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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:32 pm 
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Day 61: 10th October 2013
Never again...!

Goals:
- Didn't really have goals, just wanted to go out.

Field report:
Well, now I know 2 things.
1: My friends cockblock me too much during sarging!
2: I will never EVER be SO DRUNK again.

My friend from home town came over and we were going out. At first my 2 female roommates wouldn't go, but later on they decided to actually go anyway. At the fraternity it was free drinking all night long for a decent price. So we decided to go there first, and later to the city. He bought a 500ml bottle of Vodka and we drank that one empty in just 20-30 minutes. THAT must have been the biggest mistake of the night.

Then at the fraternity I was already f*cking drunk as hell and the night just started. Strong liquor destroys more than I thought. At the fraternity I bought a shirt with the logo on it, but later on I'll explain that it's a loss of money. So we paid the price and drank some beers. More drunk. Started socializing a little bit already with people I"m getting to know (that's positive at least).

So later my friend and I walked to the city around 12 pm. From that part it's quite a grey area. I don't even remember where we parked my bicycle. We went to bar #1 and I hang my jacket there on the wall. (note: everyone can just hang it there for 'free'). From that bar I can't remember much. My shirt was inside the jacket.

I guess we got bored and went to the 2nd bar. Also grey area but I remember 2 things. 1 was where I opened a 2-set of which 1 girl was in relationship and the other was single (both were good-looking). We made a little bit of an American Pie 2 contest (the lesbian scene). They kissed each other only once on the lips and told us to do the same. I mocked them and just hugged my friend. A little bit later (grey area) somehow I managed to let the single girl give me a kiss on my lips (so she basically made the move). I guess it was like 3 seconds or so? But I was sooooo drunk that I didn't kiss her back. They then walked away I believe.

After that set on my left I noticed another pretty girl. I approached her, talked with her but didn't spark her interest. I then started talking to one of her friends and she was VERY interested! Right away she was kino'ing me around my waist and stuff. It was on! Well guess what? I was about to kiss her and my friend pulls me away, saying: "Hey man, let's go home I'm tired". Me: "Dude what? You told me you wanted to go all the way to the end!". Him: "Naah, forget that, let's go home". Crap. I was sooooo drunk that I insisted and just left my girl there, all warmed up....

We walked back to bar #1 and I couldn't find my jacket. It was over my friends and he still had his. I searched all over but couldn't find it. We walked outside discussing, and I tried one more time to get back in. The security guard didn't let me enter and said: "No you're not getting in, you're waaaaayy to drunk". Me: "But my jackets still in there!" Him: "Doesn't matter, go home, you're not getting in!". I walked away with my friend home. I could barely walk, I must have fell 3 times on the ground. And without jacket I was very cold! I complained to my friend saying: "Why the f*ck did you pull me away, you saw me with that girl!" Him: "Naah dude, she was a dragon!" (dragon in our language means Ugly as f*ck). I'm sure she wasn't and I actually think he got jealous.

The next morning when I woke up, he wanted go home already at 8:30 am, and we got home 4:00 am! My head was about to EXPLODE. It took me a while to get up, went to the toilet, stepped into my housemate's (upcoming) GF and she asked if I were ok. Me: "Just a big hangover". She laughed and walked further into the kitchen. I got up at the toilet and must have thrown up my whole inside out. It was horrible. I heard my friend outside asking if I was ok and asking If I was coming with him. Me: "Sorry man, I can't, I really can't!". He left without me saying: "Get some sleep, I'll cya later". I get back into bed with my the biggest headache of my life and finally got some sleep. It took me half the day to get that hangover away. Lessons learned, bad night!

What have I learnt today?
- Drunk game: NEVER AGAIN!
- Friends keep cockblocking me, solo is my way to go.
- Win over the ugly friend, and the other friends might get jealous (which happened in this case)
- Opening sets was uncomfortable at first, but it's going better and better.

Wallie

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:54 pm 
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If your are really trying to go out to pick up women I suggest going out completely sober as well as being alone. This forces you to mingle with the strangers at whatever venue you go to and being sober increases your chances of pulling off a SNL since you know what your are doing. If I go out alone I approach the women at one venue then when I exhaust the place I will bounce to another venue. I'm offering some constructive criticism that you could benefit from trying.


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Day 62: 24th October 2013
Ugh... Ugly girls..

Goals:
- In-set: Go for the same-night lay (in the 2nd half of the night)
- Develop a killer instinct; go for it no matter what

Field report:
Crazy, long night. At first I was about to go out in my own city, when a friend texted that he was going to a different city. I said ok and joined them. We first drank some drinks at his place (we were with 4, and 2 of my friends got REALLY drunk). We weren't even in the city yet and during the train ride they were all very loud. We first ate something and then went to the first bar to relax. Some couple was sitting on the opposite of us and suddenly the wife ran away. The guy followed, let a glass fall and the guy his glass was like, What?!? I started talking to him to get comfortable talking to strangers. I turned out he had been in jail, done some stuff like drugs and so and so. I didn't feel uncomfortable, but yet wanted to leave. At some point we did, luckily!

In bar 2 there were almost no people. Wasn't really fun also. There was some kind of photo booth were you can take pictures. We were fooling around at that place, well at least my friends did. I wasn't that much busy with it. No real approaches in this bar.

