Hey guys, I'm a newbie here. Met this really interesting girl on the 16th of April. I approached her in college between classes and she said I had really pretty eyes. We then had a conversation for about 15 minutes but then she had to go to class, so i asked her if she wanted my number and she said "absolutely, I would love to!" Then we've been texting back and forth for a while now, she seems pretty enthusiastic. Unfortunately I had to delete some of my texts with her a while back because of memory capacity on m phone.

The most recent texts:

Thu Apr 23:
Me(4:44 P.M): "What's up?"
Her(5:09 P.M): "Just been doing school and school work all day :/ what's up with you?:)"
Me((5:18 P.M.): "aww man that sucks I've been at school all day too but I'm going swimming with my friend soon. What are your plans for tonight?"
Her(5:31 PM): "That sounds so nice!! It's a nice outside I wish I could stay outside haha I have chemistry lab tonight unfortunately :/"
Me(5:37 PM): "Haha that sucks chem labs are the worst. Hey, do you watch game of thrones?"
Her(5:38 PM): "Yeah they are! Haha and no but I eard its good! Do you??"
Me(5:50 PM): "Haha yeah i watch it, you should watch it, its my favorite show. But if you don't like violence then maybe you shouldn't haha"
Her(8:00 PM): "Violence? Is it like a manly show?"
Me(8:18 PM): "Not really haha everybody watches it. Its about like a kingdom in the middle ages in a civil war idk how to explain it."
Me(8:32 PM): "How was your chem lab?"
Her(8:44 PM): "Ohh I'll watch it and find out for myself haha:) and a mix of awful and fun! I just mixed a lot of stuff together and it was cool with it reacted but I h"
Her(8:44 PM): "ad to figure out what chemical was in each tube so that was difficult!"
Me(8:53 PM): "That sounds cool"
Me(9:03 PM): "What are you doing tonight?"
Her(9:30 PM): "I think I'm going to hangout with my friend ___! Haha what are you doing? "

Fri Apr 24:

Me(12:44 AM): "Sorry i left my phone at my house haha i was just hanging out with my friends"
Her(11:37 AM): "No worries I hope you have a nice day! "
Me(1:45 PM): "Haha so what are you doing today?"
Her(2:07 PM): "Working :/ Haha not fun! What are you doing?"
Me(4:33 PM): "Thats too bad, i just finished swimming and probably going to do hw"
Her(4:36 PM): "Oh lucky! I want to go swimming haha"
Me(5:06 PM): "Yeah its fun haha,"
Me(5:07 PM): "Hey do you wanna hang out sometime next week? we could like go to santana row"
Her(7:05 PM): "Oh my gosh I'd love to! What days are you free? "
Me(7:11 PM): "Tuesday night works for me."


It's now Sunday the 26th, what now? Does she like me? What's the next step? Thanks for helping

How old are you? Yeah if she agreed to hang out with you then you can assume so. Next step is...seducing her?

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I'm 20 years old and never had a gf. How do I seduce her?

Ha. Oh boy. Well you have until Tuesday to get a crash course. i can't tell you what to do because we all game differently..all I can say is lead her. Your texting seems pretty legit by the way. Look at some stickies in this section to help you with your game. I think you probably can start with sexual tension,

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Thanks man, I had some of my friends help me out with the texting tbh.

So, I have to "lead her," then? It's probably going to be a dinner date, which I realize is probably a bit overbearing for a first date, but I digress. How do I go about leading our conversations? How do I establish a connection? How do I convey emotion through touching her? When is it appropriate to touch her during the date?

I actually disagree.

@OP:
Your text game is not bad per se, but you did make some mistakes. I cringe whenever I see a guy send "hahas" every other text for example.
She seems very receptive towards you though, so that's great.

Anyway, you need a crash course as Mr. A suggested. Read my guide, it's linked in the signature. It focuses primarily on texting but touches on the first date subject and some other really important things as well.

Once you do that post any questions should you have them, and then we can go over how to escalate and be physical once you actually meet.

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Thanks for the input. I read your guide. I got the gist of it.

All the "haha's" began to annoy the hell out of me, but it seems like thats you guys thing. It works. No need to revamp or change it. Everyone communicates on different frequencies depending on their nature. And I'd say you guys have great natural chemistry.

I personally don't see why you bothered asking for advice. You guys are hanging out on Tuesday? Go hang out. Why did you come here? lol

I personally think your texting is great. It just flowed naturally as it should. Following rules will only work to disrupt the natural flow that you guys have. I'd say guides are for guys who just don't know what to do. You're already doing it and it led to you and her hanging out. So whats the problem? Its not like you hit a wall, or you weren't getting the results you wanted. If i pitch a baseball underhand in the most awkward way, but no one can hit it, why would I try and pitch like an professional pitcher who's pitches get hit sometimes.

She's being compliant and modeling her texting after yours. Thats all that matters.

