PUAs say to be outgoing and talkative. However, especially in younger guys, isn't outgoing behaviour only reserved to persons already in one's social circle and not those beyond it? PUAs say that, rightfully, an alpha male is a people's man, but let's face it most younger guys in a room and room of strangers wouldn't even strike a conversation, thus defeating the people's man attitude.

It all comes down to your personal intent. If you have a strong will and desire to be that man, then your focus will be to strike up a conversation. Young men may know that they should do this and should do that but they lack the will to carry out what they really want to do. I feel like everyone has the ability to be free and become one with one another. It just takes a certain push and a certain desire to practice every day and reach out to people. The more they practice, the easier it is to be the man. That is why a lot of people in pickup really get discouraged. Their focus is weak because their will is weak. They focus too much on the wrong things. Hesitation kills intent.

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I think that's the whole point of the beginning of PUA. Not doing exactly what you described but meeting new people, either through sheer cold approach or expanding your social connections. You are failing to appreciate that this forum as well as others such as RSD nation, is full of success stories of guys doing exactly what you described seeing a cute girl striking conversation, escalating and sleeping with her.

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Most PUA's have no clue what they are talking about.

There is no requirement to be outgoing and talkative.

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Not necessarily be uber extroverted, but there is a 'requirement' to meet and seduce new women. Its in the job title.

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I think it depends what you mean by outgoing and talkative. I'm not a loud person, even in groups of quite close friends I can be the quietest person there. It's only really with perhaps my best 5 or 6 friends that I would say I'm talkative.

However, in order to attract women you have to allow them to see some element of your personality (or the "pick up" personality you want to portray whilst chatting to them). So you have to be outgoing to the extent that you're not afraid to talk to girls and are able to participate in a conversation. That alone can be seen as outgoing by quite a lot of people who would never have a proper conversation with anyone outside of their most immediate friends.

But I would agree that even if you're talking to a girl, you don't need to be the high energy bubbly joker type of outgoing, it's all just about having enough confidence to put your own personality forward.

This is a lot like the entrepreneurial mindset. You've heard the point made many times -- "It's not that hard to start a business, it's just that most people are afraid to try." Or something a long those lines.

This is true with women. Is it difficult to randomly approach a 9+ girl, escalate and sleep with her? Of course it is. It's difficult even for the greatest PUA's in the world. They fail more than they succeed. But that's what makes them great.

While it is a "risk" to start a business, or to talk to a hot girl, the cold hard truth is it's not as difficult as generally thought. It's just that 95 percent of the population will never have the balls to try.

For a book that gives a good summary of this mentality, check out the 4-Hour Workweek by Tim Ferriss. Really helps reframe your view of the world. (Yes, I'm sure many people on here have already read it 10x!)

Your topic doesn't fit your question. To answer your posted question; No. Being out-going is creating social circles. It has little to do with your existing social circle in my opinion.

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