At the third bar we had fun, and I came upon an old classmate. We had a bit talking and so, and got on the female students topic. I said: "Hey you've got the looks with you, I guess you've got quite a lot right?" He said: "Well don't you either?" I've never even had anyone saying that to me. I felt quite positive about his remark, since sometimes I have questioned it a bit. After he had gone I made one approach with a girl that gave me eye-contact. It was 'OK" and I wanted to get to know the group. It was 2 girls and 2 guys. BUT as soon as I knew their names, the boys were like waving me away to 'get the f*ck off'. I don't know if they were friends, but I did what they subconciously said and left. Soon after we got to the final bar.

In between bar 3 and bar 4 my friend came upon one of his college girl buddies. UGLY AS HELL! And she had a blonde tiny girl who was even UGLIER! Ugh... They started talking with these 2 and the girls were drunk but annoying. I didn't want to stick on the street, but guess what. Once we got in the final bar they sticked with us, the WHOLE night. Now the following what's beign told about the approaches can have 2 things. 1: I was not in the zone, my thought's, words and actions were not alligned or 2: The girls just lowered my value. I made 4 approaches in the final bar and not even one approach was a hook point. All the girls were talking to me but weren't attracted at all. 1 girl was kinoíng me though and guess what: this little blonde ugly girl was pushing me like an ex-gf and sticking with me. She wanted something from me but I really hated that little ugly f*ck. I think she tried to make me jealous by persuasing my friend with kino but I f*cking ignored that sh*t. Well guess what. At the end of the night she was having her hand behind my head, coming very very close and stuff, like she was about to kiss me. I refused to do THAT and she called me boring. I didn't care, and actually laughed when she said that. Well at the end she gave me a kiss on the cheek and I almost puked in mouth. Ugh... She was so drunk she even spilled wine on my friends' pants. While we went out the bar, she asked all 4 of us to stay at her place. Well there is your SNL Wallie. Wait what..? This girl..? Hell NO!! I took the first train at 5:30 am with my friend and went home. My other 2 friends stayed there. Ugh.... After I got home I couldn't believe that the only attracted girl of the whole night was this ugly one.

What have I learnt today?
- Ugly girls might lower my value
- I've been in my head again this night, and probably was outcome dependant
- Nevertheless, my standards will not be lowered, even if I got desperate.

Wallie

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Day 62: 24th October 2013
Ugh... Ugly girls..

Goals:
- In-set: Go for the same-night lay (in the 2nd half of the night)
- Develop a killer instinct; go for it no matter what

Field report:
Crazy, long night. At first I was about to go out in my own city, when a friend texted that he was going to a different city. I said ok and joined them. We first drank some drinks at his place (we were with 4, and 2 of my friends got REALLY drunk). We weren't even in the city yet and during the train ride they were all very loud. We first ate something and then went to the first bar to relax. Some couple was sitting on the opposite of us and suddenly the wife ran away. The guy followed, let a glass fall and the guy his glass was like, What?!? I started talking to him to get comfortable talking to strangers. I turned out he had been in jail, done some stuff like drugs and so and so. I didn't feel uncomfortable, but yet wanted to leave. At some point we did, luckily!

In bar 2 there were almost no people. Wasn't really fun also. There was some kind of photo booth were you can take pictures. We were fooling around at that place, well at least my friends did. I wasn't that much busy with it. No real approaches in this bar.

At the third bar we had fun, and I came upon an old classmate. We had a bit talking and so, and got on the female students topic. I said: "Hey you've got the looks with you, I guess you've got quite a lot right?" He said: "Well don't you either?" I've never even had anyone saying that to me. I felt quite positive about his remark, since sometimes I have questioned it a bit. After he had gone I made one approach with a girl that gave me eye-contact. It was 'OK" and I wanted to get to know the group. It was 2 girls and 2 guys. BUT as soon as I knew their names, the boys were like waving me away to 'get the f*ck off'. I don't know if they were friends, but I did what they subconciously said and left. Soon after we got to the final bar.

In between bar 3 and bar 4 my friend came upon one of his college girl buddies. UGLY AS HELL! And she had a blonde tiny girl who was even UGLIER! Ugh... They started talking with these 2 and the girls were drunk but annoying. I didn't want to stick on the street, but guess what. Once we got in the final bar they sticked with us, the WHOLE night. Now the following what's beign told about the approaches can have 2 things. 1: I was not in the zone, my thought's, words and actions were not alligned or 2: The girls just lowered my value. I made 4 approaches in the final bar and not even one approach was a hook point. All the girls were talking to me but weren't attracted at all. 1 girl was kinoíng me though and guess what: this little blonde ugly girl was pushing me like an ex-gf and sticking with me. She wanted something from me but I really hated that little ugly f*ck. I think she tried to make me jealous by persuasing my friend with kino but I f*cking ignored that sh*t. Well guess what. At the end of the night she was having her hand behind my head, coming very very close and stuff, like she was about to kiss me. I refused to do THAT and she called me boring. I didn't care, and actually laughed when she said that. Well at the end she gave me a kiss on the cheek and I almost puked in mouth. Ugh... She was so drunk she even spilled wine on my friends' pants. While we went out the bar, she asked all 4 of us to stay at her place. Well there is your SNL Wallie. Wait what..? This girl..? Hell NO!! I took the first train at 5:30 am with my friend and went home. My other 2 friends stayed there. Ugh.... After I got home I couldn't believe that the only attracted girl of the whole night was this ugly one.

