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Move on? She's clearly got issues you can't address without being her full time bf ( read carer).
I thought about doing that too..I'm a little bit confused :?

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Okay, I'm not saying that you did anything wrong, since she clearly has some deep issues. But there's some things I would've done differently. First of all, while closing in the car is usually the easiest and fastest way to fully close a girl, I don't think it's the right place if this girl has issues like this. It will just not feel right.

Personally, I would've accept her invitation to sleep with her. Once you're in bed with her, it's a totally different story. Girls will let their emotions go easier. I would've started by telling her how I think it's stupid that some girls don't want to have sex with guys just because they think they will get hurt or somewhat lose value and that it will never happen with me (comfort zone).. And that in my opinion, I think that those girls who thinks that men wants them just for sex are clearly not aware of what more they can give to a men. Anyways, you see my point... You slowly disarm every excuses she can drop.

Once this is done, I would just tell her that she had a rough that and that she needs to relax. Tell her to lay on her stomach and that you'll give her an amazing massage. After a while, she'll see that the massage would be much better if she didn't have her top/bra on and I would tell her to remove it. If she would give any form of resistance, just tell her to calm down, trust you and enjoy herself.

By the way, If you don't know how to give an amazing back massage, you should look it up. It will calm her down and arouse her. After a while, you tell her to slowly turn around, and arouse her by touching her stomach, her legs and near her vagina.

I'm running out of time, but basically, at that point, if you did everything right and had the good deep voice, she will be so calm it's like you hypnotized her. If she gives you any form of resistance, it will be unsure and with a really weak and small voice. You can just keep what you are doing and say: shhhhhhh, just enjoy yourself, calm down...

Once you fingered her, she should be horny and you've got yourself a done deal.

And if this doesn't work. Just stop wasting time go sleep.

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hey valentyn have u gotten a lay yet bc ive been reading the journal a lot but didnt know if u actually took one down bc i like a lot of what ur writing but idk if the lay is there


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Matt Great stuff buddy! But she didn't invite me in that day..she said that after this week I can sleep with her anytime I want at her house..I'm trying your advice next week 100%..what you wrote looks legit!

Aladdyn I have a Lay Report earlier in my journal I don't know where cause I have a lot of posts..I used to do Mystery Method when I got her in her hotel so that was a couple of weeks ago..now I'm in natural game

But anyway..1 time/week is not enough to have massive improvements in my opinion. Even though some people may agree that I'm improving a lot, I know I woud've been much stronger in I coud've gone at least 3 times each week! When I finsih college (in 1month and a half), I want to really push my limits like 4 times/week..you have to go out and take action

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KISS CLOSE + NUMBER CLOSE

This is great! 3 KC and 3 solid NC in 3 nights in a row! Damn it feels good when you put effort in something and results start popping out..but anyway..still have a lot to learn..this is how the night started

Aspect to work during the night: - Sexual Escalation
- Use 2 new qualification lines

First of all, I was trying to help T_Rex because he got in game again..but his approach anxiety got the best of him. It's normal we've all been there and I tried to encourage him but I was ending up stressing him out so after I opened 3 sets just to show him that it's not a big deal..I went on my own on this cute girl that was the friend of a girl I knew attending the place. One of these 3 approaches was a tall woman who was I don't know like 25 or more..and I went in with: "Hey I'm wondering..am I small or are you tall??" Haha lol she gave me some resistance but I was just unreactive as fuck..she lowered down her shield and we start talking pretty easy shit..4 months ago I woud've ejected the set after 5 sec but experience shows me that being unreactive is really fucking powerfull. You guys should definately train being unreactive to ANY amount of resistance

So I see this cute girl I'm calling her HB JIGLIPUFF (from Pokemon - I don't know how the hell to write the name) because her voice reminded of Jiglipuff (it's the pokemon that makes people sleep :lol: ) Immediately after she was comfortable with my presence I broke rapport with her teasing her about looking like a Pokemon and at the same time, doing Kino Escalation. I've been working on a concept called Cycle Focus and I started applying it..it worked fucking great. When I saw that she gave me some IOI's I immediately start qualification. And wow qualification saves your life when you have nothing else to say. She responded to all my questions without even asking why and I knew that the ball started to roll in my favor. Now I'm sexually escalating because this is what I'm focusing on during the night and suddenly I ask her to dance to build compliance and...sexually escalate. We go on the dancefloor, we grind but then she says she wants to buy some water. I take her by the hand and lead her through the crowd. I test for an IOM and I got it pretty quickly (indicator of mutual interest)..she hold my hand tight so a bell rang in my head: Permission to kiss. She buys her water we go on the dancefloor once again and I just look at her and pretty much kiss closed with 100% confidence. If you get an IOM it's over guys you just need to pull the trigger! To solidify my number I builded a great time bridge..the number didnt even look like a goal it was just a tool to see her next week which she agreed to go on a date with me. After I took her number I stayed and qualified 1 big hoop just to build even more comfort..I than said that I'm going to leave and I kiss her. After 3 sec I say: "Allright that's all you get for tonight..see you next week!" Which pretty much fliped the script which now means I'm the prize not her...great stuff and I cant wait to see this girl shes soo fuckable!

