes. She was all over me, getting really into it, but stopped me as I was about to take her shirt off. I said "It's cool", but froze for a moment and half-panicked since I was really not expecting that. Took me by surprise and I honestly didn't know how to escalate further. I choked.

Things kinda cooled off there and I didn't manage to get the ball rolling again. Fuck. Time was also pressuring us since she she had some more packing to do at around 1:30 AM, her feeling sick didnt help much and we both were really tired. Excuses? fuck yeah they are.

Anyway, made out with her again in the doorway. In hindsight maybe I should've just pulled her back to my room as a last ditch, but instead, this time I stopped and told her "Ok ok, run". I felt like trying yet again would come off a bit as needy so decided to do the opposite. Took a gamble, hopefully it pays off. But fuck me if it feels that way right now. She did seem reluctant to leave though.

If I were to invite her over today, I'm 99% certain she'd be screaming my name in 3 different languages. Except her plane is leaving in one hour.

She has about 3 other dudes chasing. We talk about our "side-projects" every now and then. Two are apparently friendzoned and she doesn't find them as attractive in the least. I know one of them, I don't think he has what it takes. She logged on facebook yesterday for a few moments and these 2 guys immediately jumped her. Like literally 1 second after showing online. She also forgot her account logged. The thought seeped into my mind but I immediately discarded it. Doing shit like that would destroy my identity and all I stand for.
She clearly stated interest in third, but he's married and about 30 something. They made out a few times and he invited her on a holiday but she refused. I don't get it, I'd fuck that particular guy myself. Something about morals.
I always encourage her to go for a dude if she likes him. Because fuck it, if she's gonna be with me it's because I'm better than the competition.

Finally, from what I can tell she treats all those guys quite badly. Like your typical orbiters, to varying degree. She's never been disrespectful towards me though, and we really seem to get along quite well.

So:
1. Did I fuck it up? Should I have been even more aggressive? Her affection was almost girlfriend-ish, all of our dialogues where fun, lots of big smiles and overall happy SPAM. I was actually enjoying these "cuddly" moments. It's disgusting.

2. Also what do you suggest I should do over the course of these 3 weeks? Text a few back and forth's every few days while keeping it light and fun or should I go for "building a deeper connection", talk to her a bit more frequently about her experience there and all that?

And holy fucking shit this turned out to be a huge wall of text. But it's entertaining, so read it.

PS: She initiated texting this morning.
Think of it like this..

What happens if she doesn't fuck you? You'll probably think about her more, offer her more attention because you came so close, and like her more for having the strength to resist having sex with you under those circumstances.

What happens if she does? You will have conquered you mission ( to fuck her before she leaves) and will be able to relax a bit and pursue her less because you got that out the way.

So for her, is it better to fuck you or not fuck you?

Of course its better not to, if you're looking at this from a business perspective.

There is no doubt in my mind that she wanted to sleep with you, its obvious. Who doesn't want to enjoy pleasurable sex? However, it was better for HER if she didn't. She won't always be so able to resist, but she managed to escape this time.

Now lets say if your mentality was " Whether she fucks me or not, I'm not going to pursue because she's leaving."

She probably would of fucked you because there was nothing in it for her if she didn't.

So from my perspective; you just dealt with normal high quality women shit. The only thing you could of done was have a differ perspective, which would of gave you a different frame.

Good job though; you'll get it when she gets back.

I'd lay low if you were. Let her of 75% of the initiating, and just chat with her when she does.

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Eddie's perspective is interesting. I also think she wanted to sleep with you. I mean she knew damn well what's up when you asked her over. I know it's hard to put yourself in her position but think about it? would you have acted differently? If the SPAM was so good and she was smiling a lot, being affectionate, teasing the fuck outta you to leave a lasting 3-week impression is exactly what she planned on doing. Because she likes you.
Women are not stupid, especially quality ones. She knew that fucking you then and there would've increased your chances of fucking someone else while she's away.

But even so if we're wrong, it could clearly have gone much worse. I know countless stories that involve half-boner cuddling over watching a movie to the background sound of the guys' soul slowly being crushed by awkwardness.

Here's what you did really good:
- You escalated. You didn't close but you took your "thing" with her to another level regardless. Up until now you were just making out, now you're intimate. Not fully, but damn close. A ****up can be considered not closing next time she's at your place.
- You created comfort. Big smiles? little to no awkwardness? lots of affection? that's good. She enjoys spending time with you.
- You didn't pressure to the point of becoming needy. Encouraging her to go after guys she likes shows willingness to walk away and that you're not over-invested.
- It takes a lot to respect her privacy when the opportunity simply lays itself out for you. Congrats, few would've made that decision.

