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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:02 pm 
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Do you KINO in front of other people? Even if it is her friends? If yes, how do you handle ASD?
Let's talk about it. In my opinion that its hard to KINO without isolation due to ASD.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:32 pm 
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ASD...? What the fuck dude. It's called Kino escalation for a reason. You don't just grab her ass, you escalate to it.

I think you've got kino totally wrong here dude. You kino whenever, where ever. If you're going for escalation you escalate friendly kino and you use kino on her friends but not as focused to put them at ease. Kino is like the main technique you have and not something you should be using only in private. Sexual touching in private, general kino and light escalation in person. It shows you're confident, you're used to doing it with women and it puts them at ease knowing this.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 6:40 pm 
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Kino, is a MUST DO!

You can talk a good game and have great body language, but without kino, you ain't getting laid Bro.

Using Kino does not mean dive in and grab the 'goods'. Kino simply “Physical escalation.”

If you’re already established yourself as the type of friendly guy that touches everyone naturally already, it’s no big deal to touch a woman you've just met. It’s natural. There’s nothing wrong with giving a quick touch on the arm or hand, giving a handshake or high five to ANYONE you've just met. In fact, it makes things a lot more lively and fun if you do.

In fact it will likely increase DHV among her friends.

Then once she is comfortable with you touching her GENTLY push the envelope. Yet at the same time, back off before the girl pushes you away. Always leave her wanting more. We as Men have the cool job of taking the lead, and of taking all the risks. And it’s damn fun. If a girl isn't ready for us to go the next step and pushes us away, no problem. Stop and try again later. Allow her time to feel more comfortable to actually being isolated.

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We as Men have the cool job of taking the lead, and of taking all the risks. And it’s damn fun. If a girl isn't ready for us to go the next step and pushes us away, no problem. Stop and try again later. Allow her time to feel more comfortable to actually being isolated.
And it is a lot of fun when you realise this. Once you get used to it you start taking things to the next level and doing things to women you've only seen the most alpha of guys do like having their arms around a chicks waist they've just met, hooked them into them and see the woman totally unphased by it. It's fun and once you start making that progress you don't care so much about the chances of being turned down, infact you calibrate it and start noticing your strengths and weaknesses and become more confident in where you shine.

OP, once you start getting to the point where you can talk to a chick, escalate kino and then see her again and hook her in like that that's when you know you're doing something good and when you begin to have some of the most fun you'll have. It's all a game... Good prizes, prizes you get to choose but high risk -- with adrenaline buzzes so in a sense it's a reward in itself, it makes you feel good about yourself and pumped. You get a high from the chase.


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being scared or hesitate to initiate or pick up in front of others is inherently beta behavior.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:51 pm 
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No, I am not scared of KINO or rejection. But KINO is my worst part that's for sure. Yeah, I do light touches on arms, shoulders, but I can't image how you transition from that to sexual kino...


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No, I am not scared of KINO or rejection. But KINO is my worst part that's for sure. Yeah, I do light touches on arms, shoulders, but I can't image how you transition from that to sexual kino...
Top of shoulder -> Back of shoulder -> Behind her neck gently -> Small of her back leaving your hand there when engaged in conversation. Getting sexual.

If someone else gets involved i'll go for the small of her back. It puts off would be cock-blockers and if you do things right up until this point she won't mind so if it's a friend of hers they'll think she's okay.


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No, I am not scared of KINO or rejection. But KINO is my worst part that's for sure. Yeah, I do light touches on arms, shoulders, but I can't image how you transition from that to sexual kino...
It's really not that hard.

Don’t be sexual at first! I repeat don’t be sexual. Start neutral and step by step increase the intimacy of your touch. That way you won’t set off any alarm bells. Hey, and if any bells do set off, no problem. Just stop and try again later.

I like to start with the fingers, or hands, that way it leaves the idea in her head, she is touching you BACK.

Just keep slightly pushing the envelope until she’s ready for that next step. Pull away first. But it’s okay if she says no or pulls, brushes you off. Stop and try again. Move your hand from touching arm to touching her shoulder to touching the small of her back.

Start playfully, like your high five-ing a buddy, and progress from there.

