Really !?
They are just mad, the vast majority are completely bat shit bonkers. Last night i had my best mates girlfriend try it on with me for out the whole night on his birthday, taking in mind that he is completely psychotic and drunk, but this didn't stop her. I had another friend's gf try to mind fuck me the whole night by basically acting mentally ill, i am talking clock work orange kind of shit here. Only to find out, when i told him how she was acting, that they have an "open relationship".

On top of this they are just fucking stupid, they can't see a good thing when its right there, another spanish chick i have been gaming, literally spot on perfect i have been gaming her, yet she has now just backed away for no apparent reason.

In the grand scheme of things i don't do badly with women, i can smoothly get what i want, but its too stressful now the dating game is all about mind games, and i swear they are like sociopaths, too many flakes, like wtf, why should the way you ask them out make an impact on the conclusion.

I know we are all talking about hardwired biological responses here and it runs deeper, but it annoys me that social conventions and being told from a young age by feminist teachers in school and nice guy movies, haven't prepared us for the "game" at all.

But i say fuck it, i don't want the burden of being a top pua, friends who are top PUA always seem to end up having stalker girlfriends and nutty bitches.

apologies for the rant, it was a bad night.

I feel quite famillair at this thought. Only difference is that till this very day I never recovered from the "ladies choose the niceguys" mindset, Romantically incorrect lovesongs and Hollywood videos...

I always ask myself the question why this has to be so damn complicated. Why if we are teached that if you like someone you tell her does it work the complete opposite way once you do it?
Exactly what I'm thinking. All these correct ways of doing things, watching the tiniest details, having to act perfectly and make one mistake and BAM it's over. I have been studying PUA for like about 4 years now and it makes myself more confident. But nevertheless I still suck at the actual point.

Maybe I should turn nethersexual...

You guys are missing the point. PUA end-game is not about getting women , it's about become the best person you can be from all standpoints. It's about self-improvement and facing your fears. Routines and techniques are just tools with which you can build your foundations.


You focus on the women too much , when you should be focusing on yourselves. You think women are psychos ? What ? You seriously think men are not equally as fucked up ?

People are stupid. The vast majority of them. Not just women , but people. Get used to that.

Learn to enjoy yourselves.
You seriously think the way you ask them out should have no impact ?
Imagine going to a car dealership. You got 2 dealers.

First one is all:"Yeah...uhm , this car ...it's kinda cool I guess. I mean , you could try it out and stuff ,I don't really have much to say about it. Nice sound system , it's pretty average and not that exciting."

Second: "Hey man , you're gonna love this car. Take a look at it. 2 doors , kickass sound system - you're literally gonna stop going to clubs and sit in your car all day listening to music - , and look at that design. It looks so freakin badass. I'm telling you , driving this thing will make you feel like a king."


So..who sold it better ? which 'way' had the better 'impact on your conclusion' ?

Think about it.

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You get me thinking. Thanks for the refreshing message, I like the comparison!
I guess I'll just have to organize my mind. Putting material, experiences and interpretations in their correct order, so to speak.

Well the obvious question is "Are you ready to treat her like the prize?" If "no" then she's reading through all YOUR bullshit!

Do you want to commit to her, support her, have a family, treat her like a queen.

Maybe the women are acting bonkers because you lack integrity? Maybe they just want to just fuck you without anything in return?

It's a woman's job to attract and resist until they find a man who's willing to put up with their bullshit and treat them as the prize. They sound like they are doing a fine job!

No offense intended. I get the game you are playing, but do you get the game you are playing?

Do you understand HER game and what she wants?

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Caring too much for a girl and believing in her purity is what brought me here in the first place. Forgive me but I'm a bit confused. Isn't treating her like a queen something only niceguys would do? Because on my experience they cast you away on this behaviour.