OP the point is that you seem to have your sh!t together quite well regarding some core fundamentals. The fact that she texted you first in the morning only makes it better. Over the next weeks text her, hit her up every now and then but don't be afraid to let her initiate.
Keep in mind that regardless of how this turns out, you did well. Way above average actually. That's a success in and of itself.

Either way, I think you got this.

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Think of it like this..

What happens if she doesn't fuck you? You'll probably think about her more, offer her more attention because you came so close, and like her more for having the strength to resist having sex with you under those circumstances.

What happens if she does? You will have conquered you mission ( to fuck her before she leaves) and will be able to relax a bit and pursue her less because you got that out the way.

So for her, is it better to fuck you or not fuck you?

Of course its better not to, if you're looking at this from a business perspective.

There is no doubt in my mind that she wanted to sleep with you, its obvious. Who doesn't want to enjoy pleasurable sex? However, it was better for HER if she didn't. She won't always be so able to resist, but she managed to escape this time.

Now lets say if your mentality was " Whether she fucks me or not, I'm not going to pursue because she's leaving."

She probably would of fucked you because there was nothing in it for her if she didn't.

So from my perspective; you just dealt with normal high quality women shit. The only thing you could of done was have a differ perspective, which would of gave you a different frame.

Good job though; you'll get it when she gets back.

I'd lay low if you were. Let her of 75% of the initiating, and just chat with her when she does.
That makes sense, yea, I can't deny that it was the better deal for her.

It's not out of the question that she'd be smart enough to pull something like that off, and if that were the case I'd actually be impressed with her.

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Eddie's perspective is interesting. I also think she wanted to sleep with you. I mean she knew damn well what's up when you asked her over. I know it's hard to put yourself in her position but think about it? would you have acted differently? If the SPAM was so good and she was smiling a lot, being affectionate, teasing the fuck outta you to leave a lasting 3-week impression is exactly what she planned on doing. Because she likes you.
Women are not stupid, especially quality ones. She knew that fucking you then and there would've increased your chances of fucking someone else while she's away.

But even so if we're wrong, it could clearly have gone much worse. I know countless stories that involve half-boner cuddling over watching a movie to the background sound of the guys' soul slowly being crushed by awkwardness.

Here's what you did really good:
- You escalated. You didn't close but you took your "thing" with her to another level regardless. Up until now you were just making out, now you're intimate. Not fully, but damn close. A ****up can be considered not closing next time she's at your place.
- You created comfort. Big smiles? little to no awkwardness? lots of affection? that's good. She enjoys spending time with you.
- You didn't pressure to the point of becoming needy. Encouraging her to go after guys she likes shows willingness to walk away and that you're not over-invested.
- It takes a lot to respect her privacy when the opportunity simply lays itself out for you. Congrats, few would've made that decision.

OP the point is that you seem to have your sh!t together quite well regarding some core fundamentals. The fact that she texted you first in the morning only makes it better. Over the next weeks text her, hit her up every now and then but don't be afraid to let her initiate.
Keep in mind that regardless of how this turns out, you did well. Way above average actually. That's a success in and of itself.

Either way, I think you got this.
Oh god yea, those cringe-worthy couch-hugging stories are horrific.
That's why a few beers prior are sometimes a good idea. We were both 100% sober though.

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She initiated again at night via facebook. Chatted a bit. Sometimes I'd take a bit too long to reply since I was talking with some other friends at the same time. She didn't hesitate on throwing different topics my way when this happened to regain my attention. She also didn't hold back on the cheeky flirting, inside jokes or on giving me the "us" mentality. Basically she did what I'd do when I'm gaming a girl.

I'd say it's going good so far. I intend to lay low for a while and like Eddie say, let her do ~75% of the initiating.

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Think of it like this..

What happens if she doesn't fuck you? You'll probably think about her more, offer her more attention because you came so close, and like her more for having the strength to resist having sex with you under those circumstances.

What happens if she does? You will have conquered you mission ( to fuck her before she leaves) and will be able to relax a bit and pursue her less because you got that out the way.

So for her, is it better to fuck you or not fuck you?

Of course its better not to, if you're looking at this from a business perspective.

There is no doubt in my mind that she wanted to sleep with you, its obvious. Who doesn't want to enjoy pleasurable sex? However, it was better for HER if she didn't. She won't always be so able to resist, but she managed to escape this time.

Now lets say if your mentality was " Whether she fucks me or not, I'm not going to pursue because she's leaving."

