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R.C. My man!!! You made tears come to my eyes. So beautiful. I thought I will go nuts in this thread. FINALLY, someone who understands.
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Would be a shame if OP did something stupid due to bad advice.

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RC and In$tinct, you're advice is pure gold.

You are right on every aspect, events and convos with her in the past 2 days made me realise you are right on 100%
She’s an attention getter like you guys said, not an attention seeker. I can’t blame her for being beautiful, smart and interesting, and having guys hit on her all the time. All the green flags show she likes me a lot and respect me. I just have to keep my alpha frame and let her live her life like the independant woman she is.

Blaming her for this “behaviour” or soft nexting her would have been a huge mistake.

I’ll post all the details about what happened as soon as I can, thank you so much for your valuable help.
And I’ll give you feedback on the last posts you guys wrote, pure gold and on the spot

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Logically, I agree with rc and instinct but something about this thread has me worried for the Op. Maybe it's the multitude of threads here that start with doubts and then things end up bad so I've gotten jaded. Good luck


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If you want a smoking hot gf you gotto deal with that stuff.
Ignore it, be confident yourself (you got decent qualities as you mentioned in original post), relax and sit back.
Have like 1 talk about it to set out lines, for example no kissing/fucking ect with any other guys or it's over.
If she is indeed the person you mention it won't be a problem for her and she will respect it.


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Thanks guys for all the feedback
Here's some new info and events that changed my perception and made it clear RC and In$tinct were right all along on how to deal with HB10 attention getter girlfriend.
Like you guys said, I can pretty much see only green flags (except two or three little stuff) and the things I mentioned are more insecurities on my part than real threats…

***First

Two days ago I was supposed to pick her up from her work and we were supposed to hang out. She said on the phone "I only have one hour to hang out with you cuz I have stuff to do, etc.". She always says stuff like that, and yeah usually she has a pretty busy schedule.
I said sure, whatever, you'll do what you have to do. So I pick her up and instead of proposing many places to go out and eat (I always propose/lead, then she often complains about all the choices, she's a spoiled girl!), I took your advice guys and said in a playful and not caring tone ""hey darling tonite is your nite, choose somewhere we'll go eat, and I'll drop u home after. It better be fun!"" I framed it as if I had no problem spending one hour with her and dropping her home after, most likely because I had plans after.

I noted a sharp change in her behaviour: she chose for us to grab some take out (she never choses that, she likes to go out) and go to my place instead of hers (my place usually means sex).

We spent the evening and the night at my place, best sex ever, I made her cum twice and dropped her home the next day.

What I learned: When I keep the alpha male busy guy frame, she wants me so bad. When I'm too much available and "soft", it actually pushes her away. Like you guys said, I have to deal with her in a framing where she is chasing me, not the opposite. And it is surprisingly easier than I thought.

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I know it's bad, really bad, but I accessed her facebook account (it took me a few mins).

What I learned: Yes a lot of guys hit on her, but they all crash and burn. I never realised how 95% of guys are pure AFCs. And she's a real sweatheart, she maintains a friendly attitude with the random dudes and guy friends, not really flirty. I guess she’s cute, funny and interesting so that’s why she gets all this attention. Can't blame her for that. Yeah idealy I'd like her to be less receptive to all those dudes, but it's in her nature to be friendly and reaching people.
Of course a facebook account doesn’t tell everything about a girl, but it shows a lot of stuff. Didn't see any red flags.
I felt so bad invading her privacy, so I didn’t check all her stuff, but just enough to be reassured.

***Third

Thanks to you guys, my text game was one of the big reason I hooked up with this girl a few months ago. Always cocky funny texts, short and sweet, unpredictable, etc. I tease her, never texts more than her, always the one ending the convo, etc.

She showed me so many texts of AFC writing her long boring texts, asking random questions, hidden agendas, even giving her attitude.

Lately I became lazy and stopped thinking before texting her which was not good at all.

Four days ago I came back to PUA texting, PUA phone calls and alpha attitude. I made myself scarcer and a little bit hard to reach. Right away I noticed I big change in her attitude, I started receiving “I miss u” texts from her and stuff like that where she's looking forward seeing me.

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If you want a smoking hot gf you gotto deal with that stuff.
Ignore it, be confident yourself (you got decent qualities as you mentioned in original post), relax and sit back.
Have like 1 talk about it to set out lines, for example no kissing/fucking ect with any other guys or it's over.
If she is indeed the person you mention it won't be a problem for her and she will respect it.
Thanks for the advice

Yeah we had a talk early on, she actually initiated it and said that kissing or gridding for her is cheating. It's all good for me actually, the more conservative she is the easier it is for me to live with all the orbiters, knowing she has defined limits.
Yeah thanks, the key is to sit back, relax and enjoy as you say!
As long as I only see green flags, I can live with a girlfriend having lot’s of dudes hitting on her or orbiting around. Thanks to you guys, I also know what are the red flags so I can react if I see some!