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Kino is probably the most important thing you will ever learn. Practice it with every single person you can. I don't care if it's in front of her friends or her dad.
Go and do that shit.

Sexual kino doesn't mean grabbing her ass btw , much like sexting doesn't mean "I wanna go so deep inside I'd just leave the nuts hanging out."
Also talking dirty isn't what you see in porn.

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Do you KINO in front of other people? Even if it is her friends? If yes, how do you handle ASD?
Let's talk about it. In my opinion that its hard to KINO without isolation due to ASD.
You're over thinking it dude... Yes. It's perfectly fine to touch a girl infront of her friends.... Yes. It's okay to escalate your touch infront of her friends. HOWEVER, don't be some creepy rapist. Make sure the girl is reacting positively to it.

Just like anything... it takes practice.


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Do you KINO in front of other people? Even if it is her friends? If yes, how do you handle ASD?
Let's talk about it. In my opinion that its hard to KINO without isolation due to ASD.
Escalate kino right in front of her friends but make a point to make it a secret. Like grabbing her ass when know ones looking and doing thinks that both if you know are secret. She will like the excitement and be able to respond positively without fear that her friends will judge her


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No, I am not scared of KINO or rejection. But KINO is my worst part that's for sure. Yeah, I do light touches on arms, shoulders, but I can't image how you transition from that to sexual kino...
Top of shoulder -> Back of shoulder -> Behind her neck gently -> Small of her back leaving your hand there when engaged in conversation. Getting sexual.

If someone else gets involved i'll go for the small of her back. It puts off would be cock-blockers and if you do things right up until this point she won't mind so if it's a friend of hers they'll think she's okay.
How fast you want to be getting sexual touches from the moment you open the set?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:15 am 
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Depends on the setting. You're not gonna get sexual in a grocery store as fast as you would in a club.

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Kino, is a MUST DO!

You can talk a good game and have great body language, but without kino, you ain't getting laid Bro.

Using Kino does not mean dive in and grab the 'goods'. Kino simply “Physical escalation.”

If you’re already established yourself as the type of friendly guy that touches everyone naturally already, it’s no big deal to touch a woman you've just met. It’s natural. There’s nothing wrong with giving a quick touch on the arm or hand, giving a handshake or high five to ANYONE you've just met. In fact, it makes things a lot more lively and fun if you do.

In fact it will likely increase DHV among her friends.


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The above can work, but be careful. Being affectionate with everyone can case THREE problems:

1. You can be seen as a "very friendly guy"
2. It will cause you to have to do more to show genuine interest towards any one particular girl because they will assume you're just a friendly guy and you're like that to everyone.
3. You having to do more with a particular girl to show her that she's the one could put you in the friendzone (while you treating the one you like no differently from the rest in her mind will make her assume you aren't interested).
4. They will think you are a player (which could either help or backfire).

I learned a lot of KINO stuff and thought I was getting somewhere, only to discover that it confused a bunch of girls (or people in general). Some thought I was a player. Some thought I was just "a very friendly dude" (which isn't necessarily good). Some girls were naturally affectionate because of their culture, so the bar for coming across as "flirty / sexual" was much higher than normal and the regular touching (even borderline to making out) all didn't mean anything. Then, of course, when you are affectionate with everyone, you must do more than you already do with any woman you're actually trying to get or else she will just assume she's nothing more to you than anyone else. Having to do this could b both good or bad....


I'm not saying KINO is bad. It's far, FAR far better than doing no touching at all. I'm just showing you some things to consider and be careful of while KINO'ing. It's not just as simple as learning to touch everyone, like I thought it was before I mastered the art of it. It's ok to overdo it in practice, but once you feel you've gotten it down, ease off and slow down a bit and save it mainly for the girls that really matter (especially if you're in a setting where you and a bunch of the same girls frequently occupy). Once word gets around that you treat everyone the same, yo become seen as the player or the very friendly guy (or sometimes someone who MIGHT be gay).


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Me, I just get physical within the first minute or so of meeting. Literally. I'm no expert or anything, though. I just, somehow, figured out a way to do this and make it work.


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