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Of course it has to be on topic and has to be mutual interest point, or something one of your are interested in. However I've found(totally speaking from experience) depend on someone's attraction level, what you say doesn't even have to be relevant, you can just throw random weird bull shit in and it seems to stick. When their level of attraction is low. I've found it really doesn't matter what you say.
I hate the rating system but let's say you see someone not necessarily in appearance, but more of a whole package a 1-4. Regardless of what topics she brings up, no matter what she saying how interested are you going to be in having a long conversation opening yourself up.
I don't think you're getting what I'm saying. The subject doesn't have to be of mutual interest if you're going to use talking to attract a person who isn't initially attracted to you. It has to be something that
she's into. The more into it that she is the more likely you can make yourself attractive to her.
The mistake that guys usually make is that they ask stupid open ended questions. They ask questions that would illicit a logical response. The trick is triggering emotional responses and then being able to support her emotional response. This is the moment that builds attraction if you're going to be a talker.
The other mistake is that guys make is that they try to keep women talking because they, IMO, are afraid to transition from social to sexual. You can get a woman to tell you about the puppy that she had when she was little to her best friend getting engaged and how she's jealous. If the conversation doesn't transition to you finding her attractive, you're talking for nothing.
Learning how to have a conversation with women is definitely a solid tool to have in your toolbox. Open ended questions is one of the most reliable part of the conversation that allows for you to figure out more about a woman and use it to build a bond. Speaking from experience, it's one of those things that can take a low level of attraction to high.