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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:33 pm 
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I'm new to this forum. However, I've already read a lot of material on picking up girls with very successful results. At the moment I've met this fantastic girl who's currently seeing someone else. She's a colleague of mine, so we have spent a lot of time together. We've been out partying together and recently I invited her over for a movie night. She's giving me all the IOIs but she still seem reluctant to ditch her current boyfriend (not official yet). How can I turn her over?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 10:41 pm 
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recently I invited her over for a movie night.

How did she respond?

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:12 pm 
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she still seem reluctant to ditch her current boyfriend
If this is not her official boyfriend, stop worrying about him. You seduce her without regards for him. If you do that right she is going to drop him. Convincing her to drop him is a waste of time.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 11:39 pm 
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she still seem reluctant to ditch her current boyfriend
If this is not her official boyfriend, stop worrying about him. You seduce her without regards for him. If you do that right she is going to drop him. Convincing her to drop him is a waste of time.
That^ If they're not official yet and she is talking to him I wouldn't put to much into her. She could be with him while you're trying to put in effort. I'd just fling her and anything after that is ok. I never mess with girls who are together with a guy or 'seeing him.'


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:22 pm 
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We actually ended up watching movies for 8 hours together and talking a lot. All the IOIs are there. I'm now just struggling to take the first move without fucking everything up, because if I do fuck it up it will be awkward for long while. She started seeing him before we first met, but I've got a strong feeling she's going to ditch him for me. I'm not sure if I shall let her make the first move or if I shall gamble. Usually I'd easily make the first move, but in this case I'm afraid of fucking things up. It's more on the line as this is a girl I'd really want to have a relationship with. Going to meet her later, I'll see how it goes. Any good way to make the first move and retreat casually if I'd get a negative response?


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We actually ended up watching movies for 8 hours together and talking a lot. All the IOIs are there. I'm now just struggling to take the first move without fucking everything up, because if I do fuck it up it will be awkward for long while. She started seeing him before we first met, but I've got a strong feeling she's going to ditch him for me. I'm not sure if I shall let her make the first move or if I shall gamble. Usually I'd easily make the first move, but in this case I'm afraid of fucking things up. It's more on the line as this is a girl I'd really want to have a relationship with. Going to meet her later, I'll see how it goes. Any good way to make the first move and retreat casually if I'd get a negative response?

Holy shit! 8 hours and no escalation ? The hell are you waiting for bro.

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I'm not sure if I shall let her make the first move
You should hate yourself for even saying this.

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We actually ended up watching movies for 8 hours together and talking a lot. All the IOIs are there.
Jesus christ.

You may have just friend zoned yourself.

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I'm now just struggling to take the first move without fucking everything up, because if I do fuck it up it will be awkward for long while. She started seeing him before we first met, but I've got a strong feeling she's going to ditch him for me.
You are creating what you fear with your own insecurities. Be confident and make a move and don't worry about the other guy. All YOU can control is how you show up. And 8 hours of movies with no escalation is weak ass behavior. I can only imagine how unbearable that must have been for both people, lol. Soooo awkward.

You had it all backwards: Your inaction created an awkward situation. Being congruent with your desires and leading the interaction like a dominant male would have been far less awkward.

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I'm not sure if I shall let her make the first move or if I shall gamble. Usually I'd easily make the first move, but in this case I'm afraid of fucking things up.
Dude, the girl watched movies with your for 8 hours, probably hoping and praying you'd man up and make a move.

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It's more on the line as this is a girl I'd really want to have a relationship with.
Nope! Bad way to start. This is how women reject men really, really fast. I can already feel the needy vibes.

All you need to do is be the FUN guy who gives a woman space, and who understands how their body works enough to make them orgasm whenever you hookup. That's ALL you have to do, and if you do that right, the woman brings up all the relationship stuff.

So many men get blown off right away by being way too invested.

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Going to meet her later, I'll see how it goes. Any good way to make the first move and retreat casually if I'd get a negative response?
As soon as she walks in your place and sets her purse down, make a move.