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Great FR bro, you clearly have your game down now. Honestly, I can easily say you have made the most improvement out of all the people I know who are gaming (in the same time frame). Great job, if only I was in montreal we would have a killer night, and I would finally see valentyn (I think I finally spelled ur name right ahha) in action.
Btw what is this circular focus you mentioned?

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Great FR bro, you clearly have your game down now. Honestly, I can easily say you have made the most improvement out of all the people I know who are gaming (in the same time frame). Great job, if only I was in montreal we would have a killer night, and I would finally see valentyn (I think I finally spelled ur name right ahha) in action.
Btw what is this circular focus you mentioned?
Thanks a lot man..but even though my game is pretty solid, I know I have a lot to learn. This doesn't adress to you because you're not using one particular method, but to all the guys out there. Stop learning methods..learn fundamentals. Basic concepts and fundamentals are way better to learn than methods, because they are the core of any man's game with whatever method he may use. Fundamentals are in each method and just by simply focusing on them..your results will come much faster than if you woud've focused on one particular method. Also..a lot of guys read wayyy too much! Stop fucking reading and go out!

Cycle Focus is a concept I've been working on for a while I will not describe it here because it is complicated and it's my own piece of material..I'm writing an e-book to natural game which I'm modyfing and constantly changing until I have A game and teach this stuff

Thanks again and hopefully we'll sarge one day! Peace man and good luck!

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TENMAGNET


Wow 2day I had the opportunity to meet one of the biggest PUA's in the community: Tenmagnet, an instructor from LoveSystems. It was great talking with him and his advice was really solid..he said that to make a friends with benefits relationship with a girl, you need to tell her that you're not there JUST for sex. So you say someting like: "You know I love being around you and I love you as a friend your so cool..but I also love how sexy you are most of the time" You're basically telegraphing that you're not looking just for sex because she's also fun to be around. He told me that after you say stuff like that, it will increase a lot your chances of getting a friends with benefits relationships and that most girls want that..it just that guys have this limiting belief that women don't want to have sex for fun. He also talked about inner game and changing your beliefs..great talking session. Well anyway..take care fuckers!! Be jealous! :twisted:

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hey man haven't read your journal in awhile but it seems like your doin great and have had a lot of improvement. one thing on the crazy hb pink your talking about when they resist don't let them know your mad or pissed, just stay calm and try again later. And in my experience whenever a girl says "were not going to have sex tonight" then brings you home ive had sex with her haha


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UPDATE


From now on, each wednsday or thursday, I'll be writing updates with my HB's. It helps me a lot to see where I am in my interaction with each one of them so here it goes

With HB Jigglipuff is going GREAT! The most solid of my closes..I set up a day 2 with her this saturday. I said to her that we're going to meet at the subway and go on an adventure 8) (Credit to The_Mack) I'm thinking about going skating with her..this is something original and actually really cool to do. I also understand much better dynamite theory (text game)..she's actually a short fuse and my text game is becoming stronger and stronger..like really solid! The reason is that I have a LOT of practice when 4 girls are into you and they text you almost everyday. HB Pink is a PSYCHO! Wow I'm removing this girl from my life as soon as possible! She told me she cries all the time and all because her boyfriend left her but they were together for only 4 months :shock: She texts me EVERY fucking DAY! Every 3 hours she wants to see me and I'm getting sick of this. I don't want drama and she's making my life miserable..fuck that. With my other 3 HB's it's going mediocre..one of them I'm still in it..but the other 2 I'm losing them due to some text game errors that I now learned from. So I have my options it feels good I'm not stressed and I'm enjoying life a lot..I don't even think about lay reports, kiss closes and shit. I enjoy living in abundance and I love having choices it's such a great feeling! I'm also training my buddy T_Rex..I'm trying to make my best to help him get the maximum of results in the shortest time possible because his potential is huge. A lot of gurus say that helping/teaching this to someone else early in your journey makes you improve in a lot of areas of your game. I'm doing this for my buddy but I'm curious to test this and see if it's true..so that's abut it..sarging night tomorrow + date this weekend 8)

I'm also starting to read SexGod Method by Daniel Rose! It seems everyone is telling me this book is gold! So anyway..Good luck in field guys!

