Pirate Chest Theory Explained



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:49 am 
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The value-driven branch of pickup teaches us that it's important to demonstrate your social value to women, usually in the form of intriguing, entertaining stories that are "spiked" with facts about yourself and your lifestyle people are likely to find attractive. Traditional DHVs such as mentioning your stripper ex-girlfriend, the fact that you used to be in a band or the time you pushed your friend out of the way of a speeding car all fall under this category of conversation.

The theory put forth by Mystery and others in that sect of the community implies that one should present their "best" and most high-value story or stories early on, and that doing so will build attraction with one's target.

I disagree enthusiastically with this theory on attraction-building, but that's a topic not within the purview of this thread. Instead, I would like to address the notion that you should throw out your best DHV spikes first. Put plainly: I think it's bullshit.

I think every man probably has something that he intrinsically knows women will like about him. Maybe he's really talented at a musical instrument; maybe he's like me and is a hopeless romantic at heart. Whatever it is, I propose that this facet of their personality--their "treasure," if you will-- becomes a more powerful seduction tool the longer it goes without being mentioned or having attention drawn to it. This is the fundamental basis of what jsquared and I have come to call Pirate Chest Theory (PCT).

How does it work?

PCT doesn't come into play until after a solid amount of attraction has already been established, so one first has to build that attraction. If you're like me, that means creating a fun, playful vibe and projecting a sexual state. If you're an M3 guy, it means ignoring your target while displaying value to her friends. Whatever method for attraction-building works best for you personally, do it--just don't expose your Treasure.

The idea here is to paint a picture for her that is attractive but lacking whatever one component of your personality or lifestyle that you think makes you really great. That exterior facade, then, represents the outside of a pirate chest--not all that interesting on its own, but brimming with potential and mystery that is irresistably sexy.

The key is to make her believe that's all there is and close the deal on that alone, then throw the chest open and show her what she's won.

If your "treasure" is a talent of some kind, it's best to let it be brought up naturally. Maybe she looks at your Facebook and sees that you are the CEO of a multi-million dollar company. Perhaps she notices the quantum physics books on your bookshelf and demands to see your intellectual side. Maybe a friend insists you perform jazz flute for the crowd at his restaurant. Whatever :)

If it's a personality trait like mine, you're probably going to have to show her on your own once you decide she is worthy of seeing it. Fortunately, the ability to present yourself attractively is covered in depth elsewhere on this forum and every other seduction website on the internet--there's no need to go into it here.

Dude, can you give us an example already?

The best example I can give you is a basic overview of how I put this theory into practice. Some parts of this next section may not be useful to you at all, since they're very specific to my game, which is different than the standard practiced in the community to say the least, but hopefully it will give you some ideas for how to best implement this in your own life.

For my own part, I put PCT into practice by displaying only a portion of my personality in the beginning stages of a relationship--exclusive, fuck buddy, or otherwise. When a woman first meets me, she will in all likelihood enjoy my company but probably underestimate me as little more than a superficial playboy who creates a fun, seductive vibe she can't help but be drawn into. She may even doubt my depth as a person and be apprehensive about advancing our interaction beyond anything other than a one-night stand. That's fine, and ultimately makes exposing my "treasure" that much more effective.

Eventually, we will sleep together and I will invite her on a totally non-sexual day 2 (this is my standard operating proceedure--I do it to demonstrate that I am interested in her for more than just her body). The entire time, I am screening her to see if she has the emotional maturity and cognitive fortitude to appreciate the parts of my personality I have thus far avoided drawing attention to.

Assuming I deem her fit to see them, I will then show her the more substantially intelligent and romantic side of myself that she, by this point, is probably doubting exists inside of me. Like finding a $100 bill underneath the couch cushion, this unexpected surprise will not only spike her buying temperature in the present but ultimately make her that much more wildly devoted to me should I decide to make our relationship exclusive. If she liked me because of the vibe I created with her before, she'll love me for the fantastic aspects of my personality that I revealed to her cooly and without pretention. She has the high-value guy she's always dreamed of and I have the freedom to take the relationship in whatever direction I want to. Everybody wins :D

Basic overview for everybody who skipped to the bottom of the thread

1) Build attraction without displaying the most "high value" parts of your personality
2) Close
3) Reveal the parts of yourself or your lifestyle you left out
4) Use the emotional capital from this to take the relationship wherever you want

