Debunking myth- Open ended questions.



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 11:00 pm 
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Another one for the newbies. This is one thing that always bugged me, in terms of building rapport. This true in general whether it be male or female. However sticking to game, asking open questions are pointless because there is no such thing as a REAL open ended question. Try it yourself, ask yourself an open ended question and see how short you can make the response.

What is important is level of attraction, if the person likes you enough.Whether you ask them an open ended question, short question or make a statement. Their response length will usually be dictated by how much interest they have in you. This is not to say they dont have their time and place, but all in all not as powerful as people make out.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:50 am 
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I don't think it's always about the level of interest of the other person. Sometimes people, specially girls, want to respond to you but they don't know how or what to say. Either because they are shy or are not good socially (lets accept..girls can be socially awkward too) or your question sounded a bit awkward to them. Whatever the reason, you need to make it easier for them to answer your question and carry the conversation forward. That's what open ended questions are meant to do.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:09 am 
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It's more about how relevant your open ended question is to the woman. If it's something that she is genuinely interested in, it does help you on the path of being attractive. If she has no interest at all in the subject that you're asking about, then it does nothing for you. Cold approaches, open ended questions are harder because there is no foundation. If there is some commonality in your meeting, it is in your advantage.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:24 am 
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Of course it has to be on topic and has to be mutual interest point, or something one of your are interested in. However I've found(totally speaking from experience) depend on someone's attraction level, what you say doesn't even have to be relevant, you can just throw random weird bull shit in and it seems to stick. When their level of attraction is low. I've found it really doesn't matter what you say.

I hate the rating system but let's say you see someone not necessarily in appearance, but more of a whole package a 1-4. Regardless of what topics she brings up, no matter what she saying how interested are you going to be in having a long conversation opening yourself up.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 3:22 pm 
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Of course it has to be on topic and has to be mutual interest point, or something one of your are interested in. However I've found(totally speaking from experience) depend on someone's attraction level, what you say doesn't even have to be relevant, you can just throw random weird bull shit in and it seems to stick. When their level of attraction is low. I've found it really doesn't matter what you say.

I hate the rating system but let's say you see someone not necessarily in appearance, but more of a whole package a 1-4. Regardless of what topics she brings up, no matter what she saying how interested are you going to be in having a long conversation opening yourself up.
I agree with what you said, but Jack's answer is quite relevant as well - open ended questions help conversation in cases of cold approach if you haven't built up much attraction already.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:36 pm 
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Of course it has to be on topic and has to be mutual interest point, or something one of your are interested in. However I've found(totally speaking from experience) depend on someone's attraction level, what you say doesn't even have to be relevant, you can just throw random weird bull shit in and it seems to stick. When their level of attraction is low. I've found it really doesn't matter what you say.

I hate the rating system but let's say you see someone not necessarily in appearance, but more of a whole package a 1-4. Regardless of what topics she brings up, no matter what she saying how interested are you going to be in having a long conversation opening yourself up.
I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. The subject doesn't have to be of mutual interest if you're going to use talking to attract a person who isn't initially attracted to you. It has to be something that she's into. The more into it that she is the more likely you can make yourself attractive to her.

The mistake that guys usually make is that they ask stupid open ended questions. They ask questions that would illicit a logical response. The trick is triggering emotional responses and then being able to support her emotional response. This is the moment that builds attraction if you're going to be a talker.

The other mistake is that guys make is that they try to keep women talking because they, IMO, are afraid to transition from social to sexual. You can get a woman to tell you about the puppy that she had when she was little to her best friend getting engaged and how she's jealous. If the conversation doesn't transition to you finding her attractive, you're talking for nothing.

Learning how to have a conversation with women is definitely a solid tool to have in your toolbox. Open ended questions is one of the most reliable part of the conversation that allows for you to figure out more about a woman and use it to build a bond. Speaking from experience, it's one of those things that can take a low level of attraction to high.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:06 pm 
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In some seductions, opening a girl up by using the right question at the right time could be the difference as to whether you get the lay or not.

The key is how well you can listen and respond appropriately.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:25 pm 
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You're making it easier for someone to have a conversation with you by asking open ended questions... Making you more attractive because you can have a good conversation.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:24 am 
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I get what everyone's saying but only when she has some sort attraction does this matter. If she doesn't open ended questions are useless. If you want me to prove my point, someone attempts to have an engaging open ended question conversation with me. And I will reply as like a girl with a low level attraction.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 1:29 am 
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I get what everyone's saying but only when she has some sort attraction does this matter. If she doesn't open ended questions are useless. If you want me to prove my point, someone attempts to have an engaging open ended question conversation with me. And I will reply as like a girl with a low level attraction.
Everyone that's saying this is saying that you can build off of an open ended question if the question matters. How do you have it in your mind that you can stack the deck and then give a test that's set up to be a failure? I get it...you've made your statement and you can't go back and change it. Don't let ego get in the way of the truth.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:15 pm 
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I'm agreeing, but only to a certain extent. It's all about whether or not the person wants to have the conversation and is attracted to you in some degree.

Eg I like boxing, gym, food. If you were to ask open ended questions to me, they can easily be shutdown or poor response, unless YOU(the person, not the question)interest me enough to want to discuss anything.

Person: what's your favourite food
Me: I don't know

Person: what made you want to the gym
Me: just did (or if I'm feeling kind)to get healthy

Person: who's your favourite fighter
Me: I don't have one

Honestly guys questions don't matter attraction level does.


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I'm agreeing, but only to a certain extent. It's all about whether or not the person wants to have the conversation and is attracted to you in some degree.

Eg I like boxing, gym, food. If you were to ask open ended questions to me, they can easily be shutdown or poor response, unless YOU(the person, not the question)interest me enough to want to discuss anything.

Person: what's your favourite food
Me: I don't know

Person: what made you want to the gym
Me: just did (or if I'm feeling kind)to get healthy

Person: who's your favourite fighter
Me: I don't have one

Honestly guys questions don't matter attraction level does.
See...I asked you an open ended question and this is how you responded. You didn't shut down or give a poor response. You just need to ask something that will make a convo happen.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:54 pm 
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Lol I'm just trying to help the guys with similar experiences to myself


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 7:09 pm 
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Lol I'm just trying to help the guys with similar experiences to myself
Experience does not mean that you understand why something happens. For instance, you're open ended questions that you used as an example are lifeless and there is no context to how you came to ask those questions. If you were to ask those questions to anyone, you would need significant build up to get some kind of emotional charge before even asking. Make her care about the question before asking the question. If you can't do that and are not attractive to a woman already, then you'll get the results that you're currently experiencing. You'll come to the conclusion that open ended questions don't work.

I've said this many times in the past and this is important. If you can be interesting to a woman she will put effort into finding your attractive qualities.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2016 10:20 pm 
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I'll use an example. Good looking girl I was speaking to,I didn't want to draw attention to her looks or anything like that, had moved one city to mine for uni. I joked and said, all the city's you had to choose from and you move to this one. Response: I like this city. To me that states a level un-interest. When a girl likes me, she will engage and try and throw banter back.


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