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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:51 pm 
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Hi all!

I've been wandering the forum for a couple of months now and made lots of progress. I came across this girl I used these technique's on and with succes! I've decided to stick with this girl a little longer. Now, a few weeks later, doubts on the relationship are popping up.

Straight to the point; she doesn't show much interest in me anymore. Atleast, im getting this feeling. When I confronted her with this, she was like "I'm sorry etc etc" while she was crying her ass off. I'm thinking; then why aren't you showing interest in me if you like me so much? Cat theory really does excists I guess.

I'm pretty confused, but the last thing I want is to act like a total wuss, or atleast a terrible needy person. I've tried everything; Froze her out/desinterest (which is hard cause I talk to her everyday, if not msn, its text.), showed interest (which is bad, but I just wanted to figure out.).
I'm out of idea's. BUT, when I AM around her, there is completely NO problem, in fact, when I see her, we end up making out pretty much the whole evening. Do I worry too much?

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We're still in HS (different schools) and both virgins. This is my first serious relationship and hers probably too. I want to have sex with this girl, but she is kinda holds back. I don't have the experience in initiating sex or something close to that. I would like to get some tips on this part!

Example text she sended, after not talking to her the whole day:
"Heey sweety! how are you? Now I haven't talked to you again today! I kinda miss you though. Sweet kiss"

Please, don't tell me I suffer from one-itis. I'm using these technique's getting girls I like, and might go further then just dating them.

Kind regards,

Okiokdan


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:20 pm 
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Well I am not an expert on this stuff myself so dont know how much help I can be! I will point out however that it can't be one-itis if you are in a relationship with the girl! If your have LTR then its should be one-itis kind of so don't worry about people mentioning that.

I am sure a few other people will pop up soon with some usefel info on how to keep a LTR fresh etc. Sex will come dont pressurize it if your both virgins its a big step...damn its a big step for those of us who have had it :wink:

Sorry I know not much help but I would advise dont worry so much tell yourself shes lucky to be with you etc. because sometimes these types of insecurities can push the girl away.

Anyway someone with a little more experience and better advice care to add?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:06 pm 
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I'm no expert, not even close and you'll most likely get better advise from some of the other guys on here, but..
Even though it is an LTR I wouldn't take it so seriously your in High School.
You wrote that when you are together the two of you make out almost the whole evening. I remember when I was still in HS that was like my back-up anytime I didn't feel as though I had something interesting to say or do.

Definitely agree with g00-it
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Sex will come dont pressurize it if your both virgins its a big step...damn its a big step for those of us who have had it :wink:
Again these are just my thoughts someone else can probably give you better advise. I would say don't be needy, maybe do some take-aways while you are spending time with her, or maybe find some other way to engage in interaction with her other than making-out.

Or maybe in casual way let her know what you expect, you weren't really definitive about how she's not showing interest..

Good luck to ya


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:23 am 
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This is a question for an agony aunt in your sunday paper, not pua.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 4:41 pm 
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Thanks for being supportive, Beaker- this is, after all, the NEWBIE Questions section...

Let me give you something to think about, Okiokdan. It will come in handy for a while, seeing how you're in high school- keep this in the back of your mind until you're out of college....

You maturity level does not match the maturity level of others!

Even if you're operating from a senior HS or freshman college maturity level, it doesn't mean anyone else is. This girl you're talking about may be stuck in an 8th grade level maturity level, or less. If you enter a relationship with an HB, you must look at how developed her EMOTIONAL state is. Is this girl on your level? Maybe, but from your post I would say not. If she's not on your level, you and her with have conflicts on EVERY issue in the relationship. If she's mentally junior high, you're not going to connect, and you're sure not going to have sex with her. You just *can't* be mismatched with someone. It doesn't work.

Go for someone else- someone who matches your maturity. Find another girl, and the problems in this relationship won't come up in the next one- that is, if the two of you balance eachother.

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I stopped reading when I read after a couple weeks she didn't seem interested anymore.