Questions, comments, suggestions and hate-speak are all welcome! Post below :)

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Special thanks to 870 for finally writing this :)

Female Application

This "theory" works fantastically for women. I want you guys to imagine meeting a girl in a club. You party with her, dance, drink, and have a good time. All you know is that shes fun. You are already attracted to her. You set up a Day 2 and go hang out. The next thing you know your sitting with a perfect 10 who is incredibly intellectual and has a outstanding sense of reality. At this point you are truly hooked. Game, set match 8)

This concept is the simple reason why men and women "fall" for one another. The element of *Mystery* that truly dazzles each other. Like the sexy party girl who is actually an intelligent intellectual......or the quintessential "badass" who is actually a deeply caring individual. The idea that you as a person are vast and complex; not complicated. Our personalities are like machines, a complex sum of many parts that when broken down is actually very simple. When you meet a girl all you need to do right away is show her that you are a confident centered male. You seem a simple thing at first. Then you show her a glimpse of whats underneath and you sweep her off her feet.

Women like you for the initial passive quality of confidence and humor. She will love you for the rest.


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870, i love you.


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What if your a person with lots of great things about you, would you suggest holding more than one thing back?
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The next thing you know your sitting with a perfect 10 who is incredibly intellectual and has a outstanding sense of reality. At this point you are truly hooked. Game, set match 8)
Brilliance again, jsquared!! If I may add, PU allows more men to attract HBs but when it comes to going the distance the PCT is a really good approach. I like it already, 870!


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I love this. I've been thinking about something like this for a while since it was accidently applied and worked. I had/have been sarging a girl in work just by being confident cool etc, already got attraction then another colleague comes over and asks me if my band has any gigs lined up etc. The girl then gave "the look" you know the one I mean. I'm glad someone wrote this theory down, I love it, it's incredibly powerful!

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HAHA, this is awesome!! I do this all the time without thinking about it.

Total awesomness deluxe!

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What if your a person with lots of great things about you, would you suggest holding more than one thing back?
Great idea by the way
It's entirely up to you, dude. Because I enjoy drawing things out as much as possible and making people work to see the deeper parts of myself, I only show as much as is necessary to get the attraction needed to close (which frankly isn't that much). The more you hold back, the greater the effect when they discover it :)

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I like. You should change it to the Beer Cooler Theory, or BCT. I keep picturing a gay swash-buckler whose chest hairs ruffle in the breeze!

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<3 870 and jsquared. SO much.

this is so ridiculously true. speaking from a woman's perspective, it is far more attractive to meet a guy who has multiple levels and makes me work to see them. maybe not kill myself doing it, but i don't like a guy who completely wears everything on his sleeve. it shows almost too much trust and not enough depth. i have dated a guy like this, and in the long run, it doesn't work well.

also, it is a sort of protection for you, guys. it keeps your 'treasure' safe and if it's something like 870 and a romantic side, it truly escalates your value immensely.

i like to use this as well. i called it the mind-blowing factor, but i like pirate chest better. (good words guys!) i like to keep a diverse amount of interest. in school (for example) i was known as the good girl. when the guys found out that i was training to be a bartender and could mix drinks, they were floored. instant higher value.

awesome post guys, as usual.

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This reminds me of a relationship driven thing I use, where I isolate and rely on my life to DHV then when the time comes a littler later in deep rapport once they are already attracted to me I drop the mammoth DHVs to seal the deal.

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This post is a Pirate's Treasure.

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I'm glad you guys like this.

Madals, as 870 stated before it is entirely up to you as to what you choose to not reveal. This concept however is based in the idea that you aren't actively "trying to DHV". Rather as you develop your relationship with someone (FB, GF, etc...) she is slowly let into your life. The idea that the facets of your personality are actually boundless.

The idea of having a boundless personality stems from being open to the many experiences life has to offer. Having a driven spirit to always be learning and doing new things will make you the most interesting person women meet. If you are this kind of person then you are NEVER going to be uninteresting. There's always going to be some mystery to you, because you are always searching for new things to push yourself. Be Progressive.....


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good stuff.. this model can be applied by all lazy ppl like myself who arent aggressive for women..

i'd like to say.. i'd like to see alot more effort from you 8'.. u know alot more than some PCT ...

lets talk sometime again heh'

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