Kiss the cockblock's ass



Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 34 guests
Post new topic Reply to topic   Board index » Get Into The Game: New Forum Members Start Here » PUA Lounge




Author Message
 Post subject: Kiss the cockblock's ass
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 1:33 pm 
Offline
Dedicated Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:17 pm
Posts: 595
Location: Holland
Hey all,

Yesterday at the night game I had to deal with a lot of female cockblocks (target's friends) trying to stop me from talking to the target. Since i've little experience with this I talked to an other guy I know. He said:

"In order to win over the cockblock, you gotta kiss her ass, and make her happy about you".

My question:
What do you guys to do this? Do you dance with the cockblock? Note: This is a club scene, so talking isn't easy!

_________________
The Learning Journal:
--> wallies-journal-vt141967.html


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:05 pm 
Offline
MPUA Forum Addict

Joined: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:02 am
Posts: 261
Website: http://www.youtube.com/SOULFIGHT
AOL: RedDeliciousSOUL
Location: New York City
I'm not gonna buy into the frame
I'll bark at her.

_________________
Image
Check out my blog: GDBCrew.com http://gdbcrew.com
Always down to sarge in NYC - Holla at me


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:12 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:55 pm
Posts: 1273
Kissing her ass is a good idea. You don't really have to go out of your way to do it, either. Make her laugh, listen to her stupid, shitty stories, and make her feel like you're the stereotypical "good guy" that we normally try to avoid. It's almost like you want to friend zone yourself as quickly as possible.

Why does this work? Because all women THINK they want to find a nice guy, so when their cockblock friends tell them that you're nice, that's a good thing. When it gets down to seducing the target herself, you can isolate her and revert back to your normal self. It's the best of both worlds.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:38 pm 
Offline
Dedicated Member
User avatar

Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:17 pm
Posts: 595
Location: Holland
Quote:
Kissing her ass is a good idea. You don't really have to go out of your way to do it, either. Make her laugh, listen to her stupid, shitty stories, and make her feel like you're the stereotypical "good guy" that we normally try to avoid. It's almost like you want to friend zone yourself as quickly as possible.

Why does this work? Because all women THINK they want to find a nice guy, so when their cockblock friends tell them that you're nice, that's a good thing. When it gets down to seducing the target herself, you can isolate her and revert back to your normal self. It's the best of both worlds.
Let me see if I understand what you're saying:

By approaching a bigger set of girls (at least 3 or more), you have chosen your target and after 1-2 mins you will find a girl who is less receptive of your presence. She doesn't look happy to see you and you notice this.

Then you turn away and ignore the target for a short moment. Start talking to the cockblock, give her compliments, tell a joke, use ESP like think of a number between 1-10 (and guess 7) or palm reading: "Hey did you know i can read palms? See this line? It indicates that you're an idiot to believe I can read palms :wink:.

And like I said, this most happens to me in a club scene. So perhaps dance with the cockblock?

Anyway, thanks for the advice.

_________________
The Learning Journal:
--> wallies-journal-vt141967.html


Top
   
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 3:51 pm 
Offline
The name of the mothefucking game
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:31 pm
Posts: 4210
Website: http://www.dancefloorseduction.com
Location: South Florida
Quote:
Hey all,

Yesterday at the night game I had to deal with a lot of female cockblocks (target's friends) trying to stop me from talking to the target. Since i've little experience with this I talked to an other guy I know. He said:

"In order to win over the cockblock, you gotta kiss her ass, and make her happy about you".

My question:
What do you guys to do this? Do you dance with the cockblock? Note: This is a club scene, so talking isn't easy!
No if you kiss ass, is gonna look like you are trying to hard... All you have to do is befriend her, involve her, no need to kiss ass, a good way to do this in a club setting is dancing minimally with the cockblocks... A lot of cockblocks are not really cockblocks they are getting sophisticated girl code signs(usually is a brief eye contact sign from target to cockblock), that the guys miss to identify, and then they blame it on the cockblock, but is the target that may not be interested.

