So I've read "the game" , "art of seduction" etc. I've been using some techniques and have begun to get over the anxiety of introducing myself. For some reason, everything seems decent when we first meet, but then I never get any other IOI's and the women kind of freeze me out. I've also been posting on POF, and the only chicks that want to meet me are nasty heifers. I message good looking women and never get a response from them. So I'm introducing myself to all these women, both online and in person, but I can never get them to bite. The few chicks I've hooked up with have been pretty good looking, but I'm starting to lose confidence. Am I that ugly or what? I'm not the best looking guy in the world, but there's nothing awkward looking about me as far as I know. Am I missing something here? any advice or tips would greatly be appreciated.

cheers,

eleusis

c'mon, somebody has to have some experience with this!

We don't have enough information to reply with anything remotely helpful.

Age would probably be the most relevant.

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Perfect example:

I've been infatuated with this chick for at least a year, she's actually a model in Chicago and is getting ready to be sent all over the world. Tall and skinny, just how I like. Anyway, I've taken her out several times, been a perfect gentleman- almost like friend material. Anyway, at the end of the night last year when dropping her off we made out. But everytime after that, she would just give me a pity peck on the lips. This girl killed me, complete cat-string theory on me. I stopped calling her for 9 months, just got together with her last weekend. We went out with her friends and partied, had great conversation till 5 a.m.- we share the same favorite book: "crime and punishment". anyway, so when it's time to go to bed, she's like "you can sleep in my roommates bed" and got me some pillows and blankets. Her bed looked so fucking inviting! She knows I like her, what gives!? She seems so stoic and completely unaffected by me. How should this be approached? I'm 24 years old. Most the chicks I'm after are 20-25.

also, she never initiates contact. I always do, but she usually gives these terse responses, but never indicates that she wants me to piss off. I can't read her at all, I mean from her actions she seems utterly uninterested, but she doesn't give any direct indication. She's willing to hang out with me, though she flakes out a lot. This is one specific chick, but the pattern seems to be the same. I'm well educated, can participate and contribute to good conversations, although at times I may seem a bit withdrawn. IDK, any other pertinent info that would help, please let me know and I will answer promptly.

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Well , if she's a model she probably gets tons of attention. Girls like that are not used to initiate. They become accustomed to be initiated by others as it happens on a regular basis.


Anyway , do you escalate with these girls ? remember the importance of kino and transmission of a sexual vibe. I would assume that you're neglecting those things which ,as a consequence , frames you as the 'new friend' , instead of the 'new potential sexual partner'.

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yeah man, you're right on. I can't really kino this chick because I feel like it'd seem awkward to her. I mean if we were to sit down on a couch, she wouldn't sit close enough where like our legs touched as an IOI. It's crazy, because with other chicks I can kino no problem because I'll feel confident enough by how close they get to me. She seems to keep her distance, she is the epitome of a man killer. And yes, she gets lots of attention, I'd kill to meet some guy that's fucked her and figure out what the hell he did. I will try to find a non-awkward way to kino with her, but she's just weird and doesn't seem like the type who likes physical touch. She's so not a predictable, typical girl. I had 9 months of serenity, and now I'm back in her throes. Would it perhaps be good if I just acted like a friend, as if I wasn't really romantically interested anymore? Though if I freeze her out or stop texting her, I'll most likely never hear from her again.

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