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Members: Valentyn, T_Rex, Froggy, Wildguns & Swinths

Location: Au Rouge


PUSHING COMFORT ZONE

I realized that lately, I've been staying way too much in comfort. It became relatively easy for me to approach and get a kiss..I was feeling like flipping a coin, no effort what so ever. However, I get intimaded by girls who look older or who are more mature than me. I don't have any fear of interacting with girls my age, but when I see a hotter and more older girl, like 25+, I'm starting to feel really uncomfortable. And what coincidence, because Au Rouge was filled with girls looking much older than me. This field was for me, harder than the last fields that I have been and that literally woke me up that I still have a lot of work to do. I need to remove this thing from my head that mature women would not want to talk with me..each time I'm opening, 90% of time I get great responses and move forward but this belief always bothers me. I don't see myself as looking old, although the majority of girls give me at least 20-21 years old.. so I'm currently working on changing this "mindset"

We first meet at a cafe and when we sit down there's 3 hot girls that come sit down near us. After trying to convince the guys to open, I got fed up and opened with a situational opener. They hooked really easily and we shoud've asked them to bounce with us at the club. Next time, I'll do that..it would've been awesome they were giving many IOI's and were pretty good looking

So we get in the club, and there's a LOTTT of people. The place is big and it's crowded as fuck! I see that people in general are older people and I started feeling uncomfortable, but it's good that means an opportunity to grow. I haven't felt this feeling for quite a while so at first I did some warm-up sets..I was even pecking in some of my first ones and I usually never peck but finally I got in the zone. I made more than 15 approaches. I did so many stuff that I have trouble remembering so here's some sets I did

Set: There's one girl that steps on my foot. I look at her and say: "I'm tired of girls always stepping on guys feet in clubs". She responds and I immediately put myself phisically between her and a guy and girl that were with her just to block them out. They left so it was good. I said to her that she has beautifull eyes and I asked her if I could touch them. She laughed and said that's it's dangerous because she could have an infection or something so I asked her if she were a doctor. I gave her a high five and I started escalating it was going pretty well but her two friends suddenly come and my target looks at me than she looks at them..of course a girl will go with their friends so they literally took her away from me but anyway..

Set: There's this mixed set, 1 guy - 2 girls. I gave my self as a challenge to approach at least 2 mixed sets because it's one of my current sticking points. I approached the guy and said: "Hey man are you having fun?" He said yeah but I don't know what to say to guys with girls in a set, after I said the first line. So I froze a little bit and I repeteaded the same line lol the guy was like wtf yes I'm having fun..I ejected not knowing what to say..so I have to work on those mixed sets..however, I did another one where it went great! I isolated one of the girls (1 guy - 2 girls) and she started giving IOI's..but once again when her friends came back our conversation stopped because they started talking to her. Finally they walk off..I say to her that we'll talk later

Set: I say "Hi, how are you" to a HB 7.5. However, this AMOG comes in and touches me a little bit so I look at him weird implying that I'm not gay. He backs off and tries to qualify himself that he's not gay lol so it was good my target saw that. However, the guy wanted to block me and T_Rex spot it..he started handling the obstacle really well so I got some isolation with my target. It was going really great she started to give lots of IOI's but I forgot to qualify!! Damn it! I never forget to qualify but because I was feeling a little bit more uncomfortable, I neglected qualification..but I did some pretty good stuff I could've NC relatively easy..the only thing that backed me down is that she was looking wayy older than me. I didn't want to lie when she was going to ask me my age so I ejected just using that girl to gain skill

I can't remember my other sets, I did way too may stuff..and this is the first time I said a joke to one girl lol. I said: "Do you know why blondes can't call 911?" She's like: "No, why?" and I respond: "Because they can't find the 11 on the phone" :lol: She laughed it was pretty good

So basically 95% of all my sets I thought only to increase my skill. I didn't thought about closing, although I wanted to have at least a NC just because lately I've been in a killing spree lol. One thing I realized is that I escalate much better than before..I'm touching a girl almost each 5 sec..and they like it so it means I'm doing it pretty well. We leaved pretty early..I wanted to stay at least 30min more because I felt like I could've done more but T_Rex wanted to leave and we both came in the same car so we leaved. Already that I'm going only 1 time/week, I woud've loved to stay and continue to push myself there were some pretty tough sets man in this club..fucking 4 - 5 sets, huge sets, with hot girls so it's pretty intimidating so I'm definately going there again you can gain so much experience from a field like this one. Anyway, I have a date today so I can't wait to see this girl! Take care guys and good luck!

