By "something out of it" do you mean sex or a commitment or ?

I've gone out with guys several times and not wanted anything but company, flirting, and conversation. Where it goes from there is up to where it goes, you know? Help me out here and get a bit more specific about what you mean

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Hey.....

Been back in the game for a few weeks now (hence my more regular posting), and I'm getting to the stage where I need to move a bit forward really.

I only know C&F, and as I have mentioned, i'm getting stuck with the 9's and 10's. I was wondering if you had any thoughts as to methods/tips/books that would be of help to me.

My main area i'm focusing on is my Body Language, as other posters have mentioned that this could be an issue, but I have never really considered it until now.

Also, this forum rules, has been very good to me since I started (quite a while back)

Zip:

What about men and body hair?

In fitness and bodybuilding circles, it's really common for men to shave legs, chest, etc.. and women expect it. What about 'normal' girls.
I had a (non-bodybuilder, lol) girl bust my balls because I shaved my legs once..

Are there body parts that men SHOULD and should NOT trim/shave?

thank you guys for the questions. other things have been keeping me from working on your answers like I wanted to today. I'll get to what I can tonight, and the rest will come ASAP.

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Dude,

This is the most basic of the basics, which isn't a slight to your question, just a reason why there are five million answers to this question. Most methodologies are out there, created as an expounded answer on your very question.

What's you style? Try some canned material, opinion openers, try Hi with the proper body language and a sexual frame, try a situationally relevant C & F line, try pickup 101's "movie moment", dude... try everything!

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Well, girls will be girls. boys will be boys. After a certain period in a relationship, people think they have it under control. Things are going so well, we EXPECT something to go wrong. Girls get jealous, protective, clingy, desperate, and I won't even go into what guys get like. Without the specifics of your advise and her situations.. I can't give you more than that.

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Well that's more than my fingers will be willing to post here. Especially since I'm now getting spoiled by listening to some of the podcasts you've recommended. But do you have any suggestions as to what she can read or listen to? I see her like a little sis, and I want the best for her. She's seeing her old boyfriend again, but my other girl friend and I fear that this may be a desperation move on her part and possibly on his as well. Her ex-boyfriend is a decent guy but he's got no game. He's like the confused Nice Guy type. He wants to be the cool, suave guy, but it comes off very awkward and I often wanna help him out cause it makes me cringe, but since he's seeing my friend it's too weird. I think he comes back to her to re-boost his ego. But let me give u this piece of background info on her. I would always tell her that she shouldn't make her dating exclusive to a guy she has only been dating a few days Very odd, don't you think? Well, I finally got her to stop doing this, or at least she said that she's not gonna do it. Who knows maybe she'll marry that ex and they'll live happily ever after. Thanks. You're a doll for whatever advice u can give.

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Hey zip! How are you darling?

wow such a drama went on while i was away! im glad its over!

Well i have a quicky here!

I have been getting girls numbers left and right, but it seems that i dont find to go out with all of them! What is this going to do to the girl as far as why hasnt this guy asked me to hang out yet?


I do keep contact with them, either online or with phone but times may come that its been 2-3 weeks and i havent had a chance to hang out with a girl! Its just not my fualt! This iss what happens when you go full times school and work during weekdays!

For ex: if a girl keeps asking to hang out but i dont got the time and i have aleady told her about the school/work! What else do you sugest i should do besides cutting down from school and work LOL thats not possibel lol!:lol:

appreciate the input hun!

nope. girls will only let their hands linger if they mean it. holding hands for a girl is still a step that makes us hickup a bit in the stomach. I mean, you said the touch was kinda sensual, which is what the vibe between you was at that point... HUGE IOI... go for it!

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There isn't a specific formula in how to get me... that's how you get me.

Guys who pick me up are generally ballsy. They approach me, knock me out of my routine in some way that I don't even notice what is going on (which is fucking near impossible, mind you.) Yes, it's more of a natural approach, just because I know all the routines and canned material. I can tell in an instant if you are running game on me, and it clouds my experience with men, just because it's my job to teach this stuff. However, a guy could come up to me with an opinion opener, and if he has the right vibe where I just have all my attraction switches pop at one instance... I'll come right back at him with "do you floss or brush first" without a care in the world.

I don't really care what the guy's style is... as long as he has one. Right now, I have a thing for really well put together gothy posh guys. Eyeliner and all. Two weeks ago, it was all about the young professional gone wild look. It really doesn't matter as long as the guy picks his own style, grooms himself well, and the style is congruent with who he is.

The guy has to approach me from a non-offensive angle. Not from behind and not directly from the side. The 45 degree angle is good.

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The two guys I was talking about who are masters of body language aren't my clients... they are my two wings in NYC. They have studied body language form a series of classes and books. Here's a good list of assorted stuff:

1.) The Definitive Book of Body Language by Barbara and Allan Pease
2.) Unmasking the Face by Paul Ekman (facial expressions)
3.) body-language-summary-female-sex-signals-vt12425.html
4.) thebodylanguageproject.com has a fantastic ebook available. I think you can still get a free copy here if you write a review... I believe there is a sticky or announcement in the pua lounge

As far as eye contact when opening... I personally pattern the person, see if the man is old school or a bit more modern.
1.) If he's old school, I will look at him, break eye contact by looking down, then shortly regain eye contact and hold it until he smiles at me
2.) If he's more modern, I will look at him until I have his eye contact and I won't look away.

As a man, you can play around with what works best for you. Honestly, I like a guy who can keep direct eye contact and make me squirm a bit. However, if I feel like he's STARING at me, I'll run away and send a guy over there. It's about how you come across. I've also been pretty attracted to the break away/regain game. You make eye contact and break it, shortly look back.. make eye contact, break it... look back, make EC, smile... game on. That was your opener.

Hypnotica is the father of inner game, as far as I'm concerned. His self actualization visualizations have helped me shape the frame I have today, which came in handy quite recently to keep me sane.

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I imagine a guy approaching you through your eyes. It's actually kinda
like the Terminator. Voice tone readings on the side. A circle scans the
face for any sweat or signs of lying... A grid scans down his clothing to
see how well he's dressed.

1.) the first thing he says to me will immediately transport me back to the emotional state I experienced when I met him. He'll either start with an "inside" topic that we shared, an anchored word, or his nickname for me he created because of something retarded I did that night.
2.) some banter, some lighthearted insults, some joking, making sure that the wittiness wasn't just because of those jager shots I bought him
3.) sincere rapport flash: all this is is a momentary compliment, or a momentary "serious" moment where he transports me back to the emotional state I was in when we got into comfort building the night I met him.
4.) either plans to meet up or a quick dismissal.

Keep. It. Casual. but honest and revealing. You dig?

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These are some great stuff zip! but i though it was best not to nickname a girl! They might get their bitch shield back up and even get pissed off in some cases!
Lets say if you didnt nickname or have an inside thing with the girl what would you say first when you give her a ring then?

Nicknaming is fine to anchor emotional states on, in my opinion, and in the opinion of the guys at the pickup podcast. Listen to their toolbox episode on opening. However, I can see where some experts think that nicknaming a girl could activate a bitch shield... if you call her "fatty" or "crater face" or something

If you don't have an inside thing with a girl that you are calling up, I'd then assume you took a direct approach the night before. Continue with the direct approach. Hi ____, it's ____. When are we getting together? Or whatever is congruent with your direct game.

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