What have I learnt today?
- Ugly girls might lower my value
- I've been in my head again this night, and probably was outcome dependant
- Nevertheless, my standards will not be lowered, even if I got desperate.

Wallie
I lol! hehehehe!

Clinger level 5, next time have fun with the ugly girls and the group and use as a bridge to get other women...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:55 pm 
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Day 63: 7th November 2013
I don't know why, but i'm losing motivation

Goals:
- This time trying to be outcome independant
- Thoughts-words-actions aligned

Field report:
Some of my friends came over to go out in my college city. We had some drinks at my place, and 1 went home when we were going to the city. The whole night we were in only 1 bar so not much happened.

I made 5 approaches, and most of them were direct. But everytime I made my direct opener, they gave a quick smile and then just ignore me like I wasn't even there. To the point that I didn't even f*cking cared to approach anymore. I lost motivation. I guess outcome independancy is harder than I thought.

But it seems that I'm maybe in a downwards spiral. It's mostly like I have some nights where I do EXTREMELY well, and then a few weeks till sometimes a few months nothing happens at all. It also has to do that I'm still getting used to living alone, in a strange new city, where you don't know many people yet. Also I haven't joined a sport yet, but I"m planning to do it soon. I don't know, I feel a little confused about the transition from dependant, to finally becoming an individual whos not independant anymore, where your more on your own.

What have I learnt today?
- Outcome independancy is hard to achieve, especially when I have been dependant on the opinion of others almost all my life.
- I have to change something in my life itself. I feel like I've lost direction or something. Some fundamentals are not accurately handled and I can sense it with every approach.

Wallie

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:50 pm 
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Day 64: 14th November 2013
Friends can ruïn it for you

Goals:
- Outcome independancy
- Thoughts-word-actions aligned

Field report:
My friend called me up to ask if I wanted to go out in Amsterdam. I said that I didn't want to travel to Amsterdam and just wanted to go out in my own city. He asked if he could go out there as well and sleep at my place. I wasn't totally happy about that, yet I didn't have the guts to tell him that. Some hours later, another friend asked the same thing. Since I said that the first one could come, I told him it was ok if he came too. Lesson learned: Be honest about it, and dare to say no.

So they arrived at 23:20, very late. We waited for the bus which would come at 00:15 and he told us to take the one on the other side of the street, bc that one would arrive 4 mins later. It never came. So we walked towards the city (which takes 40 mins) and they wanted to eat at MC Donalds first. I myself was a bit hungry too and ate as well. Bad choice because after I ate, I had a stomachache for the whole night. But that's not all.

Almost every bar we went in, was quite busy. And all I heard from my friend was how great the city was where he now lives in, all that my city doesn't have, you name it. He nearly got to the point where I was so fed up with his bullsh*t, that I almost lost it and waited to tell him to F*CK off. It totally changed my mood for that night.

We took the taxi home, and went to sleep. The approaches I did that night were O.K. the girls responded quite well every time and I know why. Lately I've been into masturbation too much, that I almost did it every day. That must have killed my mood so I tried to hold it up for a day or 4. Reactions totally changed, I could notice it. My motivation returned, my confidence rose. So I'm gonna try to keep this up as long as possible.

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I also have been thinking a lot about my ex-GF the past few weeks. I started to miss her, and I started to feel alone. When I couldn't take it anymore I asked the people who helped me earlier about what they said. They all said: "Just tell her how you feel". So today (Sunday 17th November, afternoon) I texted her that I wanted to tell something important, and explained how I felt. She was very surprised (note: she had a new relationship after 1.5 months which was now at a "hold") but eventually told me that I would never work out with us. On the one hand I believed we could work it out, but my logical side told me; "She's right, you know this". I told her I had peace with it and I really do. She's a wonderful girl, and I'm glad I had this relationship with her. I've learned much about it. And she was totally normal when saying this, nothing angry at all. Breaking up in person was the best thing to do. It leaves good memories and you hardly remember the bad ones.

What have I learnt today?
- The more I go out with my old friends, the more I start to feel negative towards them. The new experiences I have are totally new and different, that I don't want to go back to the old days.
- Masturbation and porn KILLS my mood and motivation. I believe I had one post earlier in this journal, but I have made the same mistake twice.
- Telling my ex-GF about my feelings were both good and bad. It could've gone the way that she wanted to try again also, which might have happened in another struggling relationship. But the fact that I now KNOW how she feels, gives me peace to search for a different girl.

My purpose joining this forum was to find the girl I would love my life. I've learned that there are many girls who can be like that. I've learned that you can attract more than just 1 woman. Nevertheless would having a happy relationship not be bad. I thank you, skills360, for aiding me in this journey. But I'm sorry to say that I don't think f*cking hundreds of women without having an emotional connection is the thing I want. I will use your guidelines for the future relationship (f*cking first, going back if things work out) and still go for SNL's, perhaps FB's, but I'll see what happens.