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DAY 2 - HB JIGGLIPUFF


Goddamit we were supposed to fuck in her car. Cool story and I learned a few things. First of all..she comes and picks me up..she sees me and waves at me looking really happy. Now we go to this chocolate "restaurant" and we ate something..however we forgot where she parked her car. So I said to her that we should go on an adventure to find it and we started searching everywhere (the car was farrr away)..it took us like 2hours to find it. During this walking time I did something different than what I did with HB Pink. I was not holding her hand the entire time, but I was doing a lot of push pulls..telling her I like her but pushing away..stuff like that. At a certain point I just stopped on the street and she said: "what?" I went to her and said that shes so adorable and small, I gave her a big hug and than I kissed her. She actually jumped on me as soon as I leaned in so I took that as an indicator of her really wanting me. Long story short, we get to the car and she drives me to my house. In front of my house I say: "Hey stay again 2 min don't worry I have to get going"

She parks the car near my house...on a street where cars are passing by. And this is what happened afterwards. We're in the front seat and she keeps talking and talking. So I looked at her and said: "Hey..shut up...come over here" I kissed her and I started escalating. Now I'm testing for bad responses but I got none and she was enjoying it so I took her and make her sit on my lap. I start to arouse her as fuck..she was so wet that I felt her wetness through her jeans :shock: Things are going perfect and she just slams my chair backwards so she can climb on top. At this point she was half naked however...cars started passing by near us..and one car was my mother's!! :shock: :lol: I'm like: FUCKKK I don't think she saw me but man haha funny shit! So we were almost there but she said there were cars passing by and that we should stop. I said: "You know what? Let's stop" I looked at her and kept kissing even more. She enjoyed that lol so it got to a certain point where we decided to stop..police was passing by and we didn't want to get in trouble. After however she told me that I could pick her up next sunday (she goes to new york thursday to sunday) and that we can sleep together then. So yeah I got myself a nice one here. The thing here is that I played so solid game in our first meeting at the club, that I didn't have LMR at all..I remember qualyfing a LOT to this girl so maybe she felt this connection that I'm not just in it for the sex. However, I'm glad LMR hasn't showed up!

Comfort Level without getting LMR: approximately 5h30 minutes

There's also a little line I'm throwing all the time with my closes. If you say it by really meaning it and with the right attitude..for me it has great results! So when you kiss just stop and look at her. She's going to say: "what?" You say: "Damn..you have no idea how many girls are jealous of you right now...seriously..you can get killed with this stuff watch out..you've been warned" Than make out with her afterwards. It's done powerfull results for me with each girl I used this so you can try it out!

Man it's fucking 2 AM..peace out! Hope my mother doesn't greet me with a grin next morning lol

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i never usually read much, but ive read loads of your posts now in one go as well, this is inspirational tbh, and when i finish uni in a few weeks, im gonna start doing this exactly the same, cheers broseph


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Hey Valentyn, this is a big diary ! Thanks for taking the time of sharing with the members.

Since the beginning of this journey (in August it seems), with how many girls have you slept with ?


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So we were almost there but she said there were cars passing by and that we should stop. I said: "You know what? Let's stop" I looked at her and kept kissing even more. She enjoyed that lol so it got to a certain point where we decided to stop..police was passing by and we didn't want to get in trouble. After however she told me that I could pick her up next sunday (she goes to new york thursday to sunday) and that we can sleep together then. So yeah I got myself a nice one here. The thing here is that I played so solid game in our first meeting at the club, that I didn't have LMR at all..I remember qualyfing a LOT to this girl so maybe she felt this connection that I'm not just in it for the sex. However, I'm glad LMR hasn't showed up!

Comfort Level without getting LMR: approximately 5h30 minutes

So we were almost there but she said there were cars passing by and that we should stop.

This.

Is LMR.

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