She probably would of fucked you because there was nothing in it for her if she didn't.

So from my perspective; you just dealt with normal high quality women shit. The only thing you could of done was have a differ perspective, which would of gave you a different frame.

Good job though; you'll get it when she gets back.

I'd lay low if you were. Let her of 75% of the initiating, and just chat with her when she does.
I'd actually be impressed with her.
No you wouldn't, because she's just being a girl and more than likely it isn't conscious. It's just in the air of the vibe. Women are responding to intention, not direct word or action. Just because guys don't operate like this doesn't mean it's anything significant. If I knew what 2 + 2 was and you didn't should you be impressed? No. It's like being impressed with a woman having a vagina.

I just had to chime that in, because that's how oneitis starts. Very small, with little things like that that are the snowballs that pick up steam and become giant snow bolders as they roll down the hill.

Focus bro.

She's smart, not significant.

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No you wouldn't, because she's just being a girl and more than likely it isn't conscious. It's just in the air of the vibe. Women are responding to intention, not direct word or action. Just because guys don't operate like this doesn't mean it's anything significant. If I knew what 2 + 2 was and you didn't should you be impressed? No. It's like being impressed with a woman having a vagina.

I just had to chime that in, because that's how oneitis starts. Very small, with little things like that that are the snowballs that pick up steam and become giant snow bolders as they roll down the hill.

Focus bro.

She's smart, not significant.

You're not wrong. Thanks for keeping me in check :).

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A'right, almost 1 week in. She initiated me 3 times in total, last of which were yesterday and Sunday. I didn't get the chance to initiate her myself yet.

Apparently she's the only woman at that office, so she's getting showered with attention. Who would've though, right? That's great though, since she's getting so much attention from everyone but the guy she wants it from.
Anyway, I hinted that I might have to leave on a business trip myself once she gets back. That's half-true although I pretty sure that's not gonna happen till May or June. She replied that "they had better wait with that. If I'm coming back in April, at least a month until you leave".

Kept the interactions short and fun though. I don't wanna get into those "how was your day" topics, especially since I won't be physically seeing her for 2 weeks. I don't think that level of "comfort" will be beneficial in regards to sexual tension.

I plan on ghosting until Friday. I'll be having a lot of things to do this week and an upcoming vacation on Saturday.

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A'right, almost 1 week in. She initiated me 3 times in total, last of which were yesterday and Sunday. I didn't get the chance to initiate her myself yet.
Well done. Lots of guys don't really have the patience to wait things out but it almost always pays off.
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Apparently she's the only woman at that office, so she's getting showered with attention. Who would've though, right? That's great though, since she's getting so much attention from everyone but the guy she wants it from.
Only woman in the office? you must work in engineering. Or IT. Not to generalize, but most will be chumps in that case.
Anyway, while that's somewhat true, don't get lost in the details. Doesn't matter what other guys are / aren't doing. She wants you. That's pretty obvious at this point.

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Nice read on working in IT.
Our office actually has a higher ratio of women but over there it's a complete sausage fest in most offices.

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A'right, almost 1 week in. She initiated me 3 times in total, last of which were yesterday and Sunday. I didn't get the chance to initiate her myself yet.

Apparently she's the only woman at that office, so she's getting showered with attention. Who would've though, right? That's great though, since she's getting so much attention from everyone but the guy she wants it from.
Anyway, I hinted that I might have to leave on a business trip myself once she gets back. That's half-true although I pretty sure that's not gonna happen till May or June. She replied that "they had better wait with that. If I'm coming back in April, at least a month until you leave".

Kept the interactions short and fun though. I don't wanna get into those "how was your day" topics, especially since I won't be physically seeing her for 2 weeks. I don't think that level of "comfort" will be beneficial in regards to sexual tension.

I plan on ghosting until Friday. I'll be having a lot of things to do this week and an upcoming vacation on Saturday.
Aweosome man,

Just don't get "too" cool.. "too" laid back. She's behaving as expected and she will continue you, but make sure you push yourself to initiate on the next turn around. It's so easy for us to get comfortable with the way things are especially because we're "enjoying" it so much. But if you know anything about women you know they ALWAYS push for me. The whole " You're either going to shit or get off the pot".

You when girls begin asking for an escalation of the relationship but us as guys are like " Why can't we just keep things like this! Its perfect this way"..

So don't get to laid back. Stay up on your toes and prepare to initiate shortly.. You can pull bit a lil bit after that, but don't get too careless.

And don't send no casual " Hey how are you?" text either - Even though I'm sure you won't.. Send a cool picture or something. Just to stir emotions.

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