Wallie

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:01 pm 
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*Quick Note*

So the past couple of weeks were hard (and I mean after kissing 4 girls in 1 week). I started to lose motivation, álmost tried to get into a relationship with my ex-GF, and making old, rooky mistakes. I've been thinking hard, and I believe that setting up new short-term and long-term goals can help me improve further. Here they are:

Short term goals (time limit: 1 year)
- Joining the local gym (I've actually wanted to do this for a few weeks, but never did)
- Passing the first year of college
- Working on closing ---> the same night lay
- When getting that SNL --> making her my FB (maybe build emotional connection)
- Finding a local job that suits me
- Finding my passion
- Make a list of things I always wanted to do

Long term goals (time limit: 5 years)
- Finding the job that suits me
- Get my own place to live (not just a college dorm)
- Pass my education
- *this one is not 100% sure* Setting up my own business
- Improve my skills with women
- Trying to find out how I will become for the rest of my life.
- Never stop improving.
- Actually do the things I've always wanted to do

These are made for now. They might change in the future, but now I have something to go for. It will push me to improve and go for what I want.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:15 am 
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Day 64: 14th November 2013
Friends can ruïn it for you

Goals:
- Outcome independancy
- Thoughts-word-actions aligned

Field report:
My friend called me up to ask if I wanted to go out in Amsterdam. I said that I didn't want to travel to Amsterdam and just wanted to go out in my own city. He asked if he could go out there as well and sleep at my place. I wasn't totally happy about that, yet I didn't have the guts to tell him that. Some hours later, another friend asked the same thing. Since I said that the first one could come, I told him it was ok if he came too. Lesson learned: Be honest about it, and dare to say no.

So they arrived at 23:20, very late. We waited for the bus which would come at 00:15 and he told us to take the one on the other side of the street, bc that one would arrive 4 mins later. It never came. So we walked towards the city (which takes 40 mins) and they wanted to eat at MC Donalds first. I myself was a bit hungry too and ate as well. Bad choice because after I ate, I had a stomachache for the whole night. But that's not all.

Almost every bar we went in, was quite busy. And all I heard from my friend was how great the city was where he now lives in, all that my city doesn't have, you name it. He nearly got to the point where I was so fed up with his bullsh*t, that I almost lost it and waited to tell him to F*CK off. It totally changed my mood for that night.

We took the taxi home, and went to sleep. The approaches I did that night were O.K. the girls responded quite well every time and I know why. Lately I've been into masturbation too much, that I almost did it every day. That must have killed my mood so I tried to hold it up for a day or 4. Reactions totally changed, I could notice it. My motivation returned, my confidence rose. So I'm gonna try to keep this up as long as possible.

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

I also have been thinking a lot about my ex-GF the past few weeks. I started to miss her, and I started to feel alone. When I couldn't take it anymore I asked the people who helped me earlier about what they said. They all said: "Just tell her how you feel". So today (Sunday 17th November, afternoon) I texted her that I wanted to tell something important, and explained how I felt. She was very surprised (note: she had a new relationship after 1.5 months which was now at a "hold") but eventually told me that I would never work out with us. On the one hand I believed we could work it out, but my logical side told me; "She's right, you know this". I told her I had peace with it and I really do. She's a wonderful girl, and I'm glad I had this relationship with her. I've learned much about it. And she was totally normal when saying this, nothing angry at all. Breaking up in person was the best thing to do. It leaves good memories and you hardly remember the bad ones.

What have I learnt today?
- The more I go out with my old friends, the more I start to feel negative towards them. The new experiences I have are totally new and different, that I don't want to go back to the old days.
- Masturbation and porn KILLS my mood and motivation. I believe I had one post earlier in this journal, but I have made the same mistake twice.
- Telling my ex-GF about my feelings were both good and bad. It could've gone the way that she wanted to try again also, which might have happened in another struggling relationship. But the fact that I now KNOW how she feels, gives me peace to search for a different girl.

My purpose joining this forum was to find the girl I would love my life. I've learned that there are many girls who can be like that. I've learned that you can attract more than just 1 woman. Nevertheless would having a happy relationship not be bad. I thank you, skills360, for aiding me in this journey. But I'm sorry to say that I don't think f*cking hundreds of women without having an emotional connection is the thing I want. I will use your guidelines for the future relationship (f*cking first, going back if things work out) and still go for SNL's, perhaps FB's, but I'll see what happens.

Wallie

I never advocated fucking hundreds of women. So you are miss interpreting my advise. My advise is not to settle for one women and to date multiple women, from those multiple women cherry pick the best and make her your gf once she is proven. I also advocate to fuck them first and fast to get them invested.

You got needy as fuck and called your ex. Cause you were desperate and lonely and had no other choices. I have a girl that i love and she loves me back. But for you to get a girl to love and to love you back you need "references experiences". You settle for the first girl you found and was not proven and that was a horrible mistake and what most "regular people aka Afc do". With that being said there are also dudes that like to fuck hundreds of women, and there is nothing wrong with that approach either. You fail to see that all of my life i had "a main girlfriend" and girls on the side. But i always have had a girlfriend through my life, my current one is almost 7 years.

