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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 1:59 am 
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I agree with alot of pumpingtons assessment here. My guess is you did too much teasing and it got tiring. I mean damn man, you ran the fasting/breakfast food talk into the ground. I think what pump was talking about is annoyance on her side, and I cant blame her because I groaned reading it. Shes probably thinking shes not in a rush for date 3 and more banter back and forth. Teasing without escalating = not good.

Also, heres the thing about inviting a woman to your place. Most women know what that means. The problem is, she has to be in the mood to fuck you, and if you havent turned her on prior or currently, she's not going to want to come over. You gotta seduce a chick, and this talk of fasting and breakfast was not seductive. Jumping her bones on date 3 at your place, unless she was really into you, is not a good move.

If in your country kissing is forbidden in certain places, you gotta arrange your dates differently. Cause you shouldnt have been taking her to places you couldnt kiss, and you shouldnt have been delaying moving her to a more private location. You say you like to be playful; well you have to use that playfullness to escalate. Trying to push her in the pond, laughing, then grabbing her and kissing her deeply = GREAT. Trying to push her in the pond and doing nothing after = CHILDISH. Use that playfulness and familiarity to move her. Not for callback humor.
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I definitely don't agree with archstanton's approach, but to each his own. I think sending a girl, "bar x, 10" shows no rapport or fun. It depends what you're after I guess.

That's an "Eastwood/Statham" text you send after you've acted liked a woman (turned her off) and gone no contact for a few days.. a last ditch effort to show leadership and reveal her level of attraction before you write her off.

It's the antidote to being too invested/needy/gamey/wordy.

If anything, she'll think "who the fuck does this guy think he is?". But trust me, absolutely trust me when I say that's a better thought for her to have than "he's a nice guy".

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I kinda get what Arch is saying, at the least it sounds better than OP's strategy to call. She's already started not replying so a "feeler" text to initiate another conversation...there's a good chance she wont respond and wont in the future. A phone call...she'll send to vmail. Shes about to stop responding completely and cut contact with you. So, if you ARE going to try contacting again, a simple text with no fluff may be your best shot. You're deep in damage control territory so if you were gonna take a final shot, you have too little investment for her to answer the phone, and too little interest for her to respond to a text. Now I dont think a text like archs is gonna turn things around, or change her perception of you, but Im struggling on ideas for what you could at this point besides moving on.


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The Hail Mary for a flakey girl

'It's going to be REALLY awkward If you're going to be this quiet when we have sex ;)'

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That's an "Eastwood/Statham" text you send after you've acted liked a woman (turned her off) and gone no contact for a few days.. a last ditch effort to show leadership and reveal her level of attraction before you write her off.

It's the antidote to being too invested/needy/gamey/wordy.

If anything, she'll think "who the fuck does this guy think he is?". But trust me, absolutely trust me when I say that's a better thought for her to have than "he's a nice guy".
It may be, but once your behavior/actions defines you as a needy, nice guy, suddenly pulling a Statham text will not save it. It's paper thin.

He'd be better off by just moving on with a lesson learned, rather than keep wasting energy on her.

Besides, she'd probably think it's a text he sent to half his agenda.

@OP, neo's piece about playful vs childish is gold.

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Basically what neo said. You're asexual to her (didn't escalate). When you refuse to escalate you do a disservice to the girl - not seeing her as the sexual being she is, and yourself too for feeling shame for being sexual.


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The Hail Mary for a flakey girl

'It's going to be REALLY awkward If you're going to be this quiet when we have sex ;)'

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Yeah , I remember reading this one from you last year as the high risk one.

Side note, since you mentioned it. I also remember the one "House is dirty and messy, kids are wondering where you are. We are worried you have been kidnapped". I have used the second one last year after one month no contact with an Indian girl (first date made out in the car, then chatted with texts, called, tried to set up another meeting, was flakey and then she was going away for few days, told her to send me a text when she is back and nothing). Long story short, had couple more dates, took her back to my place, made out at my house, picked her up took her to bed, she froze out, gave me speech that she takes time to sleep with someone and guys in the past have stopped contact with her because she was not sleeping with them, then she started talking about random stuff. Had one more date about 3 weeks later after I came back from holidays but didn't go anywhere.
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I agree with alot of pumpingtons assessment here. My guess is you did too much teasing and it got tiring. I mean damn man, you ran the fasting/breakfast food talk into the ground. I think what pump was talking about is annoyance on her side, and I cant blame her because I groaned reading it. Shes probably thinking shes not in a rush for date 3 and more banter back and forth. Teasing without escalating = not good.

Also, heres the thing about inviting a woman to your place. Most women know what that means. The problem is, she has to be in the mood to fuck you, and if you havent turned her on prior or currently, she's not going to want to come over. You gotta seduce a chick, and this talk of fasting and breakfast was not seductive. Jumping her bones on date 3 at your place, unless she was really into you, is not a good move.

If in your country kissing is forbidden in certain places, you gotta arrange your dates differently. Cause you shouldnt have been taking her to places you couldnt kiss, and you shouldnt have been delaying moving her to a more private location. You say you like to be playful; well you have to use that playfullness to escalate. Trying to push her in the pond, laughing, then grabbing her and kissing her deeply = GREAT. Trying to push her in the pond and doing nothing after = CHILDISH. Use that playfulness and familiarity to move her. Not for callback humor.
- Probably true about the too much teasing.
- Last 2 text interactions there was no effort to be seductive. Could have easily flirted with the vampire context.
- Noted about the playful vs childish. I can modify it in the future to give a more touchy and sexual vibe. e.g. " try to push, laugh, put our arm around her waist and say "Hey, I am not that bad of a person. I don't wanna get you wet... (pause) Yet "(grin)"


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- Probably true about the too much teasing.
- Last 2 text interactions there was no effort to be seductive. Could have easily flirted with the vampire context.
- Noted about the playful vs childish. I can modify it in the future to give a more touchy and sexual vibe. e.g. " try to push, laugh, put our arm around her waist and say "Hey, I am not that bad of a person. I don't wanna get you wet... (pause) Yet "(grin)"
I can tell you this: If you'd felt more confident (and attractive) within yourself, you'd have no problem making things sexual just with your very presence.

Something tells me the next time you go about this the sexual vibe's going to come off as very contrived/forced.


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