This post may be a bit long but it may also help some people learn new tricks. I found it very helpful.

Basically, I asked 4 girls (Who were my friends/ex), exactly HOW they would like to be approached.

Their summary is they want guys to ask them politely, like:
“Excuse me”,
“Introduce yourself”
“Do you have couple minutes to talk?” or “I can see that you’re a little busy but do you have few minutes to talk?”
“I just noticed you here and I wanted to come over here and meet you because… (See Tips)”
“Start Conversation”

Closing:
“I’d like to get to know you more, possibly over lunch or dinner. Do you text?”

Their Tips:
1. Don’t just compliment their looks. Notice other small things like, if their doing homework in college, compliment their intelligence. They’re tired of hearing shit like “Oh you’re very cute”. They do not want you to meet them just based on their looks.

2. The guys must be POLITE, confident, don’t beat around the bush, and no stupid lines like “What if we’re meant to be?”. If a girl says No, don’t put her on the spot and keep asking her for number. Just give her yours and say something like “I’ll just give you my and you can text me later”. Respect HER.

3. Girls can detect when you’re trying to PICK them up, vs. actually interested in getting to know them. If you use stupid ass lines like “Let’s take a chance in a lifetime” or “This is like destiny”, they know you’re just trying to pick up. Just be straight forward.

4. 1 of them said to make it sound friendly. Like “I’d like to get to know you more over dinner as FRIENDS”. She said, it doesn’t mean she’s going to friend zone you, it just means you’re not putting a pressure on her and she will respect it.

5. They can DETECT when guys are just trying to pickup, because they all want ONE thing. Show them genuinely that you are interested and there is a higher chance they will accept you.

6. You have to talk intelligently. Not like “You, Stop! You’re very cute”, trying to seduce them in every sentence or even make lot of funny/sexual jokes, and etc. Instead just stop them with “Excuse me”. They must carry on an intelligent conversation too and show sense of humor.
7. If you’re rude in anyway, it’s an automatic goodbye.

**** This has helped me because I’ve learned what some girls want. However, I have NOT a single idea if we should be doing what they want or this is the right way.

First of all, I really don’t think girls KNOW what they want. They all say they want nice guys but apparently not according to their relationship status.

This did make me question if SimplePickup/RSD methods are the correct way because they seem to be doing exactly the opposite of what these girls are saying. These girls are 8 – 10’s (hotness). To me at least.

SP/RSD’s methods are more aggressive, pickups for getting laid, not very polite, persistent, etc…
So, I would honestly like to know. What do you guys think about this topic? Are the girls right or wrong? Should I stick to SP/RSD advice? I would like to have a long discussion about this topic because it seems like most of us are doing kind of opposite of what these girls want.

Thanks for the help and looking forward to hearing from you guys.

P.S. This is daygame. I know to be more aggressive on nightgame.

You yourself said that women always say they want to meet a nice guy, yet you are still listening to the advice that they gave you on how to approach them.

I know guys on here that would scream at you for mentioning the first part of the quote, Pretty much the top part of the quote lowers your value straight away. You might as well just go upto a girl and say "Excuse me miss can I lick your boots please?"
I'm personally a very polite person, but am pretty sure women don't want a push over, they're attracted to confidence, and yea approaching them takes balls specially in the game, but is it really enough to show a higher value for what you are about to say to them?

PuA's use more aggressive openers because it shows dominance, it shows women that we are real men we don't need to excuse ourselves to talk to them, were telling and giving the impression to a women that we know how to handle ourselves and that we are in control of the situation.

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I disagree with every point the girls made and would recommend sticking to RSD's advice, it's the best I've seen in recent years.

The girls you asked aren't lying to you, they just don't realise what they're actually attracted to. They also seem to be listing qualities that would become more significant in later relationships as opposed to what they will be initially attracted to.

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This post is proof you should never get dating advice from girls.

I dare you to follow their advice, and watch yourself get friendzoned by every girl you meet.

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Personally I don't like RSD because they ALL are complete and utter clones of Owen / Tyler D.

The guys at SP have different styles , they don't copy each other and have extremely good infield videos.

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That is exactly what I was thinking... Girls say they want something but are attracted to exactly the opposite.

Since those girls were around 22 - 25, I was in the mindset that they were tired of all those lines and just want the guys to be polite. They did say regular approach might work on younger girls though.

I guess I'll stick with SP/RSD methods for now and maybe add few things from the girls method to my routine. I do like few things from it though, like don't beat around the bush, compliment MORE than just their looks (I really do feel like they are tired of that).

lol what

Anyways, all this is bullshit. Only number 1 is partially correct i guess.

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I do know 1 thing though, bitches they come they go

Girls like guys to be polite and sweet later on.

Not at first.