Again the reason for having sex first and works more than "emotional connection" is cause sex is the highest form of investment that there is way more powerful than "emotional connection". But one does not have to be exclusive of the other, you can have both. But sex first.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 5:20 am 
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*Quick Note*

So the past couple of weeks were hard (and I mean after kissing 4 girls in 1 week). I started to lose motivation, álmost tried to get into a relationship with my ex-GF, and making old, rooky mistakes. I've been thinking hard, and I believe that setting up new short-term and long-term goals can help me improve further. Here they are:

Short term goals (time limit: 1 year)
- Joining the local gym (I've actually wanted to do this for a few weeks, but never did)
- Passing the first year of college
- Working on closing ---> the same night lay
- When getting that SNL --> making her my FB (maybe build emotional connection)
- Finding a local job that suits me
- Finding my passion
- Make a list of things I always wanted to do

Long term goals (time limit: 5 years)
- Finding the job that suits me
- Get my own place to live (not just a college dorm)
- Pass my education
- *this one is not 100% sure* Setting up my own business
- Improve my skills with women
- Trying to find out how I will become for the rest of my life.
- Never stop improving.
- Actually do the things I've always wanted to do

These are made for now. They might change in the future, but now I have something to go for. It will push me to improve and go for what I want.

You are getting some type of "mild onitis" for your ex. What happens is that now she is becoming more of a challenge since you broke up and she moved on. When you look at the past you look at her as fictional good version of her. If she has a guy and you try to get back and she says no, it even make it worst. You miss her and is normal, but you need to move on and meet other women.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:14 pm 
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Day 65: 19th November 2013
Same-night-sleepover

Goals:
- Working on closing -> same-night lay

Field report:
Strange night, went totally different than I thought. At first we had spare rib night at restaurant with some classmates. At 8:30 pm we were about to go home. I walked with 2 classmates and they were talking about chilling at 1 of their places. I was eager to go with them since it was early in the night so I joined them. Turns out he lives quite close to me and lives with 3 guys and 3 girls. 2 of the girls were about to go out in the city so I joined them. 1 of them had a friend. So now I was going out with a whole group of people and I didn't know ANY of them!

Once in the city we had a great time. It didn't take long till I was having fun and dancing around. And it was only 11:00 pm, just the beginning of the night. At the first bar there were more girls than guys, but I wasn't in the mood for approaching yet. We met some guys there and they sticked with us the rest of night (I guess they were friends). It wasn't hard to befriend them. After half an hour we went to bar #2. But we could'nt get in because we were 'too high energy'. Well too bad, but we just went to bar #3. This is where the game started. 1 of the girls (with the friend) was shaking her ass damn sexy and just almost screaming for attention. Let's call her 'Booty girl'. It didn't take long, or one of the AFC guys just couldn't stop 'stalking' her. But everytime he touched and talked with her, she didn't give anything back. I teased her a little bit once in a while when I had the chance, and it worked bc. when i said something to her, or danced with her, she didn't mind and kino'ed me. 1 of the 2 guys we met also tried to get her attention. He did not bad, but eventually she didn't give him much attention either. Also he was very drunk. I believe that the way that I gave her some attention, but push-pulled (e.g. teasing, pushing her away when she teased me back and stuff) really worked out. I noticed her looking at me more and more.

About 1,5 hours later some guy came towards our group. Turned out it was a guy that she friendzoned long time ago. He literally said to me that they were 'best friends'. Even he tried to get attention from 'booty girl'. No effect. When the sexy music came up, I danced real close with Booty girl. It worked, and we got pretty close, but not too close yet. And since everything went so well, the approaches went really well! I got eye-winks from girls passing by, all approaches were warm. I guess that's what in the zone means. Even on the way out, I looked girls deep in the eye (probably seductive), and they all held eye-contact. (this was on the way out of bar #3 and went to bar #4).
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Inside bar #4 it was only me, booty girl and her friend and the BFF guy. He had no chance. At some point the girls were up some sort of 'stage' (not too big) against the wall. The 2 girls got up on it, but I stayed on the ground. It wasn't my intention to go up there. Not until the booty girl reached her hand out. I went up on it and it only took 5 minutes before I was dancing behind her. She was a bit drunk but man at some point she grinded so hard on me that I was pushed against the wall. For like 10-15 songs she was grinding her ass over my cock! I took my hands on her hips, butt, arms like almost her whole upper body. But since we were up some 'stage' I didn't want to go up to her boobs since everybody could see that. Her buying temperature was high and I could feel her getting hornier with every second. I wanted to lead her out of the bar, but she wanted to stay. I asked her friend if I could sleep over and fortunately it was no big deal. So around 3:30 am we went to her home. The friend slept in a 2 personbed and Booty girl and I slept on the sleeping couch. Do I believe I had the chance to f*ck her? If I knew what to do, than yes! But I pussied out. Once I laid next to her, I couldn't kiss her. I had LMR bc her friend was sleeping 3 feet away. Both girls slept pretty fast and nothing happened that night. All I did was lying close up to her (her face away from mine unfortunately). I caressed her legs, stomach, arms, tits but she was unable to be waken up. F*ck, I ruïned my chance... The next morning when I woke up her face was towards mine and she had put her legs over mine in her sleep. Yet I still didn't have the guts to make out with her (even though her friend was asleep). Good lesson for next time, GET THAT KILLER INSTINCT!

