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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 12:18 am 
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Just get her to hang out asap and try to make it happen.
Try and kiss her a couple of times and she how she reacts.
If she wants to hang out you've got a chance bro
Problem with this is that the girl was turned off by his original statement. This situation he has to use a different tactic because she is going to be on defense because she will be waiting for him to try something. The moment he tries a kiss, she's going to say no and that will add to the string of no's that she has already started. So taking advantage of her expecting something forward and not getting it will knock her back on her heels and quite possibly getting her to wonder if he's still interested and/or wonder why he's given up.

Most women don't like guys that like them to stop liking them and they'll actually make an effort to get them to like them again.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:25 am 
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Latest Text Exchange...

Me: I'm picking you up Saturday

Her: No your not...you eat pork...not kosher!

Me:You are
Me: I want my dinner

Her: What if my schedule is full...you should say how's your schedule looking for dinner? Would love that! Dinner that is...sure...let me check...I'm a working girl...

Left it there... Kind of getting a kick out of this. I appreciate all of your responses and advice/humor. Many of you on here who can relate, take notes.. I haven't ever been clear in my content with women until this one. I'm open to seeing other girls and get out quite often. My problem is, that I've been considered the nice guy! And I'm sick of it.! I've had my guts ripped out by my last girlfriend and took time to really recover. A lot of that is done just being alone which I experience last year and currently. I actually enjoy not having a girlfriend... and am content until I cross paths with the right one.

So that there was a tangent that I often go into. This is my pause...........

Back on topic, How should I respond back?
dude nothing is going to change unless you learn how to stop being a nice guy. you might still have a chance but it will be so hard because she is going to shit test the hell out of you and your not ready for that yet. take her out for dinner and drinks and use her as a wing...sarge other girls in front of her and use her to your advantage just like she is doing to you. that's as best as you're going to get right now.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:43 am 
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dude nothing is going to change unless you learn how to stop being a nice guy. you might still have a chance but it will be so hard because she is going to shit test the hell out of you and your not ready for that yet. take her out for dinner and drinks and use her as a wing...sarge other girls in front of her and use her to your advantage just like she is doing to you. that's as best as you're going to get right now.
Hold on. The problem started when he wasn't being a nice guy. At this point, using her as a wing won't change her opinion of him because her opinion as it stands is low. Basically, she'd see him as the guy that just wants to fuck everything and because she turned him down she'd feel justified in her decision.

This game has to be played with finesse sometimes. Too many guys here want to try to force a square peg in a round hole and expect to get results.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:54 am 
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This game has to be played with finesse sometimes. Too many guys here want to try to force a square peg in a round hole and expect to get results.
:lol: :lol: :lol: love the quote. but honestly the kid has no chances of laying her. he's not experienced enough


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:00 am 
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This game has to be played with finesse sometimes. Too many guys here want to try to force a square peg in a round hole and expect to get results.
:lol: :lol: :lol: love the quote. but honestly the kid has no chances of laying her. he's not experienced enough
I didn't think he had a chance at first, but she gave him an opening. He has an opportunity to use real seduction and none of this run and gun strategies. I think he can do it as long as he has the ability to be patient when she starts playing the hot and cold game with him.

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Thanks guys... Still pending our meet up this Saturday. Latest text exchange went as follows...

Me: Ok. How's your schedule looking for dinner?

Her: Let me get back to you.. What is better week or weekend?

Me: Saturday


That was the latest exchange from the other day. I think it's funny that she didn't get me when I said Saturday earlier in my text. Is she crazy! Anyway, I had setup plans Saturday to go out but if she gets back to me I can include her or meet up with her. We'll see what's up. If she blows me off I won't even respond to the blow off text message.


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Don't include her lol. This is not a girl you can afford not meeting 1on1 with.

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For the record I still don't see this playing out well. But regardless of that on a strictly friend level, this is not a girl I could be friends with. You do her a solid and you gotta chase her for her end of the bargain.


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For the record I still don't see this playing out well. But regardless of that on a strictly friend level, this is not a girl I could be friends with. You do her a solid and you gotta chase her for her end of the bargain.
This situation is the difference between pickup and seduction. Most of the time guys will say next these types of women, because it requires effort. She is an acquaintance and the OP is armed with all sorts of information about her which allows him the opportunity to get inside of her head. Her, on the other hand, believes that she is immune to the OP's attempts at seduction. This type of woman and what the OP knows makes her a solid candidate for seduction.

OP is requiring that she lives up to his word. The best thing he can do is allow for her to buy him a meal, Have her talk about her goals and him share any insights while sprinkling in some compliments and vague flirtation while quickly turning the conversation back to business. Once he's nearly done with the meal he can let her know that he doesn't have a lot of time because he has plans for later. Thank her, say he enjoyed himself and say that they should do it again someday. Send her a text the next day thanking her and not texting anything after that.

