I have know this girl for about a year, and we have been though a lot of adventures together though camping/sex/traveling and experiences in general.

She is that girl that doesn't want a relationship because she believes that they are selfish. Which i like because i can mess around with other girls also.

Tonight we had been at a bon-fire for a good few hours cuddling in a blanket. I made sure to drive. Ready to either go to my house, or drop her off. We got in the car, and she had a long day at work so she was tired. Normally in these kinds of situations, she wants to go home at first, then i talk to her a bit, and we end up going to my house.

1. First Question is: After this^^ would you guys say it's alright if i push a little more for coming over to my house or should i have dropped it after she wasn't into the idea the first time? I know it's worked in the past, but i also don't know if it would kill attraction if i always do it

It normally works because i am above average with my speaking. This time was different, she was close to coming over but then as i was talking to her, she said --Not in a bad way-- but that i was manipulative. She didn't end up coming over.

I think she sincerely thinks that because i normally talk her into it, and i'm thinking she doesn't like the idea of me being able to do that every time.

2. My second question is: How would you respond to a statement like that? I would love to hear some advice on it now, because i feel like she may bring that up again sometime.

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1. The way you're forming this question makes it look like you're constantly having to convince her to give you sex.
Anyway, any action is contrasted by the man behind it. If she's your only option, and she picks up on that, then yes, pushing will come across as needy and start repelling her away.
On the other hand, if you're a cool high value guy, pushing will either or not work, but it won't change her opinion of you in a bad way. Because she already knows you're the real thing.
However if this is happening a lot you may consider why it's happening. Is the sex good (for her)? is there a connection? etc.

2. Of-course I am.
2. It's called being "persuasive"
2. Yeah, I'm a horrible person.
2. Oh wow, you finally caught up on that.

Personally I just playfully deflect this kind of accusations. Or playfully acknowledge them. Or use sarcasm. Either way the message sent is somewhere in between. As in, I may, or may not be doing what it is you're accusing me of. Which is true.

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You're leaving out how exactly you pushed it. To be called manipulative it implies you were guilting her. There is a difference between being pushy and manipulative, so if maniplulative was the word used, you gotta say how you approached pushing it.

Zeru,

You've known this girl for too long to still be worrying about such petty details. It may just be time to let the girl go and move on completely to something else to help strengthen your game. I'm sure she's attractive, cool, and fun to be around but sometimes you have to let a decent one loose just to better yourself. It'll teach you to stop stressing some of the nonsense that you do.

I know you read the "Act Like A Man, Think Like A Woman" post I did in the lounge section. Now all you have to do is apply it.

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