What have I learnt today?
- The fact that I almost got a same night-lay with that girl, who got attention from at least 5 different guys, tells me that my skills have develop quite good, yet are far from mastered.
- Next time I'm sleeping over at a GIRL's house where there are 2 girls and me sleeping, I should NOT pussy out anymore!

Wallie

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Day 65: 19th November 2013
Same-night-sleepover

Goals:
- Working on closing -> same-night lay

Field report:
Strange night, went totally different than I thought. At first we had spare rib night at restaurant with some classmates. At 8:30 pm we were about to go home. I walked with 2 classmates and they were talking about chilling at 1 of their places. I was eager to go with them since it was early in the night so I joined them. Turns out he lives quite close to me and lives with 3 guys and 3 girls. 2 of the girls were about to go out in the city so I joined them. 1 of them had a friend. So now I was going out with a whole group of people and I didn't know ANY of them!

Once in the city we had a great time. It didn't take long till I was having fun and dancing around. And it was only 11:00 pm, just the beginning of the night. At the first bar there were more girls than guys, but I wasn't in the mood for approaching yet. We met some guys there and they sticked with us the rest of night (I guess they were friends). It wasn't hard to befriend them. After half an hour we went to bar #2. But we could'nt get in because we were 'too high energy'. Well too bad, but we just went to bar #3. This is where the game started. 1 of the girls (with the friend) was shaking her ass damn sexy and just almost screaming for attention. Let's call her 'Booty girl'. It didn't take long, or one of the AFC guys just couldn't stop 'stalking' her. But everytime he touched and talked with her, she didn't give anything back. I teased her a little bit once in a while when I had the chance, and it worked bc. when i said something to her, or danced with her, she didn't mind and kino'ed me. 1 of the 2 guys we met also tried to get her attention. He did not bad, but eventually she didn't give him much attention either. Also he was very drunk. I believe that the way that I gave her some attention, but push-pulled (e.g. teasing, pushing her away when she teased me back and stuff) really worked out. I noticed her looking at me more and more.

About 1,5 hours later some guy came towards our group. Turned out it was a guy that she friendzoned long time ago. He literally said to me that they were 'best friends'. Even he tried to get attention from 'booty girl'. No effect. When the sexy music came up, I danced real close with Booty girl. It worked, and we got pretty close, but not too close yet. And since everything went so well, the approaches went really well! I got eye-winks from girls passing by, all approaches were warm. I guess that's what in the zone means. Even on the way out, I looked girls deep in the eye (probably seductive), and they all held eye-contact. (this was on the way out of bar #3 and went to bar #4).
__________________________________________________________________________________________
Inside bar #4 it was only me, booty girl and her friend and the BFF guy. He had no chance. At some point the girls were up some sort of 'stage' (not too big) against the wall. The 2 girls got up on it, but I stayed on the ground. It wasn't my intention to go up there. Not until the booty girl reached her hand out. I went up on it and it only took 5 minutes before I was dancing behind her. She was a bit drunk but man at some point she grinded so hard on me that I was pushed against the wall. For like 10-15 songs she was grinding her ass over my cock! I took my hands on her hips, butt, arms like almost her whole upper body. But since we were up some 'stage' I didn't want to go up to her boobs since everybody could see that. Her buying temperature was high and I could feel her getting hornier with every second. I wanted to lead her out of the bar, but she wanted to stay. I asked her friend if I could sleep over and fortunately it was no big deal. So around 3:30 am we went to her home. The friend slept in a 2 personbed and Booty girl and I slept on the sleeping couch. Do I believe I had the chance to f*ck her? If I knew what to do, than yes! But I pussied out. Once I laid next to her, I couldn't kiss her. I had LMR bc her friend was sleeping 3 feet away. Both girls slept pretty fast and nothing happened that night. All I did was lying close up to her (her face away from mine unfortunately). I caressed her legs, stomach, arms, tits but she was unable to be waken up. F*ck, I ruïned my chance... The next morning when I woke up her face was towards mine and she had put her legs over mine in her sleep. Yet I still didn't have the guts to make out with her (even though her friend was asleep). Good lesson for next time, GET THAT KILLER INSTINCT!

What have I learnt today?
- The fact that I almost got a same night-lay with that girl, who got attention from at least 5 different guys, tells me that my skills have develop quite good, yet are far from mastered.
- Next time I'm sleeping over at a GIRL's house where there are 2 girls and me sleeping, I should NOT pussy out anymore!

Wallie
Da fuck! you past on a lay... God!

How many times have a repeated the importance of being SEXUAL, fuck that not fapping crap... Watch porn, be sexual, read sex god by rose... Being sexual is super important...You just past on a snl.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 2:19 am 
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Day 66: 21st November 2013
I F*cking hate my life!!

