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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 8:10 pm 
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Hey guys,


Not sure if this is the right section but I figured it was a general enough question so I thought I'd field it here.

Anyway, is being skinny a turn-off for women? When I say skinny, I mean bony. I'm about 5'10 and around 140lb, last time I checked anyway.

I have a decent personality and although I'm nowhere near an expert, I'd like to think that I know a thing or two about gaming. Yet nonetheless, girls never seem to express much interest in me, yet boneheads with big arms get girls all the time?

Is it expressing that I'm effeminate and not manly if I'm not proportioned right? I'm joining the gym this week and hoping to bulk up. I have no intention of being musclebound, I just want to be a normal size and toned. Do you think this will help cure my problem, or am I barking up the wrong tree?


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No.

It's really not. Unless you're anorexic.....

In any case um.....just have fun man.


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While you could stand to put on a few lbs it's not THAT bad. It's better to be skinny than overweight. Some girls actually like the tall and lanky look. But as long as you look healthy at least you should be fine.


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Seems I need to work on sharpening my PUA skills, then.

I just assumed that because the hottest girls always seem to have bigger boyfriends, and the only seriously skinny guys that seem to get hot girls are rock stars, haha!

Thanks anyways, chaps!


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Well you could go the gym route, but you could also go the hipster route, chicks love hipsters.


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Well you could go the gym route, but you could also go the hipster route, chicks love hipsters.
That tends to be the path I've followed, it's how I look at least.

I suppose I'm on the smallish size and my arms are literally bone-skinny, there's hardly any meat there at all. Perhaps just compared to the other guys I seem to be the runt of the litter or something like that.

Or perhaps I'm placing too much emphasis on it and blaming it when it's really my game that's at fault. I'm sure both could use a decent tuning anyway.


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Well you could go the gym route, but you could also go the hipster route, chicks love hipsters.
That tends to be the path I've followed, it's how I look at least.

I suppose I'm on the smallish size and my arms are literally bone-skinny, there's hardly any meat there at all. Perhaps just compared to the other guys I seem to be the runt of the litter or something like that.

Or perhaps I'm placing too much emphasis on it and blaming it when it's really my game that's at fault. I'm sure both could use a decent tuning anyway.
Work your inner-game.

I'm just over 5'10". Never worried about it.

I remember a lady I'd dated a while back who always dated guys like 6'3+. I asked her bluntly why me. Her answer was one of the single greatest compliments of my life. She said "Because when I'm with you, you always seem taller than they are."

Cool shit. Humbling yet makes you cocky at the same time...

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Generally yes, women always look for men that look like they can protect them. It's human instinct. But you can overcome that with the right tools, it's fairly easy to create a false sense of safely and protective in women.

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Generally yes, women always look for men that look like they can protect them. It's human instinct. But you can overcome that with the right tools, it's fairly easy to create a false sense of safely and protective in women.
Have you got any examples that I could take a look into and brush up?


Also, that's a damn cool story, Rodeo!


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If you are selfconscious about being skinny then working out will deffo help your inner game, and inner game is the basis of all game. So knock yourself out!

And I generally belive that no matter where on our PUA path we are we should do everything we can to look as good as we can. We don´t expect anything less from the girls we´re gaming, so that has as much to do with respect as it has with improving our game!


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This is all about percentages.

As most things in life, you'll have to maximize your attractiveness. Year after year, casinos make hundreds of millions on a mere 5% odds at the baccarat tables. Ecommerce stores make money on a mere 2% to 3% conversion rate from website visits. The best example of the guy who makes money from percentages is Warren Buffet. He consistently makes his money and other people's money earn an average of 27% year after year. That's roughly 3 sure hits versus 7 theoretical fails.

The same is true in pick up.

A certain percentage of women do like skinny guys. It's up to you to polish your skills so you can find out who these women are. In the meantime, your decision to bulk up in the gym is good because a higher percentage of women prefer muscular guys rather than skinny guys.

You can however immediately increase your sexual attractiveness with some of these things:
  • 1. Wear red. This will shoot up your attractiveness by at least 33%. If you're a 5 (non-fuckable) guy on women's rating scales, wearing red will immediately turn you into a 6.5 (fuckable) hunk. This is evolutionary biology at work. Wearing red has a science into it. Is this field tested? You bet.

    2. Increase the dilation of the pupils of your eyes. How do you go about this? When you hold eye contact with a girl and she pulls down her gaze, eyefuck her when she looks back up again. Imagine fucking her tits or pounding her pussy real hard. Is there a science into this? Here, read the abstract of this scientific paper, http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve ... 261?via=sd Is this field tested? You bet. With this, you'll only approach and open women who are unconsciously attracted to you and then increase their sexual attraction some more with your eyefuck routine.
Build your attractiveness one small percentage on top of the other and you'll get where you want to be. There are more attraction multipliers that you can do to get there. It's just that I don't have the whole day to explain them all to you, link the scientific journals backing these up and assure you that I have field tested each and everyone of them.

