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xfman
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 Posted: Wed Sep 27, 2006 11:30 pm Post subject: HIRED GUNS |
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| Anonymous wrote: | Oh hey Xfman,
I was wondering what hired guns are.
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HIRED GUNS - Females in the service industry that are usually recruited for their good looks, such as strippers, waitresses, etc.
Many people believe that bartenders are the hardest girls to pick up, Maybe you have a point because they get a lot of attention but you can get their attention really easy, With some NEG's and correct DHV and Body language your in. 
Why they have all the attention ?
Because there is a bunch of AFc trying to get in her pants.
Example:
AFC: HI
Hired Gun : HI 
AFC: Can you give me two shots of tequila and a third one for you 
Hired Gun: Yeah sure.
What is he doing worng?
Buying her drinks does not impress her, She is a bartender , she can have as many shots as she wants and all the guys buy her drinks, you’re probably the 1000 guy tonight to buy her a drink and the last thing she wants is another one. That is just a normal AFC attitude.
Bartenders are probably the girls in the bar or club that get hit on the most, so they have 10 times the experience of most women. You might think that this is a bad thing but, my experience has taught me that since they get hit on so often, they get bored at the usual techniques and jump at the idea of something new.
So what happens when some guy NEG her and tell some funny stuff ?
Yeah they get interested because they are so bored and there is a new guy making her laugh 
Bartenders are used to the guy’s trying to seduce them right away; but by creating attraction first this gets them get interested. They also have an ego built to the sky so negs have the biggest effect on them. The best thing about hitting on a bartender is that time constraint is already built in since your just there for a drink then back to the dance floor.
The difficulties are that you only have short period of time with her. She is working!
You’re not the only customer she has. So the two minutes you will be spending with her must be priceless. If you are in the middle of a DHV story, (btw DHV stories are very useful if you know how to use them) and she goes to serve another customer don’t wait for her to come back and finish your stories, leave, she’s not going anywhere.
I personally like to go back to the bar two to three times a night, more can seem needy. As you’re progression continues you will see how;
Your first conversation last two minutes or less,
The second five minutes as she ignores a customer or two
And your third conversation, which is done at closing, will last ten minutes as she completely ignores everyone but you.
It is closing so there are less people in the club neways. After those eight to twelve minutes you bail out getting her number. This causes her to be intrigued by you, which she will then want a real conversation with you where you can tell all those unfinished DHV stories..
Credit to Strike22 ( Edited by XFMAN.) |
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xfman
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| Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: HIRED GUNS PART 2 |
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This is just one of the best routines ever...
Restaurant Routine:
Waitress: Hi, I’m (name), I’ll be your server for the evening. (smile at her)
I: Rock ON (name)! I hope you’re not as bad as the last one! (fake concern face)
Waitress: What was her name? or I’m sorry, I hope I can do better.
I: I didn’t want to know her name, it was SO BAD or IDK about that, you seem high-maintenance. (any cold-read neg)
Waitress: (weird face or giggling) What would you guys like to drink?
I: (If under 21) Well, if you don’t card here, I’ll take a BUD… otherwise, surprise me. (big smile)
Waitress: (giggling or weird) Okay then. (waitress goes to get drinks)
You should be done A1 and already executing A2
I: (before she gives drinks) So, what you get me?!? (act interested)
Waitress: I got you a (drink name).
I: OMG that’s horrible! Is that what you drink? We would never get along!! (jokingly)
Waitress: (giggling) I’m sorry. You didn’t tell me what you wanted!
I: Ok I’ll drink this one but next re-fill you’re picking a new one okay…? (disappointed face) (waitress goes away)
A2 DONE she should be interested, if not, attracted to you. A3 time.
Waitress: (this time don’t respond when she comes back b/c she should be eager for your approval) OK I got you a (drink name).
I: Wow that’s more like it… I think you might be getting good…(wink and smile)
Waitress: (blushes/happy) Thanks…
**This is when you stop her from leaving**
I: So what else do you do besides flirting with guys and waiting tables?
(if she reacts to the flirting in a bad way, neg her by saying “I didn’t say you were, geez!”)
Waitress: I hang out w/ friends, movies, beach blah blah blah…
I: (Compliment her and accept her now, but not her looks) O that’s awesome… (say something relevant to her response or even short story) I love the beach… one time we got pretty much the whole beach partying it up… it was amazing… everyone was branching out to us, it so was crazy!
From there… just fluff it out and keep teasing her… build C1 at that location.
I: (before leaving, remind her how fun it was and that you should cont. this) Wow that was surprisingly fun! We should continue this sometime. N-close, if she has not already. Make sure you're always being the alpha male, speak loud and clear, body language must be confident and relaxed.
Act like you own the restaurant.
Credit to Strange (edited by: XFMAN)
Success, XF.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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| For those that were wondering how to get hired guns and for those that asked here is the post I was talking about hired guns. |
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magicJ2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: hey |
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X, how much tip do you leave to the waitress or bartender after you gamed her and got her #
lol
thnks
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| Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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For waitress I give her a normal tip (15%) but I like to let a small candy like a chocolate or something else so she thinks of me all day long.
And for the bartenders some times (If they have those small bowls where you put the tips on) I put in there a funny note or something funny that make her laugh and remember you. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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i love this. thanks man itll come in useful. what cold readings could i use here?
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| Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Some good information here. I've also heard and seen that some hired guns (like strippers) will give you false IOI's, when you have shown interest. This is a trap you must not fall into. |
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| Not gonna lie, a guy who lived in my apartment had the uncanny ability to tell whether or not a woman was a stripper. Like if we went to the bars on a weekend he had pointed out every stripper hired by a bar to show up, dance, and draw guys in after bein there maybe 10 minutes. Never saw him pull one, but it made life sooooo much easier. |
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| Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:36 am Post subject: |
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| don't game waitresses and bartenders at places you hangout regularly (as opposed to places you sarge in) is my advice to you. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Kukulkan wrote: | | don't game waitresses and bartenders at places you hangout regularly (as opposed to places you sarge in) is my advice to you. |
Is it safe to assume you have a story about attempting this scenario? I'm interested if you do considering I was thinking about doing this though I wouldn't consider the venue in mind a place where I regular. I understand the whole concept of not shitting where you eat.
...damn a thread started in 2006. It's a shame this thread isn't more popular. It has some useful information and even though I do not use routines, I can see this one working decently well. |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | ...damn a thread started in 2006. It's a shame this thread isn't more popular. It has some useful information and even though I do not use routines, I can see this one working decently well. |
There are a lot of good, old threads that are hidden down there. Every now and then someone will make them reappear  |
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