Goals:
- Find booty girl --> persist that same night lay
- If she doesn't respond well -> find some1 else

Field report:
I must be the dumbest fool on this f*cking planet. Like a two days ago a girl was lying with her booty not even 1 f*cking inch away from my cock and I DIDN'T EVEN F*CKING F*CK THIS GIRL AND PASSED THE SNL. HOW STUPID AM I?!?!? Jesus Christ I'm the dumbest f*ck on this planet.

Like I texted her to see if she was going in the city this Thursday. Sure yeah she would. She had to get up next morning at 8:00 am. Yeah man, that's a good excuse not to pull her ! (goddamnit I'm so dumb). I was trying to kino her, get her attention, LIKE EVERY F*CKING AFC DOES. Oh and guess what, NO POSITIVE RESPONSE. Man I didn't deserve any lay THIS night, I was needy as f*ck, like I am the past couple of weeks.

I can't describe the feeling I have when typing this sh*t down, but I"m pissed at myself so hard. I'm pissed at the fact that I cannot f*ck a girl even if she's an inch away. I'm pissed about the fact that I cannot be sexual. I'm pissed about the fact that I'm the dumbest f*cking guy in the world right now. I'm pissed about the fact that I f*ck up the most basic things in pick-up. I'll just go stupid porn fap and cry myself to sleep. F*ck this sh*t, I'm out.

What have I learnt today?
- I will NEVER EVER have this Last Minute Resistance again! Even if I would have to persist into the hardest challenge ever! (no rape offcourse)
- I have made the most dumbest mistake ever in my f*cking life, and I'll NOT DO IT AGAIN!
- I"m not even close to being sexual, better call myself anti-sexual

Wallie

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Day 66: 21st November 2013
I F*cking hate my life!!

Goals:
- Find booty girl --> persist that same night lay
- If she doesn't respond well -> find some1 else

Field report:
I must be the dumbest fool on this f*cking planet. Like a two days ago a girl was lying with her booty not even 1 f*cking inch away from my cock and I DIDN'T EVEN F*CKING F*CK THIS GIRL AND PASSED THE SNL. HOW STUPID AM I?!?!? Jesus Christ I'm the dumbest f*ck on this planet.

Like I texted her to see if she was going in the city this Thursday. Sure yeah she would. She had to get up next morning at 8:00 am. Yeah man, that's a good excuse not to pull her ! (goddamnit I'm so dumb). I was trying to kino her, get her attention, LIKE EVERY F*CKING AFC DOES. Oh and guess what, NO POSITIVE RESPONSE. Man I didn't deserve any lay THIS night, I was needy as f*ck, like I am the past couple of weeks.

I can't describe the feeling I have when typing this sh*t down, but I"m pissed at myself so hard. I'm pissed at the fact that I cannot f*ck a girl even if she's an inch away. I'm pissed about the fact that I cannot be sexual. I'm pissed about the fact that I'm the dumbest f*cking guy in the world right now. I'm pissed about the fact that I f*ck up the most basic things in pick-up. I'll just go stupid porn fap and cry myself to sleep. F*ck this sh*t, I'm out.

What have I learnt today?
- I will NEVER EVER have this Last Minute Resistance again! Even if I would have to persist into the hardest challenge ever! (no rape offcourse)
- I have made the most dumbest mistake ever in my f*cking life, and I'll NOT DO IT AGAIN!
- I"m not even close to being sexual, better call myself anti-sexual

Wallie

kkk! don't be so hard on yourself just don't let it happen again, there was another guy i was helping that also keep passing on sex, is probably anxiety, they are scare like approach anxiety but is with sex. That is why if you are laying down with the girl give her a massage and do not go for the lay right away cause sometimes that put to much pressure on you and gets you anxious... Dude sometimes i got girls that i am about to fuck and my dick does not want to get hard, and it sucks, since i hate condoms... So next time, just relax, give her a regular massage then micro escalate for a more sensual type massage and then one a bit more sexual that targets indirectly pussy, ass and breast. Get her ready and juicy finger her or eat her out, if you are still not hard jerk off or grab her hand and put it in your dick and have her jerk you off.... But i think it was just anxiety/nervousness... I don't know why you are talking about neediness...

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 7:39 pm 
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Day 67: 28th November 2013
A perfect example of taking your chances

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- Not really set goals, only to have some fun

Field report++:
Interesting night. At first I was planning to go out with housemates, until my classmate invited me over to come at his house (at which the girl (a.k.a. booty girl) lives) so I decided that would be a good option. Some more classmates were coming over as well as other guys who were there last time. It was a good begin of warming up, getting a bit social. We also got some drinks to loosen up. However though, my classmates weren't going towards the city. I contacted the girl at which I slept last time and I could sleep over again. Unfortunately she told me she already has a BF and would sleep at his place that night.

So around 11 o'clock at night I was going towards the city with 2 guys, booty girl and the girl at which I could sleepover. (note: I had to get up next day at 8 am!). Once in the city we also met the BFF from booty girl. He's actually quite a good looking guy, but his game is just not that great. I think that he actually has some potential so get quite some girls if he did better. I might consider to make him a wingman if he wants to.