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We actually ended up watching movies for 8 hours together and talking a lot. All the IOIs are there. I'm now just struggling to take the first move without fucking everything up, because if I do fuck it up it will be awkward for long while. She started seeing him before we first met, but I've got a strong feeling she's going to ditch him for me. I'm not sure if I shall let her make the first move or if I shall gamble. Usually I'd easily make the first move, but in this case I'm afraid of fucking things up. It's more on the line as this is a girl I'd really want to have a relationship with. Going to meet her later, I'll see how it goes. Any good way to make the first move and retreat casually if I'd get a negative response?

Holy shit! 8 hours and no escalation ? The hell are you waiting for bro.
She's tricky. Everyone else is pretty straightforward. Going to meet her later, I'll give an update then. I've got a hunch that slowplaying is the right way to go at the moment. We seem to escalate a bit further every time we meet. I've got to give her time to adjust to the thought of ditching her current boyfriend. Escalating to fast she might put her guard up and regret cheating on him with me. Then I've accomplished nothing, I'd be better of friendzoning myself. Next time we meet are do or die.


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We actually ended up watching movies for 8 hours together and talking a lot. All the IOIs are there.
Jesus christ.

You may have just friend zoned yourself.

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I'm now just struggling to take the first move without fucking everything up, because if I do fuck it up it will be awkward for long while. She started seeing him before we first met, but I've got a strong feeling she's going to ditch him for me.
You are creating what you fear with your own insecurities. Be confident and make a move and don't worry about the other guy. All YOU can control is how you show up. And 8 hours of movies with no escalation is weak ass behavior. I can only imagine how unbearable that must have been for both people, lol. Soooo awkward.

You had it all backwards: Your inaction created an awkward situation. Being congruent with your desires and leading the interaction like a dominant male would have been far less awkward.

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I'm not sure if I shall let her make the first move or if I shall gamble. Usually I'd easily make the first move, but in this case I'm afraid of fucking things up.
Dude, the girl watched movies with your for 8 hours, probably hoping and praying you'd man up and make a move.

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It's more on the line as this is a girl I'd really want to have a relationship with.
Nope! Bad way to start. This is how women reject men really, really fast. I can already feel the needy vibes.

All you need to do is be the FUN guy who gives a woman space, and who understands how their body works enough to make them orgasm whenever you hookup. That's ALL you have to do, and if you do that right, the woman brings up all the relationship stuff.

So many men get blown off right away by being way too invested.

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Going to meet her later, I'll see how it goes. Any good way to make the first move and retreat casually if I'd get a negative response?
As soon as she walks in your place and sets her purse down, make a move.
I'll have to add that we started out as colleagues and then as friends. As we have been friends for a while now I'm feeling I want more. So I might have been wrong not making the move earlier, but I'll make it the next time we meet.


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8 hours of that girl praying to any and every gods that you finally make a damn move.

Poor thing. Lol.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:47 pm 
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She's tricky. Everyone else is pretty straightforward. Going to meet her later, I'll give an update then. I've got a hunch that slowplaying is the right way to go at the moment.

8 hours of movies and no escalation wasn't "slow play", it was "no play". And slow play is never the way to go. Don't waste her time, or yours. Women want a leader. I know it feels like you're violating something if you dominate, but the sooner you ditch that mentality, the better you'll do with women.

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We seem to escalate a bit further every time we meet.

You didn't escalate at all..

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I've got to give her time to adjust to the thought of ditching her current boyfriend. Escalating to fast she might put her guard up and regret cheating on him with me.
She spent 8 hours with you, hoping you'd make a move. Don't you think her boyfriend wondered where she was? Her spending that much time with you basically told you "I'm available and thinking about ditching my bf".

Had you lead the interaction and been better in bed than her bf, you probably have her.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:00 pm 
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i have been in this situation many times, waiting for something... my advice? exit your own comfort zone and escalate.

When watching movie, you can escalate by get or give massage or something like that, its pretty easy.

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"Yes, I watch a movie with you."

Is girl code for "I will be your sex slave, if you make a move."

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Why does she need to "ditch" her current boyfriend if she's already agreeing to come over to your house and watch a movie with you?

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