Went to the bar the other day with a group of friends. One of them was interested in a SUPER cute bartender working. He went over and got denied with a typical response of "Oh I have a boyfriend". Not trying to be a dick but he's not the best looking guy or smoothest. The thing is --- I caught her smiling at me several times throughout the night and looking over at me. There was one time I even was walking 180 degrees behind her bar station about 2 feet away from her and she turned around, looked directly at me, smiled, and turned back. When I say bar station I just mean that she doesn't work at the main bar; she's at a small desk sized bar to the side.

She looks my age, maybe younger (I'm 23). Hard to describe her style, definitely one of those sweet girls that is not a bitch.

I went over to her station and asked if I could open a tab, she smiled and politely said it was cash only, I was going to go from there but half of me kind of didn't know what to say and the other half of me felt like I had to walk away because a group of people were waiting to order.

I found this old forum with a few helpful topics: hired-guns-vt952.html

I think it would be a good idea to demonstrate value 1st and 2nd time, leave her wanting more, then try to close during close. Still curious about what to do when and if she brings up the boyfriend. If she does bring him up should I just bail since if she was interested she probably wouldn't even bring him up?

Anyways, I'm going to go back there again on Saturday or Friday and if she is working go talk to her.

The things is, most guys don't want to admit to a woman that they're interested. Try to break this standard!

Probably if you go up to her and say something along the lines of 'You look great.' It's easy and she knows your interested. Just get to know her a bit, ask her name, where she comes from, favorite color, dream job, etc. Then after a couple of minutes, don't talk to long, she's working. Tell her: "What do I need to do to get your number?" It's funny, just smile and wait.

If she says something like; my boss is watching, if have continue working. Just tell her: "Would it break your heart if you would talk/chat/flirt with me for two more minutes?"

By being direct and expressing interest she will be interested as well, women love to be desired. Try to keep the SPAM relaxed and aloof. That ought to help.

Great advice. I can kind of tell from her personality that she is the type of girl that would love hearing what you mentioned. She seems very fun, down-to-earth, simple, yet spontaneous. The type that even if you aren't funny will genuinely laugh just because she loves life.

Sounds like a great woman, if I knew where she lived you might have a bit of competition

If you want to make her laugh you can also say: "This is going to make you laugh" Before actually telling her the story. I know it sounds silly, but it works. Just don't make it too long, she's there on the job and doesn't want to get into trouble. Also don't try to drag the conversation. Make it quick, witty and short.

If you get her number call her the next day. Tell her you had a great time in the bar and make a short joke, something like: "I think my drinks were fuller than those of the other guys, was that you?" Try to keep the vibe right when you talk to her.

Haha genius. Just hope she gives me the number and not the boyfriend line. I'm stubborn when I find a girl that is as great as her, if she does give me a boyfriend line do you find that it is best to just leave it be or use some witty line to try and get the number still?

Careful buddy, you may be putting her on a pedestal already. From what I gather you only had a brief exchange. How can you know all all that? She will appreciate a compliment? She will genuinely laugh? She loves life?

Careful

So many responses to this:

You can try to call her BS. Oh really you have a boyfriend what's his name?

Or be funny ... How many boyfriends do you have? Just one? That's so old school, I could be your second if you'd like

Or go with something like ... Hey I wasn't asking if you had a boyfriend, I was asking for your number ... it's cool if you really had one, we can still hang out as friends right?

I'm kind of with Manila on this one. Your last response made it look like you really wanted her. Women will smell neediness form over a mile away. Be interested, be funny, but do not try to impress her to much, let her work for it a bit.

And if she really has a boyfriend go with Manila's advice. For long term game you could also use the straw man technique. A guide to it was made by CharmingRouge some time ago, check it out:

straw-man-technique-vt43374.html

If she has a boyfriend, there is no reason you can't get her number/facebook etc to hang out as friends, specifically for example to go on a night out with her and her friends. As a general rule I always try to remember that typically, hot girls hang out with other hot girls (sometimes hotter), not always but usually. So rather than use all your energy in trying to get this one girl away from her boyfriend, why not befriend her and have a nice warm introduction to her HB friends?
If you've gamed well with her up to this point, it'll be a case of "Oh guys this is freestylpolaris, he's such a cool guy!" and there you have pre-selection as well as someone they no doubt trust as their friend to be a good judge of character (after all, they're friends with them right?) telling them that you're a cool guy and they should give you the time of day to run your game.
In turn you could then just look to befriend the whole group and all of a sudden your network of females multiplies even further, go out with the group of them and you'll have massive pre-selection wherever you go.

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Man... its easy. you must frame it as if though there is something going on between you two.

An example: if she brings up the boyfriend by saying "oh i have a boyfriend" simply reply "Oh my god!! I just met you and you're already telling me your problems?!!! slow down " this way you actually made her boyfriend a problem. and who is in a relationship free of problems??? no one! after that switch to a different routine, chicks tend to forget threads so use that to you advantage.

good luck

My opinion is actually the opposite of this, my favorite line from i don't remember who is
"oh i have a boyfriend"
"I wouln't hold that against you, my favorite colors red what's yours?"
I never acknowledge the boyfriend other than to say something that relays i don't care, and then move on, there's no reason you should be having a conversation about a hot girl you like about her boyfriend (at least at the opener stage), and definitely no reason to keep it in her mind while you are with her

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