Why did you wait for the end of the date when she was in a hurry to try to kiss her?

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I was touching her throughout the date but she was uncomfortable so kinda backed off, if her body language was more open I would have kissed her.

At the moment she's basically stopped a lot of contact. So I don't know what to do.

We all just gave you advice.

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Why are you wasting people's advice like that. You got the blueprint. Pay attention

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lol I predict another 16 pager.

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Did you not read the advice?

Don't pay attention to the majority-PUA nonsense about handsy "kino". It's the Awkward Bible for the Damned.

Become an amazing kisser. Become amazing at eating pussy. Make lots of eye contact, tease her playfully, be confident, then go for the kiss.

When you do this, women will not "go silent". They will be begging for sex by making up hilarious excuses to see you.

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yeah I get that you need to be more playful, go for the kiss, be more confident, be more alpha. However in the past I've gone in for the kiss and it's scared off the girl. I wouldn't be on here If I was great at this stuff. Obviously I need to improve big time.

I was at her house party over the weekend but it didn't go well, I was wasn't feeling great so wasn't my usual self. Now she has gone completely silent. I just don't know what to do? I've not contacted her. do I just give her space? and hope she contacts me.

When you're stood face to face with a girl:

Look into her eyes
Slowly look at her lips
Back to her eyes
Back to her lips
Back to her eyes

If at any point she looks at your lips, the kiss is on.

Sounds a little gamey but it's a decent enough tip and it works.

Don't wait until the end of the date.

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Thanks J Daniels, that's pretty good advice.

Thanks J Daniels, that's pretty good advice. This girl seems to have really closed up on me. Shall I ask her what's up? Or will that make me look weak?

Yea it'll make you look a bitch. Have you tried to contact her since the date?

If not then call her and ask when she's free to get together again. If she rejects then tell her to give you a call when she changes her mind.

If you've already tried then don't bother. Think of it like tennis - you've hit the ball over, don't just keep hitting more and more balls at her.

The most important part is to talk to more girls.

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Classic Corey Wayne advice! I've followed a lot of his stuff. Pitty his advice doesn't stick in for me. I've read the book about 10 times I should know better.

If I ask her for a date it's kind of acknowledging that there isn't a problem when there is.

In the communication section in Corey Wayne book he says to try and communicate with her to get out what is bothering her. However he says when a girl goes quiet to stop contact.

He also says when she goes quiet to make contact only once per week to make definite plans. If the girl doesn't make them tell her to let you know when her schedule is free. As he says hangout, have fun and hookup.

There is clearly something bothering her otherwise she wouldn't stopped contact. I messaged her after the party saying I had fun, and she replied saying thanks for coming ect. I've not heard from her since. It's like night and day though she use to Initate a lot of contact now zero.

Everything you hear me say can be traced back to Corey Wayne, Adam Lyons, Jason Capital or Gambler if you go back far enough. I usually just pick the things that I've tested and suggest them to others.

Anyway, on topic, if you have to ask if something is needy then you know that it is. Don't ask her what the problem is because you wont get an answer.

You know the stuff that you should be doing, but you're looking for justifications to do the things that you shouldn't; "Corey Wayne says to communicate" bla bla. You shouldn't ask her what the problem is. If she's not talking to you enough then it's because she's not yet attracted enough to you. She's busy. Just keep doing what you know to do: HANG OUT, HAVE FUN, HOOK UP! You know this better than me, because I've read Corey Wayne's book 6 times. Granted I probably have more "infield" experience and I've watched and read a metric shit load of other material... but Corey Wayne's book and a few cold approaches is pretty much all you need, honestly.

The likes of Dragula and RC learned from Models by Mark Manson and 60YOC as far as I know... and there's a lot that I could learn from them both about the seduction stage. Maybe that book is better, but I've only ever listened to about half of Models as an audiobook so I'm not entirely sure what's covered.

Enough talk about material. Go talk to as many girls as possible. Go get 100 approaches under your belt and date as many girls as you can.

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My infield experience is not good, yeah there has been some dates where I'm making out with the girl on the first date, those are the girls I usually don't like and it never goes anywhere. I know Corey Wayne says treat all the girls the same, I was doing really well with this girl she was iniating most of the contact at least about 70%.

Where I went wrong was kinda showing a bit more interest in the last 3 weeks. Like Corey Wayne has said women are more attracted to men who's feelings are unclear. He's spot on about this, playfully flirt and tease but never give anything more away, it keeps the girl chasing you and wanting more.

She may have simply got bored, is seeing someone else, or is pissed off with me about something or a combination of all them. She's still not contacted me so not much I can do. It's funny it kind of started after a date a couple of weeks ago, where I didn't make a move and probably appeared weak as fuck!