_________________
Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a dancefloor/club environment, check out my blog and youtube channel:
http://www.dancefloorseduction.com

Dancefloor/Club game youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/dancefloorseduction


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:17 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader
User avatar

Joined: Fri Apr 08, 2011 11:55 pm
Posts: 1273
Quote:
Quote:
Kissing her ass is a good idea. You don't really have to go out of your way to do it, either. Make her laugh, listen to her stupid, shitty stories, and make her feel like you're the stereotypical "good guy" that we normally try to avoid. It's almost like you want to friend zone yourself as quickly as possible.

Why does this work? Because all women THINK they want to find a nice guy, so when their cockblock friends tell them that you're nice, that's a good thing. When it gets down to seducing the target herself, you can isolate her and revert back to your normal self. It's the best of both worlds.
Let me see if I understand what you're saying:

By approaching a bigger set of girls (at least 3 or more), you have chosen your target and after 1-2 mins you will find a girl who is less receptive of your presence. She doesn't look happy to see you and you notice this.

Then you turn away and ignore the target for a short moment. Start talking to the cockblock, give her compliments, tell a joke, use ESP like think of a number between 1-10 (and guess 7) or palm reading: "Hey did you know i can read palms? See this line? It indicates that you're an idiot to believe I can read palms :wink:.

And like I said, this most happens to me in a club scene. So perhaps dance with the cockblock?

Anyway, thanks for the advice.
You've got the right idea, but like I said, don't go out of your way to do this. Palm reading, ESP, and all that stuff is way too much work, and as skills360 said, it looks like you are trying way too hard. Your goal is simply to "disarm" the cockblocker. Tell her a joke, ask a few bullshit questions about her life like where she works, and establish yourself that way. No need to go over the top with anything, though.


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 7:49 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:38 pm
Posts: 1430
This is not a war strategy.

Being generally polite is key. You're not interested in them, you're interested in her. Include her friends if you have to and have general fluff-talk with them. Then focus mainly on the target.

If the 'cockblocks' continue being all over your ass and try to make you go away from the girl despite your politeness - simply tell them off.

"Listen, I don't know why you're so rude to me, but your friend will decide herself whether or not she wants to continue talking to me.'

Then turn back to your girl and continue talking - 'politely' shutting the cockblocks off.

_________________
Journal/Blog: journal-little-panda-vt135329.html


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:01 pm 
Offline
The name of the mothefucking game
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:31 pm
Posts: 4210
Website: http://www.dancefloorseduction.com
Location: South Florida
Quote:
This is not a war strategy.

Being generally polite is key. You're not interested in them, you're interested in her. Include her friends if you have to and have general fluff-talk with them. Then focus mainly on the target.

If the 'cockblocks' continue being all over your ass and try to make you go away from the girl despite your politeness - simply tell them off.

"Listen, I don't know why you're so rude to me, but your friend will decide herself whether or not she wants to continue talking to me.'

Then turn back to your girl and continue talking - 'politely' shutting the cockblocks off.

^ if you do what is boldface, won't work, cause you are risking being against the cockblock... And you will put the target on the spot... You need to win over the group...

_________________
Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a dancefloor/club environment, check out my blog and youtube channel:
http://www.dancefloorseduction.com

Dancefloor/Club game youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/dancefloorseduction


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:08 pm 
Offline
The name of the mothefucking game
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:31 pm
Posts: 4210
Website: http://www.dancefloorseduction.com
Location: South Florida
hey guys this is from the pump man, pretty good stuff:

Quote:
hit on the fatty/ugly first, then move to target after, ignore the target, escalate on the ugly, then pawn her and move to target, you will get better responses from the fattie, if a fattie is giving you problems but you have compliance from her, put your arm around her lower back and place your hand on her side, right above her hip touching her hip, right on her fat, as soon as your hand is resting there, she can feel that you can feel her fat, this will make her feel insecure, you will be giving her positive attention, while at the same time making her feel insecure since she knows you can feel her fatness, this will often change her tune into trying to impress you, instead of trying to cockblock you (that or she will move your hand cause she feels uncomfortable with you feeling and knowing she is fat, it just reminds her of her fatness), it is better to just suck it up and hit on the fatty, then keep switching interest from the target to the fatty back and fourth, two girls competing to win you over is better then one girl interested and another one cock blocking