For now it seems all good, time will tell. There's still some minor issues, but nothing big.

For example she stills fill and book her weekends and nights in advance and seldom includes me in advance (only last minute). She has so many friends and every one of them complains they don't see her enough. We always manage to see each other and spend 2-3 nights per week, but I guess I have to accept she has a busier schedule than me. I might have one event or party to go every weekend and she might have 5. I try to keep busy and to show her I don't mind and I'm having fun too. She'll start full time work very soon so that might slow her down a lot on parties and going out, which is good for me.

And there's still a lot of random dudes and orbiters I don't trust, but I guess I have to be confident and trust her on that. With time she's getting attached to me and it might be easier to deal with these issues later in the relationship. As long as there's no red flags...

Thanks guys and any feedback is appreciated
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I know it's bad, really bad, but I accessed her facebook account (it took me a few mins).

What I learned: Yes a lot of guys hit on her, but they all crash and burn. I never realised how 95% of guys are pure AFCs. And she's a real sweatheart, she maintains a friendly attitude with the random dudes and guy friends, not really flirty. I guess she’s cute, funny and interesting so that’s why she gets all this attention. Can't blame her for that. Yeah idealy I'd like her to be less receptive to all those dudes, but it's in her nature to be friendly and reaching people.
Of course a facebook account doesn’t tell everything about a girl, but it shows a lot of stuff. Didn't see any red flags.
I felt so bad invading her privacy, so I didn’t check all her stuff, but just enough to be reassured.
Don't ever do that again. I mean it.

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Don't ever do that again. I mean it.
No worries, accessed briefly her account once to make sure I wasn't wasting my time (and hers) in this relationship
green flags all over and almost nothing to worry about


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Don't ever do that again. I mean it.
No worries, accessed briefly her account once to make sure I wasn't wasting my time (and hers) in this relationship
green flags all over and almost nothing to worry about
Now you know you can do it, the urge to snoop will be almost irresistible next time something is up.


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Don't ever do that again. I mean it.
No worries, accessed briefly her account once to make sure I wasn't wasting my time (and hers) in this relationship
green flags all over and almost nothing to worry about
Now you know you can do it, the urge to snoop will be almost irresistible next time something is up.


Pretty much this.

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Yeah i guess u guys are right
I would only check it back if clear red flag comes along

Past week was perfect with her, since i have (almost) nothing to worry about, i felt much more confident and in control and she digs it. She went to her halloween party with friends and i was ok with it (not thrilled), she had fun with her friends, got asked for her number a few times, one orbiter around, usual stuff. Difference is my head was clear, i had fun on my own that night and we spent the next day together.

****guys if u could access your gf's fb or texts only for particular or specific situations, would u do it?
If ur mature, only good can come out of this: u eiher have thr peace of mind if everythng is rosy or u deal with the situation if u see a red flag (i.e. Worse case being break up with her if suspicions of cheating are founded).

It's a bad action to do, but if both are better off after it...

Thank you for your feeback


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Yeah i guess u guys are right
I would only check it back if clear red flag comes along

Past week was perfect with her, since i have (almost) nothing to worry about, i felt much more confident and in control and she digs it. She went to her halloween party with friends and i was ok with it (not thrilled), she had fun with her friends, got asked for her number a few times, one orbiter around, usual stuff. Difference is my head was clear, i had fun on my own that night and we spent the next day together.

****guys if u could access your gf's fb or texts only for particular or specific situations, would u do it?
If ur mature, only good can come out of this: u eiher have thr peace of mind if everythng is rosy or u deal with the situation if u see a red flag (i.e. Worse case being break up with her if suspicions of cheating are founded).

It's a bad action to do, but if both are better off after it...

Thank you for your feeback
Here is the important thing about this mate. You don't respect her at all. And you don't trust her. There is nothing good that can come out of checking your girlfriends personal stuff. And I mean ever.

If you don't see anything suspicious than you will be relieved. But the question is, what was your problem in the first place ? Why do you think she would do anything behind your back ?

What if you are insecure and go check her stuff and see her talking to a guy. You misinterpret it as being flirty where as she was only friendly. You tell her because you can't keep it in yourself. And she dumps you like a piece of shit because you don't trust her and didn't respect her privacy.