If you can look at results as, say, a 10% success rate instead of a 90% failure rate, then you're bound to succeed every step of the way and increase your success rate as you gain more experience and skills. :twisted:

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Well you could go the gym route, but you could also go the hipster route, chicks love hipsters.
That tends to be the path I've followed, it's how I look at least.

I suppose I'm on the smallish size and my arms are literally bone-skinny, there's hardly any meat there at all. Perhaps just compared to the other guys I seem to be the runt of the litter or something like that.

Or perhaps I'm placing too much emphasis on it and blaming it when it's really my game that's at fault. I'm sure both could use a decent tuning anyway.
Bulking up will definitely help your confidence and there is never anything wrong with self improvement. I am 5'7" and used to weigh a little over 190lbs. I made the choice to start working out and and dieting and now am about 166lbs(I have a larger frame for my size). I am still working toward losing more but I feel MUCH more confident and secure now that I am in better shape.


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I'm about 5'10 and around 140lb
ok #1, that is almost the perfect weight for that height so i have no clue what you are talking about, your BMI is great; the only reason you think your skinny is because you compare yourself to other dudes, do you want to be fat? overweight? get diabetes and put strain on your bones? if that's what you want then yes gain weight
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I just want to be a normal size and toned.
right there is your problem - just because the "normal" weight is 260 pounds doesn't mean thats a "healthy" weight, most people are WAY overweight so if you want to be normal then you should just eat ice cream everyday and play x-box 24/7 while not moving, trust me, you don't want to be "normal" with peoples obese problems today...

#2 I weigh the same and am taller than you (and don't think im anorexic or super skinny), sure I'm smaller but it's all muscle, and its funnier when I can beat fat people up just because they think they're bigger and pick a fight with me

Remember; "Average adult Americans are about one inch taller, but nearly a whopping 25 pounds heavier from 1960 to today" "In 1966, the average BMI for a 16-year-old boy was 21.3; in 2002, it was 24.1"
"average" does not mean "healthy" You are healthy, don't throw it away so you can think you look better

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I hate making generalization such as "girls generally prefer muscular guys over skinny guys."

It depends ON THE GIRL. YES. Being muscular is NOT a turn off, but it can be to a lot of women that don't like bobbleheads.

At the end of the day, looks is a PLUS. it's not a fucking do-all end all. And contrary to our gym-gurus here, you can still get BLOWN out.

In terms of a long-term relationship, yes. If you are muscular it helps. But you can be "muscular" and be a complete fucking wuss when it comes to 'protective' etc.

My friend is not muscular, but he is a black belt. Go up against him and you're asking to get your ass hit by a dumbell you work out with.

Lets not generalize stupid shit anymore. Being skinny is something that it sounds like YOU'RE not happy with. Be honest. You're asking that BECAUSE you feel insecure about it yourself.

We ALL do it. I myself wonder...do girls want a guy with thick luscious hair, or kind of short and styled hair? It doesn't FUCKING matter. It's a NUMBERS game with YOUR game. Your body HELPS with some women more than OTHER women. You can be judged much harshly on your hair with some women than your BODY.

Try to get the most muscular guy you know, and have him have bieber hair. Lets see where he lands. This is experimentation.

THE ONLY ONLY generalization one can make FOR SURE: is most girls are not into overweight men. Overweight meaning seriously out of control..flab everywhere. Thats it.


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I'm about 5'10 and around 140lb
ok #1, that is almost the perfect weight for that height so i have no clue what you are talking about, your BMI is great; the only reason you think your skinny is because you compare yourself to other dudes, do you want to be fat? overweight? get diabetes and put strain on your bones? if that's what you want then yes gain weight
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I just want to be a normal size and toned.
right there is your problem - just because the "normal" weight is 260 pounds doesn't mean thats a "healthy" weight, most people are WAY overweight so if you want to be normal then you should just eat ice cream everyday and play x-box 24/7 while not moving, trust me, you don't want to be "normal" with peoples obese problems today...

#2 I weigh the same and am taller than you (and don't think im anorexic or super skinny), sure I'm smaller but it's all muscle, and its funnier when I can beat fat people up just because they think they're bigger and pick a fight with me

Remember; "Average adult Americans are about one inch taller, but nearly a whopping 25 pounds heavier from 1960 to today" "In 1966, the average BMI for a 16-year-old boy was 21.3; in 2002, it was 24.1"
"average" does not mean "healthy" You are healthy, don't throw it away so you can think you look better
This. Although, BMI is an extremely poor indicator of how healthy your weight is. It doesnt take into account bone density, frame size, etc. BMI says I am overweight at 5'7" 166lbs but that is clearly not the case if you were to see me.


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