when handling groups, you really got two choices, win the group, ignore the target, move to target after winning group, so the group co-operates with you, and guides your cock instead of blocking it

or

hyper focus on target, not a shred of attention to obstacles, lock your target in physically immediately so that the friend can't lock her in and move her (put your arms around her, or hug her, get close and physical), don't acknowledge they even exist to the point it is so awkward for them to even be around they just leave you be, be persistent and block them out with body language, if a girl starts causing trouble and you have the target locked in physically, first try to get your target to help you, if she won't go against her friend, just give out commands, such as,

-STOP COCK BLOCKING
-DON'T COCK BLOCK YOUR FRIEND
-THIS IS MY GIRL, GET YOUR OWN
-HEY!, WHAT ARE YOU DOING, NO TOUCHY

make sure these come off as intimidating and dominant, but after shouting or doing this, do something friendly to relieve the tension a bit, (make a joke or a light hearted comment after doing these so you don't seem like such a dick and it turns into something fun for the target, rather then something serious and demeaning to her friend you want her to think you are a dominant and intimidating confident guy, but you are just joking around and tooling her friend a bit)

-STOP COCK BLOCKING (god stop being such a good friend, protecting your friend from terrible scum bags like me)
-DON'T COCK BLOCK YOUR FRIEND (she is never going to find the love of her life if you ruin her wedding before it happens, you can be our flower girl)
-THIS IS MY GIRL GET YOUR OWN (there is a cute girl over there, go make some friends, you seem friendly and cool)
-HEY!, WHAT ARE YOU DOING, NO TOUCHY (you seem really affectionate but don't try to get her to cheat, we are getting married)

make sure the original commands, are said, loudly with dominance and authority as commands, (basically yell and scare her), then the take aways say them in a friendly nice guy tone that shows your just kidding, basically you want to scare her enough so she backs away and can't do shit, but at the same time show the target you are not serious and are just kidding around (you need confidence to pull this off well)

_________________
Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a dancefloor/club environment, check out my blog and youtube channel:
http://www.dancefloorseduction.com

Dancefloor/Club game youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/dancefloorseduction


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:10 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:38 pm
Posts: 1430
Quote:
Quote:
This is not a war strategy.

Being generally polite is key. You're not interested in them, you're interested in her. Include her friends if you have to and have general fluff-talk with them. Then focus mainly on the target.

If the 'cockblocks' continue being all over your ass and try to make you go away from the girl despite your politeness - simply tell them off.

"Listen, I don't know why you're so rude to me, but your friend will decide herself whether or not she wants to continue talking to me.'

Then turn back to your girl and continue talking - 'politely' shutting the cockblocks off.

^ if you do what is boldface, won't work, cause you are risking being against the cockblock... And you will put the target on the spot... You need to win over the group...
The target won't leave unless the cockblocks give the girl an ultimatum. Standing up for yourself for simply 'being social' can work more in your favor than it can against you. Sure, sometimes (if the girl is not into you at all) she will walk away right there and then - but a lot of the times the cockblock girls simply back down because they actually don't have legitimate arguments for making you go away.

You're in a social gathering.
You're being social.
You've just recently started talking to the girl, so there's no way you've started to 'annoy' anyone just yet.
You've been polite to everyone.

Surely, anybody has patience to wait a while under ^those circumstances and give you a window of opportunity.

If they absolutely try making you go away simply to 'protect' the girl under the ^above circumstances - they are being extremely rude under the non-threatening social conditions and are, arguably, mildly retarded.

_________________
Journal/Blog: journal-little-panda-vt135329.html


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 9:47 pm 
Offline
The name of the mothefucking game
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:31 pm
Posts: 4210
Website: http://www.dancefloorseduction.com
Location: South Florida
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
This is not a war strategy.

Being generally polite is key. You're not interested in them, you're interested in her. Include her friends if you have to and have general fluff-talk with them. Then focus mainly on the target.

If the 'cockblocks' continue being all over your ass and try to make you go away from the girl despite your politeness - simply tell them off.