Once inside the bar I found my housemates and talked a minute of 5 maybe. But I knew that nothing would really happen much If I stayed with them. Since we got loosened up pretty much at classmate's place, I was in social mode already when going in the bar. It didn't take long or I made some direct approaches. In this bar 2 k-closes have occurred:

K-close 1 - Time: 20-25 seconds I believe
This one was pretty damn easy. From what I remember it went like this; I was dancing with the group I entered the bar and it was really close near the entrance. A few girls entered the bar and when I looked at a tiny brunette (with seductive eyes) she held eye-contact with me and I put my hands on her hips without hesitation. We danced for maybe 15 seconds and I k-closed her. She enjoyed it and smiled afterwards. I k-closed her again, but this time when I stopped her friend pulled her away. I didn't see her afterwards anymore.

K-close 2 - Time: 2 minutes
I believe the 2nd k-close was maybe 5-10 minutes after the first one. I saw a quite tall blonde (maybe 5 inches shorter than me, i'm 6ft tall) on my right. I approached her directly with a "You look very pretty tonight". She was German so I continued talking in English bc. my German isn't that great. With this girl I used the 3 question for fast k-close routine (I got that from a youtube video in a post here: kissing-girls-in-30-seconds-video-vt168500.html):
- Do you think i'm attractive?
- Do you have a BF?
- What's your excuse not to kiss me then?
Her answers were:
- Yeah I guess
- No I don't
- I'm not sure.
I didn't hesitate a second and just basically kissed her. But I believe she didn't really enjoy that bc. it was short and after that she walked away. I could be depending on her mood, or the routine, I'm not sure. Perhaps need to field test it more often.

Soon after the k-closes we went to the 2nd and final bar. Here I made approaches but no interested girls. Yet I learned my valuable lesson here. It seemed that when I tried so make a move towards booty girl, she was not happy with it. 1 time she literally pushed me physically (not hard) away and looked kinda annoyed. Some other guy (who was with us last time) was dancing with her soon after and they made out quite a lot in the bar. After I went home and slept at the friends' house with the BFF from booty girl, I heard the next day that the other guy f*cked the booty girl. So that's the difference between me and that guy: He actually took the chance when he could have, and I didn't. Very valuable lesson for me: No more chickening out, just do it!

What have I learnt today:
- Fast seductions work but you still need to win friends over
- 3 questions k-close needs to be more tested
- I missed my chance on the SNL and that turned out to repel the girl. This lesson is NOT to forget!

Wallie

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Day 68: 12th December 2013
Hard night, though good night.

Goals:
- Outcome independance
- Have fun

Field report:
First of all I want to say that my week has been extremely busy. Every day waking up early and every day working my ass off to get our project done in time. This has been resulting in low amounts of sleep, much stress and long, looong days. It was also yesterday a long day.

At around 20:00 pm a female friend of my housemates came to our house (she comes quite regularly) because she wanted to go tothe sorority. I was very tired that night, still working on my school project, and actually wanted to go but didn't feel the urge. As if it felt like a drag to go. Nevertheless my other female housemate wanted to go as well and I didn't want to stay at my place so I joined them. Thank god I did.

It was beer week so you could get special beers for a cheap price. When I arrived at the place some girl in the outside (it was already dark) shouted "Hey Tintin" because my hear was like that. I hang my jacket outside and started talking to them. She was cute but not interested in me. It was also a hard set because her friend was kind of not so happy that I made her being ignored. Once inside I immediatly saw some people to talk to. It didn't take long or I was into social mode, except the thing is that social mode is not the seducer mode we want to get in.

Also whenever I tried to make an approach, someone I knew joined us, started talking to me for a sec, and then just took the attention of the girl whilst me being the one ignored now. This wasn't very pleasant so I figured that inside the sorority wasn't really a chance for a good hook up.
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It wasn't until 1:30 am before we went to the city. At bar #1 there was a 5-set of girls that were quite good looking. I made a natural opener and things started well, the group responded happily towards me. BUT now I felt into the social trap, only talking, no seducing. You can guess what happened, the group slowly had a little bit enough of me. I know what I did wrong here: I forgot to isolate! I also made mistake #2, buying them drinks. I have no freaking idea why I did that. That has cost me at least €5 euro's for nothing. Mistakes were made, and I should learn from it.

I quickly after found the girl at which I've been sleeping over twice. She's a really nice person, and had a cute blonde friend next to her. Unfortunately I can't remember her name, I believe she will be more in the sight in the future. We had a good time and danced a bit. Soon after I found them we went to the 2nd bar and stayed there as well. I had a good time with both girls but unfortunately also here I didn't seduce the blonde friend, I only went social mode. Pushing compliance should've been done. A few more approaches were made but no real results.

After 4 o'clock (the bars close at this time) they both walked with me to get my jacket at bar #1. They said they were hungry so they both went to the nearest pizza place and asked if I joined them. I sure wanted, but quickly before we entered a big stomachache bursted in my belly. I had been drinking at least 3-4 cola's in maybe 1,5 hours and that got me hard. I couldn't stand or sit down. They asked if I wanted to eat something but I said, no thanks and actually went home. Well you can guess that once at home the stomachache was gone and I've missed my chances. Still quite happy that I sticked through even though I was very tired.

What have I learnt today?
- Isolate, Isolate, Isolate. It's all you need, it's been proven again here.
- DO NOT BUY DRINKS FOR GIRLS!

Wallie

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