I am dead sure that you will check her facebook again when things are not that rosy. And you will get insecure. And you will fuck this up. Since you are young this will be a good learning experience.

Answering your question I wouldn't check my girlfriends texts. You are not mature if you do it period.

Also people told you here do not do it. You still did. If you don't listen to good advice here please stop wasting others time.


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****guys if u could access your gf's fb or texts only for particular or specific situations, would u do it?
If ur mature, only good can come out of this: u eiher have thr peace of mind if everythng is rosy or u deal with the situation if u see a red flag (i.e. Worse case being break up with her if suspicions of cheating are founded).

Ok first off , mature is the first thing you are not by invading her privacy.

Secondly , when you do it , you're doing out of a place of despair , insecurity and emotional volatility. You're not stable ,so you drastically increase the chances of misinterpreting what would otherwise be the most harmless reply you've ever seen.
You'll see "red flags" because you'll wanna see them.
Then you proceed to break-up with her or whatever and there you have it.Congrats , you just fucked up a perfectly good relationship for no reason whatsoever.

Lastly,No , I would never ,under any circumstance invade my girls privacy like that.


PS: Your irrational terror of being hurt will be the end of not only this relationship , but many more to come.
Stop being so damn insecure.

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It's fucking easy to access facebook accounts, especially the people's you know. I could think of a hundred different methods and maybe not get it in a few minutes like you did but it wouldn't take long.

It's not that I just wouldn't log in because it's counterproductive, I simply don't want to. I don't feel comfortable with invading people's private personal stuff. Everything that is on her facebook account is her own business and you have absolutely no right to see it whether she's cheating or not.

And especially if she's not and I'm quite clueless that everything is so right and you're on a road that's painted fluorescent green and is in the middle of Green Forest, and there are green flags placed all over at the side of it and huge green lamps that light it and big green signs with capitals saying "EVERYTHING IS FINE" and the only red thing is your fucking car on this road.

Mate, get your shit together or else this is not going to end well. Do you know how many times have we seen this with R.C and the others? Do you have an idea how many times something similar happened in threads here? Take a guess how most of them ended. Why do you think we're so against this? It's not just the morals, it will fuck you and the relationship up. Whenever something wouldn't feel right in this relationship and you'd come here to ask for advice, if I find out you opened your gf's fb account again I will simply tell you "That is the problem" and I will be right.

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It seems like I've seen the opposite on these forums with respect to invading privacy. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't check my gf's fb, phone or email, but then again, I'm not in the same situation as most of these guys. It seems like more likely than not, I will see a guy write that he has some doubts about his relationship with respect to trust, nothing concrete and usually things that can be explained by the girl. But when they DO check the phone or fb, they find the proof that confirms their suspicions. Last post I remember like this was the guy who had everything going well with his gf then found out she was going to some guy's place and fooling around.

It's wrong to check a girl's fb but I feel like for some guys that's the best course. It's either check and see what's going on, break up over feelings, or continue in the relationship having doubts. If your gf is honest then invading wouldn't do anything. As with the experience OP had, he checked, found nothing and can move on. He could have tried not caring, going out and having fun, but he would still have to lingering thoughts of her cheating.

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It seems like I've seen the opposite on these forums with respect to invading privacy. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't check my gf's fb, phone or email, but then again, I'm not in the same situation as most of these guys. It seems like more likely than not, I will see a guy write that he has some doubts about his relationship with respect to trust, nothing concrete and usually things that can be explained by the girl. But when they DO check the phone or fb, they find the proof that confirms their suspicions. Last post I remember like this was the guy who had everything going well with his gf then found out she was going to some guy's place and fooling around.

It's wrong to check a girl's fb but I feel like for some guys that's the best course. It's either check and see what's going on, break up over feelings, or continue in the relationship having doubts. If your gf is honest then invading wouldn't do anything. As with the experience OP had, he checked, found nothing and can move on. He could have tried not caring, going out and having fun, but he would still have to lingering thoughts of her cheating.

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I agree with you. And OPs problem is exactly the lingering thoughts. Which is something he needs to deal with. Otherwise they won't just go away by themselves and he will find himself remaining insecure and it will eventually fuck the relationship up.

With regards to the first part of your post. I agree for a lot of guys checking their girlfriends stuff will save time because the relationship is going downhill anyway. But when you are in a relationship and your girlfriend starts acting funny (because if they cheat they will or if they cheat and treat me exactly the same way as before then I see no problem and I actually don't want to know what they are doing) you should be able to talk to them about the issues. And if that doesn't work you need to get out of the relationship.
I still wouldn't recommend spying for anybody.


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