"Listen, I don't know why you're so rude to me, but your friend will decide herself whether or not she wants to continue talking to me.'

Then turn back to your girl and continue talking - 'politely' shutting the cockblocks off.

^ if you do what is boldface, won't work, cause you are risking being against the cockblock... And you will put the target on the spot... You need to win over the group...
The target won't leave unless the cockblocks give the girl an ultimatum. Standing up for yourself for simply 'being social' can work more in your favor than it can against you. Sure, sometimes (if the girl is not into you at all) she will walk away right there and then - but a lot of the times the cockblock girls simply back down because they actually don't have legitimate arguments for making you go away.

You're in a social gathering.
You're being social.
You've just recently started talking to the girl, so there's no way you've started to 'annoy' anyone just yet.
You've been polite to everyone.

Surely, anybody has patience to wait a while under ^those circumstances and give you a window of opportunity.

If they absolutely try making you go away simply to 'protect' the girl under the ^above circumstances - they are being extremely rude under the non-threatening social conditions and are, arguably, mildly retarded.

^ well in this one we will disagree, women have a group mentality, they act as one, you need to befriend the cockblock, show that you are cool, no creepy guy, what pumpington wrote is the right way to do it. You win more flies with honey than with vinegar, you can still stand your ground by being sarcastic rude, then go back into friendly with jokes, like pumpingon illustrated. Another way is to lead and control the target to go against their friends for you to do this she has to really be into you... Sometimes is about reputation(social proof), i had a girl last night, that did not want to do stuff with me cause her female wing was there, and is the girl that has been pursuing me for a while, to the point she went there just to see me, uninvited.

_________________
Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a dancefloor/club environment, check out my blog and youtube channel:
http://www.dancefloorseduction.com

Dancefloor/Club game youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/dancefloorseduction


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 10:03 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:38 pm
Posts: 1430
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:

^ if you do what is boldface, won't work, cause you are risking being against the cockblock... And you will put the target on the spot... You need to win over the group...
The target won't leave unless the cockblocks give the girl an ultimatum. Standing up for yourself for simply 'being social' can work more in your favor than it can against you. Sure, sometimes (if the girl is not into you at all) she will walk away right there and then - but a lot of the times the cockblock girls simply back down because they actually don't have legitimate arguments for making you go away.

You're in a social gathering.
You're being social.
You've just recently started talking to the girl, so there's no way you've started to 'annoy' anyone just yet.
You've been polite to everyone.

Surely, anybody has patience to wait a while under ^those circumstances and give you a window of opportunity.

If they absolutely try making you go away simply to 'protect' the girl under the ^above circumstances - they are being extremely rude under the non-threatening social conditions and are, arguably, mildly retarded.

^ well in this one we will disagree, women have a group mentality, they act as one, you need to befriend the cockblock, show that you are cool, no creepy guy, what pumpington wrote is the right way to do it. You win more flies with honey than with vinegar, you can still stand your ground by being sarcastic rude, then go back into friendly with jokes, like pumpingon illustrated. Another way is to lead and control the target to go against their friends for you to do this she has to really be into you... Sometimes is about reputation(social proof), i had a girl last night, that did not want to do stuff with me cause her female wing was there, and is the girl that has been pursuing me for a while, to the point she went there just to see me, uninvited.
There's nothing wrong with befriending the obstacles if it doesn't drain too much time for you or leads you nowhere. In fact, it's even more beneficial doing so than doing it any other way.

However, if it comes to the point that the obstacles are completely non-responsive to your 'charm' and they continuously blow you off and act rude, I don't see the reason why you would attempt to 'kiss their ass', as the title states. This is the moment when I would simply tell them off . . . and not because I can't 'seduce their friend', but for being generally rude in a social situation.

I like an example Tyler Durden gave, where he will hug his target and yell at her obstacles.

'FUCK OFF. SHE'S MINE. GO AWAY'.

. . . Half-sarcastically, of course ;)

_________________
Journal/Blog: journal-little-panda-vt135329.html


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:36 am 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:18 pm
Posts: 2130
Website: http://www.thescienceofnaturalgame.com
I think that Little Panda is right under certain circumstances his line is perfect as long as he holds a confident frame.