If you need first date tips go here: 5-quick-first-date-tips-vt189168.html

Other than that.. you're golden. Coming to forums when things are going well, will only confuse you.

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I think this is a case of someone can't hit it, rather than no one.

OP stumbled across a receptive girl, so naturally it's gonna go well. Not trying to take away his credit, but I'm just saying that he shouldn't expect such great results with girls in the future if he doesn't improve a bit.

Great. Well, I'd advise reconsidering the dinner and doing something more fun. Visit multiple venues if possible.
Most importantly though, be physical on the date. Escalate and if you plan on kissing her don't do it at the end. It's clichee and awkward. Do it at a highpoint, whenever you are having the most fun. Plus if you properly escalate the kiss being a natural step forward should occur way before the end.

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Even so.. You keep doing the pitch until you find out it doesn't work any more. Plenty of guys never seek a PUA forum because what they've been doing has been working. And who's to say he won't marry this girl and be out the game for life? You're preparing him for something that may never happen. If he hits a WALL then and only then i'd instruct him to change his game, but he's doing fine as of now and doesn't need new information to interfere with what he's already doing thats successful.

Not every girl is going to be receptive to that one guide. There could be 3 guides that three types of girls are responsive too. Perhaps he met one of the other three. Unless your guide has gotten every girl you've ever texted.

I'm not sure what you see. But from where i am sitting I completely agree with Mr.Assertive when we say he's texting game is solid.

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Update:

Mon Apr 27::
Me(10:38 A.M.): "I'll pick you up tomorrow around 6"
Her(6:36 P.M.): "Sorry I actually have chemistry lecture from 6-9 so I can't :/ !"

What's the appropriate response now? I still haven't replied. You guys were right about the "haha" shit, I'm dropping that now, it was making me look too beta. No more questions, just statements.

Any advice?

Lol notice that the first objection you got is when you stopped using it. As long as she reciprocated with it there's no problems. Because she's "following". This is what I am saying, stop worrying about how it "looks" and continue to do what's proven to be working.

And why try to "alpha male" direct her to meet you instead of finding out when she is free? And then setting up a date like normal people? Where did the guy from yesterday go? You're changing unessecesarily.

I was already solid with women before finding out there was a community for it. And after reading some new material I sucked for a little while. I was trying out what I read instead of doing what was getting my success in the past. I had to relearn to just do what "feels good", what's most natural to me. Like I had before discovering any of this new stuff.

My advice is to keep being who you were being. She liked it. She was calibrating and following in your foot steps. Why compromise that for an "image"?

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Eddie's advice is usually invaluable, but in this case I disagree.

In my opinion it's like snowboarding, or lifting in the gym. Just because you can ride the board or lift big doesn't mean that you're doing it right and it absolutely doesn't mean you should disregard form. And sure once you try to correct that form you will suck at first, feel like you're actually doing worse, but then you'll see significant improvement.

Anyway, while some people have no respect for their own time and will simply mold around the girl, having no respect for her time is almost just as bad. It's fine to be assertive, but not disconsiderate. Setting the time, place and day one week in advance is one thing, but doing it a day prior to the date is another. So if you're gonna do it so late, ask if X time works for her, don't just assume it does.

Personally I wouldn't reply to her for a while. Since she didn't offer a reschedule, let her initiate the next convos and try again. Next time though be more specific.

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Lol

I just think if he said " haha so when are you free haha? So we can hang out Haha "

He'd be setting up to go on a date right now. Lol

She'd be like " haha I have class till late tomorrow haha i'm free on friday after 5 haha. Are you?"

And the he'd go " yes haha! I say we go see the avengers haha"

And she " haha awesome. Let's go haha. "

And then he " haha alright so what's your address haha? I can pick you up at 8 haha"

And she " haha alright. Here's my adress ___ ___ ___ cya soon! haha "


I think the "haha" was his form. Who's to say what form is superior. If my form gets me laid just like yours gets you laid, who's to say which is better. It's not about what you say, it's about how you say it.

I can get laid using tons of smilies or I can get laid using none at all. It makes no difference to me. I have the confidence to build rapport with a woman through any medium, any set of rules. It'll all get me to the same place, because it is not my words that gets the girl, it's my confidence.

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Oh gawd I laughed so hard reading that.

Anyway, in my opinion it's not just about how you say it, but also about why you're saying it. If you send hahas every other text you're just fucking around. You went through the grind, you've had your training. Ofcourse you can get away with it.
With him? it's different. I could bet the reason he uses them is to reduce the riskiness of his message. To play it safe, in a way. It's like asking a girl out on April's fools just so you can say it was a joke if she turns you down.
It's basically a counter-measure to protect the ego.

In any case, we can't force any style on him. Ultimately he has to choose whichever is congruent with his personality. We can just help him figure out what that is by giving him some outer perspective.

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