I'm in the Friendzonw with this girl and there is a twist.



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:32 pm 
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Only he knows if he can do it with her in the background as a friend or not.
Everybody knows he can't. That's why your advice was stupid, because it aids towards his rationalizing ways of turning this around and only serves to keep him stuck in mental masturbation purgatory.

Ideally you would be right for a guy just asking for an opinion and could have it both ways. That's blatantly obvious not the case with the OP who's far more invested in this girl than he should be.

PS: Stop being so 'murican with the easily offended attitude. I criticized your advise, I didn't attack you on a personal level.

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You speak for everybody? :shock:
The OP himself said he could let this girl go.

You said my advice was stupid. You really are quite slow aren't you...
Perhaps you will think twice before you post next time. By all means provide some constructive argument, but if you are only able to do so in such an imbecilic manner don't expect everyone to worship you on post count alone.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 1:20 pm 
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if he made sexual advances that made her uncomfortable, why did she still want to see him? women are strange

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You speak for everybody? :shock:
The OP himself said he could let this girl go.

You said my advice was stupid. You really are quite slow aren't you...
Perhaps you will think twice before you post next time. By all means provide some constructive argument, but if you are only able to do so in such an imbecilic manner don't expect everyone to worship you on post count alone.

OP also said he had oneitus for her. And since he has read some PUA books he understands what this means. Even if he said he will move on that doesn't mean he should keep her around at this time and make her a friend. What you are suggesting is more geared toward when the OP develops himself as a player and knows how to use his girl wings to his advantage. At this stage, the OP is not ready for that which is why the advice given to him would be to move on as the woman clearly stated she doesn't want to fuck him. If the OP keeps her around, his oneitis will remain strong and every move he makes will be done so with a hidden motive to change her mind about him (like Jack said).

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:19 am 
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You speak for everybody? :shock:
The OP himself said he could let this girl go.

You said my advice was stupid. You really are quite slow aren't you...
Perhaps you will think twice before you post next time. By all means provide some constructive argument, but if you are only able to do so in such an imbecilic manner don't expect everyone to worship you on post count alone.
Haha I love this. He's on this Internet message board a little too much yet he tries to be Mr. "I'm a cool alpha male who has a lot of busy things to do, like banging tons of girls, but I'll take the time out of my busy schedule to answer your lame question". He's literally on like every thread in this forum and then he tries to bring his fake tough love approach to ppl legitimately looking for advice. No one asks for his opinion. I even hate writing this cuz it gives him the attention he wants and legitimizes him. Give your opinions to your mother bro.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:48 am 
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The OP himself said he could let this girl go.
You're pretty fuckin naive.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:52 am 
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Thanks for the warm welcome.
I think that's what is so awesome. Many of the seasoned posters are so warm and welcoming to newcomers. That's why this forum is such a great place to stick around and get to know you all better. I'm sure all new posters feel as perky as I do with all the great and intelligent responses to their questions or statements.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:14 pm 
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I think I will try to patch the wounds and be her friend, and then let the rest be orginical chemestry.

The thing is she does like me, and have explicity said that she would consider me as a partner but she just broke up with this abusive guy. However I do not want to tie her down I want her to live her life but I still like her a lot and would rather be friends then nothing.

She clearly wants to be friends with me there is no doubt about that but maybe not after this episode.
Take this scenario. You broke up with a girl you really liked 1 month ago. You are currently seeing 2 girls. The one is decent looking, you are fine with each other, discussion can be a little boring and there is no huge sexual spark. She seems like she would want something serious while you would be looking more into occasional sex if that happens.

Second girl, is insanely beautiful, witty, fun, sexy and has a good career. You are having humorous and intelligent conversations and if you had the chance you would to put her in the corner at the first opportunity and get down to business. She is a great long term girlfriend potential.

You still have feelings for you ex and you don't want to mess around with other people's feelings. You might have to let girl A down if you are not interested. BUT... Would you even think about telling Girl B anything that might have turned her off and takes it as a rejection? NOPE. You wouldn't.

So, as you understand this girl just let you down easily saying that she is not really attracted to you.
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Maybe I will just have a good talk tell her where I'm coming from and what I expect out of our relationship. I think that is the way to go.
No, don't do that. I 'll make a more extreme analogy. Let's say that there is the ugly, fat unattractive girl in your social circle, she is kind of smart, you get along and can have a laugh sometimes so you are ok being in her company. Then she reveals she has feelings for you. Isn't it going to change the dynamic of all the future interactions? Telling someone how you feel about them is not going to change how they feel about you. Well if you did anyway tell her then it is not realistic to remain friends, it would be better for you to stop all contact so that you can move on, unless you wouldn't mind seeing her with another guy sooner or later.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 2:23 pm 
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Thanks for the warm welcome.
I think that's what is so awesome. Many of the seasoned posters are so warm and welcoming to newcomers. That's why this forum is such a great place to stick around and get to know you all better. I'm sure all new posters feel as perky as I do with all the great and intelligent responses to their questions or statements.

Thanks again

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It doesn't matter if you are a newcomer or not. The comment would have been the same for others too. Your 3 subsequent posts were continuing and escalating the argument. Even if you feel you got personally offended one post would be more than enough to say your point. You seem like the guy whose ego gets the best of him.


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Try doing a takeaway. Sometimes chicks who have previously disqualified you or put you into the "Friend Zone", can be pulled back by using takeaways. Basically talk to other girls (also fucking other girls too), and have so much going on with these other girls that you don't even have any time left over for her (kinda ignoring her and putting plans that you have made together with her, onto the back burner). This is "Abundance" and girls can feel when you are into that zone of "Abundance". You will start to see her chasing you (calling you, texting you, and coming over to see you more often). If she complies to your escalation..reward her with kino, compliments, statements of sexual intent, and ioi's. If she does not complies to your escalation..punish her by using a "Freeze Out". (taking away from the girl the kino, compliments, statements of sexual intent, and ioi's). Keep push-pulling her like this until she puts you into a situation for her to fuck you. And trust me, if you do it correctly she will. ; )


This tactic might seem petty and cruel, but really..what is more petty and cruel than a girl putting a guy that has been good to her over an extended period of time into the "Friend Zone"?...EXACTLY!


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Let´s be honest, you can´t have a female friend you are attracted to just to bang other women. The idea is good but it´s just good in your imagination.

When you are infatuated with a girl that sees you as a friend, you already lost.

I was in the exact same situation, I came up with a "Barney Stinson like" master plan to turn the tables by making her feel "used" after she helped me getting hot women and all kind of ridiculous 007 calculations to make her fall for me. It´s all bullshit dude, maybe it isn´t impossible, just like it isn´t impossible to win the lottery, but I´m not spending all my savings in lottery tickets.

You gotta stop seeing her, friendship is over, delete her from your phone and Facebook, etc. Spend some time with yourself thinking why the hell did you fell for a crazy bitch that humiliated you, what is broken inside you? Fix it and then go out there and meet girls.

It´s so hard to let go, (specially if you already kissed her and felt a connection) but you have to, be the best version of yourself so this won´t happen again, ever.


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