The point is that he can be charming and in control without directly indicating attraction. More the point, treating the attraction like it's unimportant to him. Because it's an acquaintance that is not necessarily finding him attractive at this current moment it's more like chess and less like checkers.

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For the record I still don't see this playing out well. But regardless of that on a strictly friend level, this is not a girl I could be friends with. You do her a solid and you gotta chase her for her end of the bargain.
This situation is the difference between pickup and seduction. Most of the time guys will say next these types of women, because it requires effort. She is an acquaintance and the OP is armed with all sorts of information about her which allows him the opportunity to get inside of her head. Her, on the other hand, believes that she is immune to the OP's attempts at seduction. This type of woman and what the OP knows makes her a solid candidate for seduction.

OP is requiring that she lives up to his word. The best thing he can do is allow for her to buy him a meal, Have her talk about her goals and him share any insights while sprinkling in some compliments and vague flirtation while quickly turning the conversation back to business. Once he's nearly done with the meal he can let her know that he doesn't have a lot of time because he has plans for later. Thank her, say he enjoyed himself and say that they should do it again someday. Send her a text the next day thanking her and not texting anything after that.

The point is that he can be charming and in control without directly indicating attraction. More the point, treating the attraction like it's unimportant to him. Because it's an acquaintance that is not necessarily finding him attractive at this current moment it's more like chess and less like checkers.

Think you mistook my words. What I mean is that regardless of interest just on a friend level it's rude to ask someone for a favor have them do it and when its your turn to repay them you make that person chase. Like for eg a guy friend helped me move a while back. I promised him dinner as a nicety for the favor. When he hit me up months later about grabbing that dinner I got back to him promptly and we set it up quickly. It would be rude if I took the guys help and when he hit me up I was like I'm busy will get back to you. If it were me and even this chick was just a friend I won't put myself out to help her again just because I shouldn't have to run you down for something you promised.


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For the record I still don't see this playing out well. But regardless of that on a strictly friend level, this is not a girl I could be friends with. You do her a solid and you gotta chase her for her end of the bargain.
This situation is the difference between pickup and seduction. Most of the time guys will say next these types of women, because it requires effort. She is an acquaintance and the OP is armed with all sorts of information about her which allows him the opportunity to get inside of her head. Her, on the other hand, believes that she is immune to the OP's attempts at seduction. This type of woman and what the OP knows makes her a solid candidate for seduction.

OP is requiring that she lives up to his word. The best thing he can do is allow for her to buy him a meal, Have her talk about her goals and him share any insights while sprinkling in some compliments and vague flirtation while quickly turning the conversation back to business. Once he's nearly done with the meal he can let her know that he doesn't have a lot of time because he has plans for later. Thank her, say he enjoyed himself and say that they should do it again someday. Send her a text the next day thanking her and not texting anything after that.

The point is that he can be charming and in control without directly indicating attraction. More the point, treating the attraction like it's unimportant to him. Because it's an acquaintance that is not necessarily finding him attractive at this current moment it's more like chess and less like checkers.


And i think it is clear as day by now that the OP has no seduction skills. He's not even trying any of the advice we've given him. He's just simply maintaining a log of what he is doing and responding with his POV to our comments


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And i think it is clear as day by now that the OP has no seduction skills. He's not even trying any of the advice we've given him. He's just simply maintaining a log of what he is doing and responding with his POV to our comments
I'm not quite seeing it that way. He has gotten advice to:
1. Try to kiss her a couple of times to see how she reacts.
2. Start being a bad boy and make her a wingman.
3. Take advantage of being in this situation and using the information he already has about this girl and seduce her with it.

It's kind of messed up to say that he's not listening when a lot of different people are all offering different perspectives. Fact of the matter, he did take some advice and called her on treating him to a meal. I'm not sure of his seduction skill, but I actually liked the fact that he was blunt about wanting to fuck her and was willing to be bold enough to lose her with that statement. He's in a better place than the guy that's afraid to say anything at all. It's better to put in the effort to learn from your mistakes than to be a defeatist. We shouldn't be putting defeatist thoughts in his head since he's been honest about where he stands and not blaming anyone but himself. Those are the type of guys that can develop seduction skills because they have the ability to learn.

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Hey all, thanks for chiming in. Still pending transaction for our meetup. She hasn't gotten back to me yet. I'm not going to reach out. If she blows me off, oh well. I'll probably just not speak to her again and call her out on it. I did however get her a plus one for this event tomorrow night. Just incase she decides to come out, I can meet with her than go to the event of just have her meet there.


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