This pickup stuff shows you how to get the girl by honestly being someone who most really aren't. It teaches you how to be interesting and be cool, but that can only last so long because lets be real, it is almost all an act. Once you run out of material which is what got her interested in the first place, then what do you have to fall back on? Yourself, your real personality. Work on yourself and become a better and more interesting person. You aren't going to get that done through routines and DHV stories which are blatant lies unless you alter change them to something that happened in your life. Even then, it is still an act regardless. Even though this stuff produces results, it doesn't produce a steady long term relationship. The breakup things are going to happen, that is what gives you stories and real shit to talk about.

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Thanks guys for the few reply's. I've got enough info to make up my mind.


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I stopped reading when I read after a couple weeks she didn't seem interested anymore.

This pickup stuff shows you how to get the girl by honestly being someone who most really aren't. It teaches you how to be interesting and be cool, but that can only last so long because lets be real, it is almost all an act. Once you run out of material which is what got her interested in the first place, then what do you have to fall back on? Yourself, your real personality. Work on yourself and become a better and more interesting person. You aren't going to get that done through routines and DHV stories which are blatant lies unless you alter change them to something that happened in your life. Even then, it is still an act regardless. Even though this stuff produces results, it doesn't produce a steady long term relationship. The breakup things are going to happen, that is what gives you stories and real shit to talk about.
I'm really REALLY surprised to hear you say something like that Ice. I thought you were one of the guys on the forum that knew that the best and most effective way to be a PUA, isn't to used canned routines, lines and fabricated realities, but instead to make yourself a more socially apt person. I haven't changed who I am in the least to become a PUA, I've just allowed myself to become the person I always wished I could be, but held myself back from being. Being a PUA is about giving in to your instincts.

Sure, maybe I was cool to begin with and had interests that any girl would find cool and interesting, such as metal working, electronics, videogames, hiking, cinematics and most recently (we're talking December, meaning after I became a PUA) World of Warcraft. I'm a big fuckin' nerd, but man I'm fun and I can carry a conversation. I've seen a lot and so I have the ability to talk about a lot of things and know not to dwell on things that others might consider nerdy.

My uncle was a natural and just incredible at attracting women, but he was ranked anywhere between the 1st and 3rd best Warhammer 40k player in Canada and typically the 3rd best painter as well. If you don't know, 40k is one of those turn based games that you roll one of those many sided dice for and have huge rulebooks, with little painted figurines. He had a gigantic movie collection, knew more about computers than I ever will and we built a room in his basement to be a theater room with a projector and everything. Big geek. Amazing with women.

The point boys, is to be round. Remember english class in highschool? Round characters and Flat characters? Dynamic and Static? The best PUA is a Dynamic Round character; meaning he is capable of changing and evolving (Dynamic) and that he is full of personality and many sided (Round). If you are making yourself a Flat Dynamic PUA, then you only have 2 sides. One side has the ability to attract women and the other is probably pretty far away from that, otherwise it wouldn't be on the opposite side of the Flat surface.

You need to be Round, with many aspects in order to keep people interested past a couple weeks and in order to be the most you can be. If you are staying Flat, then you aren't making the most of life, you are just putting on a false front overtop who you really are, you aren't growing and changing at all, you're still just the same AFC at heart and you haven't embraced what being a PUA is all about, you're just pretending.

If you feel the feel upset about what I'm saying, if you feel the urge to respond angrily, then I'm just going to assume that this applies to you and you should take my advice and make a life for yourself instead of lying to yourself. You'll be a lot happier.

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a fuckin men to that! shit I read a bit on this forum and a lot that stands out is be yourself pua is sorta just a booster seat to help you get over your insecurities and be yourself and help you be more comfortable socially. :)


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She isn't interested simply because she realized that you are not the technique you use.

Simply put:

You do PU, while you're still the same on inside. Its simply natural that she realized that. Now she feels tooled. I suggest you tell her that you've used a "technique", but now you would like to be honest-she either will stay, or will leave.


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this post is over 3 years...

whats the update? :D

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