Skills, we all have different personalities and how I talk is certainly not how you talk. My style is very different than most, I can say way harsher shit than most guys because of some of the charisma I have (as well as a contagious laugh). You have to take that into consideration when you say things like " if you do what is boldface, won't work, " We all are different and can thus make different shit work with ease. If you read the situation or girl right you may realize that she is just an annoying bitch tonight and you can just use it to your advantage to isolate which I have done before.

If you seen some of the things I've done with women I'm sure you'd say that wouldn't work. We all have different styles and personalities, and just because you can't do something doesn't mean another one of us couldn't with our personalities.

Peace and Love

Vic

_________________
Just another guy from back in the day.

Blogging again living life: http://www.Scienceofnaturalgame.com


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 2:43 pm 
Offline
The name of the mothefucking game
User avatar

Joined: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:31 pm
Posts: 4210
Website: http://www.dancefloorseduction.com
Location: South Florida
Quote:
I think that Little Panda is right under certain circumstances his line is perfect as long as he holds a confident frame.

Skills, we all have different personalities and how I talk is certainly not how you talk. My style is very different than most, I can say way harsher shit than most guys because of some of the charisma I have (as well as a contagious laugh). You have to take that into consideration when you say things like " if you do what is boldface, won't work, " We all are different and can thus make different shit work with ease. If you read the situation or girl right you may realize that she is just an annoying bitch tonight and you can just use it to your advantage to isolate which I have done before.

If you seen some of the things I've done with women I'm sure you'd say that wouldn't work. We all have different styles and personalities, and just because you can't do something doesn't mean another one of us couldn't with our personalities.

Peace and Love

Vic

poetic, anything can work(i wrote a post were i got killed, called everything works), but as i keep saying there are some things that have a higher probability of working than others, for example the reason stelar used to get into fights, is because based on many different people experiences, they could not see how was he was advising could work very well, does not mean that does not work, but may have low probability of success... If you go against the cockblock, vs befriending the cockblock, chances are that is better to befriend, if she is a pain in the ass, instead of being totally rude, you can be sarcastic rude, confident frame and stand your ground, after she momentarily gets scare, go back into funny/friendly, like what pumpington suggested, that would have a higher probability of success...


By the way, just like last minute resistance, you will not encounter that if the girl is aroused enough....

You will barely get cockblock, if the girl likes you enough, the friends know (by codes), unless she is really drunk (and if she is really drunk no cockblock defense may work)

_________________
Learn the proper way to maximize your results in a dancefloor/club environment, check out my blog and youtube channel:
http://www.dancefloorseduction.com

Dancefloor/Club game youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/dancefloorseduction


Top
   
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 3:51 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2007 1:18 pm
Posts: 2130
Website: http://www.thescienceofnaturalgame.com
Oh yeah, I go the befriending route no doubt but I was just saying that in the right circumstances his line may be better than befriending. Everything is situational with courtship. You must keep in mind I'm very exceptional at reading body language and so when I see things I can recognize when a woman is just being annoying or trying to cock block. If a girl is just being annoying because she is not getting the personal attention you can certainly use a version of Little Panda's line to isolate. I've done it a few times before.

Sex Addict and I were talking about cock blocks one day and honestly I don't have an issue because everyone in the group tends to like me. We were laughing because cock blocking isn't something we tend to deal with, he was also talking about how some guys within a coed group will even help set it up for him. I've had the same thing happen, a guy will think I'm a good guy and set it up inside the group.

Befriending is definitely my favorite route to go, the goal is to disarm the cock block before you actually get to the point of taking her friend home. That is in my experiences by far the most efficient route, but each situation changes what can and will work. I like Little Panda's line in certain circumstances but I tend to start out befriending the group.

Peace and Love

Vic

_________________
Just another guy from back in the day.

Blogging again living life: http://www.Scienceofnaturalgame.com


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 15 posts ] 

All times are UTC


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Can we be honest?

We want your email address. Let me send you the best seduction techniques ever devised... because they are really good.
close-link